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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:17 pm

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A DL AMS or CDG flight would likely arrive around mid afternoon and leave around 5 pm (using surrounding markets such as CVG, IND, RDU as a benchmark), so it shouldn't have a problem being accommodated, but that would have to be it until the new IAB opens. Everything else you said is spot on. BNA is out of space, and it is about 3-4 years behind in capital improvement projects.


I think that works in theory. Right now, the BA flight arrives at 5 PM CT into A concourse for deplaning and then gets towed over to B for boarding for a 8:30 PM departure. As you pointed out, all DL flights to CDG from CVG, IND and RDU land earlier in the day. Let's assume that you have to do the same "Arrival at A. Board at B" routine since customs is at A. DL already is based in B which works for them, especially for the Sly Club, but I'd be concerned of timing it so that you don't have two different 300 seat boardings in the same spot at the end of B. And even if that worked in theory, I could see a flight delay throw all of that into a major logistical mess.

Delta is also flying 767-300s in those markets which are readily available but aren't the "new sexy" like the 787 flying on the LHR route. But I doubt DL has many of the new A350s to put on a route like this (probably spoken for elsewhere).


It would have to be around those times as any later would conflict with BA. But also remember that barring a delay, they’d never be at B at the same time as DL would leave just as BA is arriving at A. BNA just can’t process multiple widebodies right now until the IAB is done.

Also, DL would use a 767 on the route as anything else would be too big capacity wise. Unfortunately, the 767’s have the old J seats so it may not be as competitive as BA (which is retrofitting their wide body J hard product within the next few years) until DL replaces their 767’s.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:07 pm

We’ll see if DL gets use of those 763 parking lines on gates B5 and B7. The gate areas on Concourse B struggle occupying passengers for even a 757 flight.
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:23 pm

Fargo wrote:
sevenfeet wrote:
Fargo wrote:
A DL AMS or CDG flight would likely arrive around mid afternoon and leave around 5 pm (using surrounding markets such as CVG, IND, RDU as a benchmark), so it shouldn't have a problem being accommodated, but that would have to be it until the new IAB opens. Everything else you said is spot on. BNA is out of space, and it is about 3-4 years behind in capital improvement projects.


I think that works in theory. Right now, the BA flight arrives at 5 PM CT into A concourse for deplaning and then gets towed over to B for boarding for a 8:30 PM departure. As you pointed out, all DL flights to CDG from CVG, IND and RDU land earlier in the day. Let's assume that you have to do the same "Arrival at A. Board at B" routine since customs is at A. DL already is based in B which works for them, especially for the Sly Club, but I'd be concerned of timing it so that you don't have two different 300 seat boardings in the same spot at the end of B. And even if that worked in theory, I could see a flight delay throw all of that into a major logistical mess.

Delta is also flying 767-300s in those markets which are readily available but aren't the "new sexy" like the 787 flying on the LHR route. But I doubt DL has many of the new A350s to put on a route like this (probably spoken for elsewhere).


It would have to be around those times as any later would conflict with BA. But also remember that barring a delay, they’d never be at B at the same time as DL would leave just as BA is arriving at A. BNA just can’t process multiple widebodies right now until the IAB is done.

Also, DL would use a 767 on the route as anything else would be too big capacity wise. Unfortunately, the 767’s have the old J seats so it may not be as competitive as BA (which is retrofitting their wide body J hard product within the next few years) until DL replaces their 767’s.



I thought DL was in the process of refurbishing all 767 J seats??
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:56 pm

Thinking outside the box a bit here, but would MNAA be interested in making JWN an option for some of the ULCC’s to free up gate space an BNA??

Seems like the type of situation G4 would take advantage of similar to how they operate in the Tampa/St. Pete, Charlotte/Concord, and Ft. Myers/Punta Gorda markets.

I say this with complete ignorance as to JWN’s capabilities or facilities outside of what’s on Wikipedia ;)
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:00 pm

dafunk10 wrote:
Thinking outside the box a bit here, but would MNAA be interested in making JWN an option for some of the ULCC’s to free up gate space an BNA??

Seems like the type of situation G4 would take advantage of similar to how they operate in the Tampa/St. Pete, Charlotte/Concord, and Ft. Myers/Punta Gorda markets.

I say this with complete ignorance as to JWN’s capabilities or facilities outside of what’s on Wikipedia ;)


JWN has no passenger processing facilities, or space to create that. Only real option would be to do something similar to Austin (South) Terminal 2 over by GA or cargo but that also probably doesn't make sense.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:25 pm

dafunk10 wrote:
Fargo wrote:
sevenfeet wrote:

I think that works in theory. Right now, the BA flight arrives at 5 PM CT into A concourse for deplaning and then gets towed over to B for boarding for a 8:30 PM departure. As you pointed out, all DL flights to CDG from CVG, IND and RDU land earlier in the day. Let's assume that you have to do the same "Arrival at A. Board at B" routine since customs is at A. DL already is based in B which works for them, especially for the Sly Club, but I'd be concerned of timing it so that you don't have two different 300 seat boardings in the same spot at the end of B. And even if that worked in theory, I could see a flight delay throw all of that into a major logistical mess.

Delta is also flying 767-300s in those markets which are readily available but aren't the "new sexy" like the 787 flying on the LHR route. But I doubt DL has many of the new A350s to put on a route like this (probably spoken for elsewhere).


It would have to be around those times as any later would conflict with BA. But also remember that barring a delay, they’d never be at B at the same time as DL would leave just as BA is arriving at A. BNA just can’t process multiple widebodies right now until the IAB is done.

Also, DL would use a 767 on the route as anything else would be too big capacity wise. Unfortunately, the 767’s have the old J seats so it may not be as competitive as BA (which is retrofitting their wide body J hard product within the next few years) until DL replaces their 767’s.



I thought DL was in the process of refurbishing all 767 J seats??


Delta has only announced that they are refurbishing their 767-400s. The 767-300ERs will likely keep their current seats until the planes are retired
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:03 pm

TangoCharlie123 wrote:
dafunk10 wrote:
Fargo wrote:

It would have to be around those times as any later would conflict with BA. But also remember that barring a delay, they’d never be at B at the same time as DL would leave just as BA is arriving at A. BNA just can’t process multiple widebodies right now until the IAB is done.

Also, DL would use a 767 on the route as anything else would be too big capacity wise. Unfortunately, the 767’s have the old J seats so it may not be as competitive as BA (which is retrofitting their wide body J hard product within the next few years) until DL replaces their 767’s.



I thought DL was in the process of refurbishing all 767 J seats??


Delta has only announced that they are refurbishing their 767-400s. The 767-300ERs will likely keep their current seats until the planes are retired


And since who knows when that will be, BA will likely have a nicer product for the foreseeable future.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:31 am

I've only been down on A once recently, to catch the BA flight and I was extremely late and didn't pay much attention. Isn't there a second gate for international arrivals? If so can it handle a widebody, or is the bigger issue the FIS temporary facility?
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:09 pm

EvanWSFO wrote:
I've only been down on A once recently, to catch the BA flight and I was extremely late and didn't pay much attention. Isn't there a second gate for international arrivals? If so can it handle a widebody, or is the bigger issue the FIS temporary facility?


There are two boarding bridges at the FIS, but they are attached and lead to the same corridor. From my observation, I do not believe there is room for two widebodies at once, only one widebody and one narrowbody.

The good news is the new facility will (from what I've heard) be able to accommodate up to 3 77W's at the same time, so this won't be an issue going forward.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:23 pm

FY'19 closed: https://www.flynashville.com/news-and-m ... mbers.aspx

    Topped 17 million total annual passengers
    Increased passengers in a single year by more than 2 million
    Increased annual passengers by 15 percent
    Set passenger records for the sixth consecutive year
    Set monthly passenger total record for June

More specifically, in FY19 (July 1, 2018 to June 30, 2019), 17,171,821 passengers traveled into and out of BNA, an increase of more than 2.2 million passengers over last year’s record, and representing an unprecedented 15 percent rate of annual growth.

June 2019 set a record as the single busiest month in BNA history, with 1,676,386 passengers, some 13,000 more than the previous record set in May 2019.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:35 pm

To compare:

June 2018 - 1,460,525
June 2019 - 1,676,386
+215,861 year over year for June in absolute numbers
+14.8% year over year for June on a percentage basis
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:48 pm

Everyone talks about Austin’s growth... but for some reason, you don’t hear too much about BNA. The airlines definitely like those numbers.
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:21 pm

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Everyone talks about Austin’s growth... but for some reason, you don’t hear too much about BNA. The airlines definitely like those numbers.


Austin hasn't published FY2019 numbers yet, but their May numbers are worthwhile to be compared to BNA.


AUSTIN:
May 2019: http://www.austintexas.gov/news/may-201 ... ergstrom-0

    Total passenger traffic for May 2019 was 1,543,108 up 9.1% compared to May 2018
    May 2019 enplanements totaled 785,799, up 9.3%
    Passenger Activity: Total passenger traffic for January – May 2019 was 6,660,334, up 9.2%, compared to January – May 2018.
    January – May 2019 enplanements totaled 3,337,311, up 9.4%

NASHVILLE
May 2019: https://www.flynashville.com/about/Airp ... onStat.pdf
- BNA uses July-June fiscal years, so manually calculated comparable January - May stats to align with Austin

    Total passenger traffic for May 2019 was 1,663,780 up 17.3% compared to May 2018
    May 2019 enplanements totaled 844,443, up 16.8%
    Passenger Activity: Total passenger traffic for January - May 2019 was 7,025,805, up 15.8%, compared to January - May 2018
    January - May 2019 enplanements totaled 3,517,440, up 15.8%
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:35 pm

I have to wonder how much of the growth is being driven by WN compared to the other airlines. I worry if the MAX groundings last much longer, it will affect the growth here.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:41 pm

I wish BNA would release more airline specific volume like AUS does
 
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:06 pm

dafunk10 - "I wish BNA would release more airline specific volume like AUS does"

Fargo - "I have to wonder how much of the growth is being driven by WN compared to the other airlines. I worry if the MAX groundings last much longer, it will affect the growth here."
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:32 pm

Fargo wrote:
I have to wonder how much of the growth is being driven by WN compared to the other airlines. I worry if the MAX groundings last much longer, it will affect the growth here.


I assume the growth stays stagnant until the MAX returns. It's only 34 of 754 (latest numbers I found) aircraft, but it does have a trickle down effect across their system. Once back online and with deliveries starting back up, I think they will grow slowly, perhaps more so when D opens. It might actually be good for them to catch their breath at BNA and let the terminal expansion continue.
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:30 pm

https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/n ... e=facebook Could we see some Prime Air birds soon?
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:21 pm

southwest1675 wrote:
https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2019/07/19/documents-amazon-plans-new-nashville-facility-near.html?ana=TRUEANTHEMFB_NA&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+New+Content+%28Feed%29&utm_content=5d31b35af1c3e2000114f777&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook Could we see some Prime Air birds soon?


Would you mind giving a summary or linking an article that isn’t behind a paywall?
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:29 pm

The lease was not "on airport"...so that by itself would indicate no Prime birds. The more over-arching reason however...Amazon Prime hub at CVG is 4 hours away by truck; Amazon can also truck via UPS who's hub is < 3 hours at SDF. Never say never...but not likely Amazon Prime birds will be landing at BNA any time soon
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:08 pm

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The lease was not "on airport"...so that by itself would indicate no Prime birds. The more over-arching reason however...Amazon Prime hub at CVG is 4 hours away by truck; Amazon can also truck via UPS who's hub is < 3 hours at SDF. Never say never...but not likely Amazon Prime birds will be landing at BNA any time soon



Is that what your expert opinion would lead you to believe?
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:28 pm

Bluegrass60 wrote:
The lease was not "on airport"...so that by itself would indicate no Prime birds. The more over-arching reason however...Amazon Prime hub at CVG is 4 hours away by truck; Amazon can also truck via UPS who's hub is < 3 hours at SDF. Never say never...but not likely Amazon Prime birds will be landing at BNA any time soon



Don't ever underestimate Amazon's logistics ideas and capabilities. I don't think they will make a hub out of BNA, but I could see one or two planes flying in and out of here. Amazon is building a huge office downtown and adding 5000 jobs which will mostly be to support East Coast operations. They also have a huge sorting/distribution center at the airport, plus Prime Now warehouses.

Nashville is also in a prime location to grasp the southeast via road.
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:50 pm

Like I said....never say never...but not very likely. Amazon has lots of other locations in the Southeast: https://www.amazon.jobs/en/locations/?& ... rica&cache

The Eastern Ops Center will handle customer fulfillment, transportation, supply chain, and other similar activities; who knows maybe Prime Air HQ will be established there
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:51 pm

https://thepointsguy.com/news/air-franc ... expansion/

Air France-KLM Senior VP said they are looking at expanding into new Delta focus cities.
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:21 pm

We’ll get some Amazon birds because of all our connecting passengers.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:37 pm

Aw come on...everyone knows Nashville O&D fills all those seats...

No doubt Amazon Prime will fly multiple times between BNA and Amazon's hubs at CVG and Ft. Worth Alliance because it just makes sense.....
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:40 pm

TangoCharlie123 wrote:
https://thepointsguy.com/news/air-france-klm-eye-delta-focus-cities-for-u-s-expansion/

Air France-KLM Senior VP said they are looking at expanding into new Delta focus cities.


I’m sure a flight to either CDG or AMS would be on a DL 767. AF and KL birds are too big for here right now.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:44 pm

Bluegrass60 wrote:
Aw come on...everyone knows Nashville O&D fills all those seats...

No doubt Amazon Prime will fly multiple times between BNA and Amazon's hubs at CVG and Ft. Worth Alliance because it just makes sense.....


And you sit up I-65 just sounding bitter all the time...

So what's good?
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:06 am

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Aw come on...everyone knows Nashville O&D fills all those seats...

No doubt Amazon Prime will fly multiple times between BNA and Amazon's hubs at CVG and Ft. Worth Alliance because it just makes sense.....


So exactly what is wrong with Prime operating BNA as a spoke to a larger destination? Nothing. Your bitterness clouds every single comment you make.
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:25 pm

Dudes....I ain't bitter. You folks live in delusion world
 
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:42 pm

FWIW....Nashville has enjoyed spectacular growth the past 7-8 years. Economic growth (Amazon, Phillips, Alliance Bernstein, Smile, E&Y, Bridgestone, Mitsubishi, HCA, etc). Population growth of @300,000. BNA has doubled number of passengers; BNA Vision Phase 1 is under construction; Phase 2 deep in planning stage. WN has increased operations by 37%. BA introduced a successfull NS to LHR; DL named BNA a Focus city. ULCC's continue to arrive and add destinations and low fares. UA and AA upgauge and add frequencies Tourism has grown by 5M. CMA Fest, Bonaroo, NFL Draft, SEC Basketball, Music City Bowl, SEC Football Media Day maybe the Grammys. Lots of new hotels, apartments, condos, office buildings as evidenced by all the tower cranes. (5th & Broadway, Nashville Yards among the biggest). Some say Nashville growth trajectory is similar to Atlanta's in the 60-70's. Congratulations!

I simply state that 25% or more of BNA traffic is connecting (frick..prob 70% of ATL traffic is connecting) and suggest Amazon Prime birds are not likely because of BNA proximity to CVG and SDF (and yes Amazon still uses UPS; Amazon no longer uses Fedex).....and I am bitter?
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:25 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/21/us/south ... index.html

Time for a ramp tower? We’ve been saying this was going to happen for at least two years now.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:46 pm

Bluegrass60 wrote:
FWIW....Nashville has enjoyed spectacular growth the past 7-8 years. Economic growth (Amazon, Phillips, Alliance Bernstein, Smile, E&Y, Bridgestone, Mitsubishi, HCA, etc). Population growth of @300,000. BNA has doubled number of passengers; BNA Vision Phase 1 is under construction; Phase 2 deep in planning stage. WN has increased operations by 37%. BA introduced a successfull NS to LHR; DL named BNA a Focus city. ULCC's continue to arrive and add destinations and low fares. UA and AA upgauge and add frequencies Tourism has grown by 5M. CMA Fest, Bonaroo, NFL Draft, SEC Basketball, Music City Bowl, SEC Football Media Day maybe the Grammys. Lots of new hotels, apartments, condos, office buildings as evidenced by all the tower cranes. (5th & Broadway, Nashville Yards among the biggest). Some say Nashville growth trajectory is similar to Atlanta's in the 60-70's. Congratulations!

I simply state that 25% or more of BNA traffic is connecting (frick..prob 70% of ATL traffic is connecting) and suggest Amazon Prime birds are not likely because of BNA proximity to CVG and SDF (and yes Amazon still uses UPS; Amazon no longer uses Fedex).....and I am bitter?


Amazon to CVG no but there could be other cities that see prime service as they grow other hubs. Tampa or Dallas or to the Rockford hub or any other cities are a possibility. Time will tell as they get a bigger fleet.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:29 pm

runner13 wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/21/us/southwest-collision-wing-clipped/index.html

Time for a ramp tower? We’ve been saying this was going to happen for at least two years now.


From what I've heard, the ramp tower will be up sometime next year. Judging the fact it happened near gates C13/C14 at night, I'm gonna assume these were new hires. (WN typically puts new hire ramp agents on those gates.)
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Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:54 pm

First time poster, long-time reader, and retired AA 777 captain.

I flew into BNA for the first time in 20 years last weekend. All I can say is WOW! My have the times changed. Nashville has always been a special place to me. I began my airline career with American Eagle as a BNA based FO. Those were surely some good times, and Nashville was truly American's best hub during those days. My granddaughter will be a freshman at Belmont this year, so I flew in to help her with the move. I seriously couldn't believe how busy the airport was. I landed around 7:30pm, and BNA had just about every gate occupied, by every airline. It must have been during a rush, because there were rows of landing lights out in the distance of aircraft coming to land. It brought back a ton of memories to my youth LOL. I had some time to kill as I waited for my ride. I decided to roam through the concourses for the first time in years. I couldn't even walk through most of the airport just because there were so many people. I got a kick seeing that BA 787 at the end of B. I bet it does well. I actually used to non rev on that AA 762 to LGW back in the day. I was glad to see AA's operation looked respectable. There were 5 mainlines, and 2 regionals sitting at their gates. The Admirals Club looked busy as well. I still can't believe all those old AA gates are now used by SWA. Southwest surely struck gold when they expanded in BNA. It's a hot market. One of my long time friends is a WN captain. He's been telling me SWA is very close on setting up BNA as a crew base. He plans to be one of the first to bid for it. He also said 200 daily departures is what WN is shooting for in the next 3-4 years. When I made it past gates C20 and C18, I looked out to where my old stomping grounds were. Concourse D. It's completely gone with a new steel structure.It's just mind blowing on how much the airport has grown. Exciting times for BNA! I got down to baggage claim, and it was more crowded than it ever was during the hub days. I think just about every claim had bags on it. Those folks at SWA BSO have their hands full. When I got outside, I was also shocked to see all the more construction, and parking garage. I honestly had no idea all this was going on. My granddaughter also told me the carpet has become popular on social media. That gave me a good chuckle. I remember when the concourses were tile with green carpet. I'm looking forward to seeing BNA's expansion completed. The airport is truly better than ever, and there was nothing but good days ahead for it. I'm no airline expert, but I bet Nashville would have made a better hub for AA, than boring CLT.
 
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:22 am

capt505 wrote:
First time poster, long-time reader, and retired AA 777 captain.

I flew into BNA for the first time in 20 years last weekend. All I can say is WOW! My have the times changed. Nashville has always been a special place to me. I began my airline career with American Eagle as a BNA based FO. Those were surely some good times, and Nashville was truly American's best hub during those days. My granddaughter will be a freshman at Belmont this year, so I flew in to help her with the move. I seriously couldn't believe how busy the airport was. I landed around 7:30pm, and BNA had just about every gate occupied, by every airline. It must have been during a rush, because there were rows of landing lights out in the distance of aircraft coming to land. It brought back a ton of memories to my youth LOL. I had some time to kill as I waited for my ride. I decided to roam through the concourses for the first time in years. I couldn't even walk through most of the airport just because there were so many people. I got a kick seeing that BA 787 at the end of B. I bet it does well. I actually used to non rev on that AA 762 to LGW back in the day. I was glad to see AA's operation looked respectable. There were 5 mainlines, and 2 regionals sitting at their gates. The Admirals Club looked busy as well. I still can't believe all those old AA gates are now used by SWA. Southwest surely struck gold when they expanded in BNA. It's a hot market. One of my long time friends is a WN captain. He's been telling me SWA is very close on setting up BNA as a crew base. He plans to be one of the first to bid for it. He also said 200 daily departures is what WN is shooting for in the next 3-4 years. When I made it past gates C20 and C18, I looked out to where my old stomping grounds were. Concourse D. It's completely gone with a new steel structure.It's just mind blowing on how much the airport has grown. Exciting times for BNA! I got down to baggage claim, and it was more crowded than it ever was during the hub days. I think just about every claim had bags on it. Those folks at SWA BSO have their hands full. When I got outside, I was also shocked to see all the more construction, and parking garage. I honestly had no idea all this was going on. My granddaughter also told me the carpet has become popular on social media. That gave me a good chuckle. I remember when the concourses were tile with green carpet. I'm looking forward to seeing BNA's expansion completed. The airport is truly better than ever, and there was nothing but good days ahead for it. I'm no airline expert, but I bet Nashville would have made a better hub for AA, than boring CLT.


Thanks for the insight! Indeed exciting times are ahead. Like I said in my WN DEN growth thread, WN should absolutely make BNA on par with MDW, BWI, DEN, LAS, etc at over 200 flights with a pilot/crew base and maybe even a maintenance hangar further down the road (though I’m not sure where they’d put that). Nashville and the SE as a whole is growing and it’s likely only going to continue. WN lacks a 200+ flight station in the SE and BNA is the only logical place to do it as ATL and Florida are too competitive.

I’m also interested to see what DL does here with a a club expansion and a possible TATL flight on the horizon.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:13 am

Hey, just wondering if any of you guys know what's going on with UA using a 787-10 on a scheduled flight to BNA from EWR today. Is my flightradar24 glitching out or something? Lol
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:35 am

moop wrote:
Hey, just wondering if any of you guys know what's going on with UA using a 787-10 on a scheduled flight to BNA from EWR today. Is my flightradar24 glitching out or something? Lol


Do you have a flight number? I am not seeing it? Was it a diversion?
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:35 am

That would be a glitch. UA295 SFO to EWR is a 787-10. Flightaware/flightrader routinely mess up continuation flights like that. I believe the EWR to BNA leg of UA295 is a 737-9
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:19 am

moop wrote:
Hey, just wondering if any of you guys know what's going on with UA using a 787-10 on a scheduled flight to BNA from EWR today. Is my flightradar24 glitching out or something? Lol


In another thread there's conversation of NYC having a lot of WX diversions tonight. Would they divert so far from EWR?
I have been on this site 15 years. A unrecoverable email account led me to starting over. Those of you who call me a rookie, you may stop ok?
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:19 am

Ah ok, yeah UA295 was a 787-10 from SFO-EWR
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:28 am

tys777 wrote:
That would be a glitch. UA295 SFO to EWR is a 787-10. Flightaware/flightrader routinely mess up continuation flights like that. I believe the EWR to BNA leg of UA295 is a 737-9


Ship 3539 (N77539 B738) flew ONT-SFO
8008 (N16008 B78X) had SFO-EWR
3445 (N73445 B739) navigated EWR-BNA

SKED  ONT  ORIG    600A              GTD  202 SHIP 3539
      SFO   728A   815A     GTA   73 GTD   82 SHIP 8008
      EWR   445P   600P     GTA C125 GTD  C92 SHIP 3445
      BNA   728P  TERM      GTA   A4
     
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:27 am

WN’s EWR-BNA route will be cut in Nov.....sounds like bad long term news for the MAX, and will continue to stifle WN’s growth plans at BNA in 2019

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/southwe ... nding.html

At this point I wonder if an airline like DL, who has designated BNA as a focus city and doesn’t have the MAX baggage, could get creative and take advantage with their direct flights/operations here....they certainly don’t appear to be in any hurry to add destinations
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:11 pm

WN is not just dropping the EWR route....They are pulling out of EWR all together and consolidating ops at LGA.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:10 pm

dafunk10 wrote:
WN’s EWR-BNA route will be cut in Nov.....sounds like bad long term news for the MAX, and will continue to stifle WN’s growth plans at BNA in 2019

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/southwe ... nding.html

At this point I wonder if an airline like DL, who has designated BNA as a focus city and doesn’t have the MAX baggage, could get creative and take advantage with their direct flights/operations here....they certainly don’t appear to be in any hurry to add destinations


Has Delta added any routes or upgauged any routes since naming Nashville a focus city?
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:16 pm

TangoCharlie123 wrote:
dafunk10 wrote:
WN’s EWR-BNA route will be cut in Nov.....sounds like bad long term news for the MAX, and will continue to stifle WN’s growth plans at BNA in 2019

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/southwe ... nding.html

At this point I wonder if an airline like DL, who has designated BNA as a focus city and doesn’t have the MAX baggage, could get creative and take advantage with their direct flights/operations here....they certainly don’t appear to be in any hurry to add destinations


Has Delta added any routes or upgauged any routes since naming Nashville a focus city?


No, and other than TATL and maybe AUS, I don’t think they will. Once this MAX issue gets resolved, WN will resume growing BNA and it will be hard for DL to launch p2p routes.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:17 pm

dafunk10 wrote:
WN’s EWR-BNA route will be cut in Nov.....sounds like bad long term news for the MAX, and will continue to stifle WN’s growth plans at BNA in 2019

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/southwe ... nding.html

At this point I wonder if an airline like DL, who has designated BNA as a focus city and doesn’t have the MAX baggage, could get creative and take advantage with their direct flights/operations here....they certainly don’t appear to be in any hurry to add destinations


The EWR loss is not a big deal, it is an operational disaster and they’ll deploy the capacity elsewhere. WN will resume growth here as soon as the MAX fiasco is resolved.
 
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:19 pm

Fargo wrote:
TangoCharlie123 wrote:
dafunk10 wrote:
WN’s EWR-BNA route will be cut in Nov.....sounds like bad long term news for the MAX, and will continue to stifle WN’s growth plans at BNA in 2019

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/southwe ... nding.html

At this point I wonder if an airline like DL, who has designated BNA as a focus city and doesn’t have the MAX baggage, could get creative and take advantage with their direct flights/operations here....they certainly don’t appear to be in any hurry to add destinations


Has Delta added any routes or upgauged any routes since naming Nashville a focus city?


No, and other than TATL and maybe AUS, I don’t think they will. Once this MAX issue gets resolved, WN will resume growing BNA and it will be hard for DL to launch p2p routes.


BNA-IND might be a possible add from them as well.
Herb Kelleher 1931-2019
 
Fargo
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Re: Nashville Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:23 pm

southwest1675 wrote:
Fargo wrote:
TangoCharlie123 wrote:

Has Delta added any routes or upgauged any routes since naming Nashville a focus city?


No, and other than TATL and maybe AUS, I don’t think they will. Once this MAX issue gets resolved, WN will resume growing BNA and it will be hard for DL to launch p2p routes.


BNA-IND might be a possible add from them as well.


I doubt it, it’s too short of a flight with no feed on either end. I expect WN to shift IND-ATL to BNA at some point.

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