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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:47 am

I'm surprised Air Peace didn't get first place.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:49 am

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There is a short headline on CAPA (I can't read the whole article) that Air Senegal is going to get a 2nd A330. Where are they going to use this aircraft? Is there any demand between Dakar and any city other than Paris?
How is their Paris flight doing? Any other news on Air Senegal?

How many A330neo aircraft have they ordered?
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:58 pm

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I'm surprised Air Peace didn't get first place.


Keep in mind that Air Peace has had THREE serious incidents/accidents in the last 6 months alone, and have been accused by the Nigerian Accident Investigation Bureau of both “failing to report” and “actively concealing” these incidents. They have also been accused of “overwriting the Cockpit Voice Recorder” to prevent the AIB from accessing the data as part of their investigations.

https://leadership.ng/2019/06/11/aib-fr ... incidents/
http://saharareporters.com/2019/06/11/a ... %80%93-aib

http://avherald.com/h?article=4c985b51&opt=0
http://avherald.com/h?article=4c4d759d&opt=0
http://avherald.com/h?article=4c916624&opt=0

The level of airline responsibility for the various issues may be a matter for debate, but the public perception is what drives awards like this, and that perception is negative as a result.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:01 am

****************************** POLL, PLEASE FREELY GIVE YOUR OPINIONS *******************************

It clearly appears that the West African Aviation Thread has successfully become an essential place for discussing about weekly to daily news about aviation, airlines and airports near to you or your related homecountry/town. That's why you deserve all the respect for contributing proactively and frequently here. Also a big thumb up for all of you (particularly, but in no special order 5NFGS, mapletux, B747-437B, mr02, AF022, Cunard) for providing up to date infos – and precious fact & datas about this region of the continent.
I've learnt a lot more in the past 6 months reading all the comments than during all the trips to Africa.

In order to clarify things, the Central Aviation Thread might be merged with this one. The West African Aviation thread will now include these new countries:

- Cameroon
- Central African Republic (CAR)
- Chad
- Equatorial Guinea
- Gabon
- Republic of Congo
- São Tomé and Príncipe

However, DR of Congo - which was added later - will go to East African Aviation Thread (explanation available there).

So, what do you think?
If you agree mods will be asked to close the Central Aviation Thread and merge these two threads.
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:00 pm

Why not simply rename it West/Central African Aviation?
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:07 pm

B747-437B wrote:
Why not simply rename it West/Central African Aviation?

Yes, it sounds like the best idea overall - thank you for suggesting B747-437 :smile: !
It will be submitted to mods within 2 days!

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AWA is to start ACCRA-LONDON soon according to a recent interview with the Ghana's minister of aviation.

Anyone got anymore info?

So far no news, what about you?

:arrow: A good news for A.net member Soups :

From May 2020, the Turkish national airline will introduce the Airbus A330-300, replacing the Boeing 737-900 with 151 seats on a route between the Turkish city and the [i]political capital of Ghana - ACCRA. The Turkish Airlines A330-300 can accommodate up to 289 passengers in 261 seats Economy class and 28 seats in Business class.[/i]

https://newsaero.info/airlines/turkish- ... ?true=1952

:arrow: Camair-Co (Cameroon) receives a new aircraft, a Boeing 737-500:

The aircraft is owned by the company Taron Aviation. Registered EK73775, it can accommodate up to 108 passengers in Y single configuration.
Camair-Co's active fleet now includes four aircraft, including the MA60 and the Bombardier Q400.


https://newsaero.info/airlines/-camair- ... ?true=1944

So they were nearly going belly up, and now plan to deploy their wings to regional ops?
How is the aviation market in Cameroon?
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:12 am

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soups wrote:
AWA is to start ACCRA-LONDON soon according to a recent interview with the Ghana's minister of aviation.

Anyone got anymore info?



AWA has zero plans to start Accra-London soon. The issue came up because AWA has applied to modify its operating license from "regional" to "worldwide" in order to codeshare with South African Airways and other partners. One of the many potential markets where AWA is seeking designation in order to codeshare is London. That is all.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:01 pm

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B747-437B wrote:
Why not simply rename it West/Central African Aviation?


From May 2020, the Turkish national airline will introduce the Airbus A330-300, replacing the Boeing 737-900 with 151 seats on a route between the Turkish city and the [i]political capital of Ghana - ACCRA. The Turkish Airlines A330-300 can accommodate up to 289 passengers in 261 seats Economy class and 28 seats in Business class.[/i]


That seems like a big increase in capacity. Where does TK carry passengers ACC passengers from? Are passengers traveling to/from Europe or Asia or the Middle East? I don't think the schedule between ACC and Asia is very good on TK.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:04 pm

Turkish Airlines has already operated A330s to Accra, in 2017: https://www.businessghana.com/site/news ... ccra-Route

They use them, on some others West Africans routes, such as to Banjul / Dakar (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk597) and sometimes to Bamako / Niamey (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk543) and daily to Lagos.

That seems like a big increase in capacity. Where does TK carry passengers ACC passengers from? Are passengers traveling to/from Europe or Asia or the Middle East? I don't think the schedule between ACC and Asia is very good on TK.


Most TK services in Africa are operated in the evening, or during the night, to catch mainly Europe and America (North & South) flights,.To fly between Asia and Accra, there already lots of airlines:

Air France, British Airways, Kenya Airways, Ethiopian Airlines, Egyptair, South African Airways (Singapore Airlines and Air China serves JNB), RwandAir, Emirates, MEA (mostly in Middle East) & KLM. Note that Egyptair operates daylight flights to West Africa, but overnight flights to East Africa

Time travel, from London or Paris to Accra via Istanbul is almost the same time that via Casablanca. Same thing, if you fly from Accra to China via Dubai or Paris, almost the same time. You can also see some people making a connecting at Istanbul to fly between 2 countries in Africa, beacause it's cheaper and sometimes faster, than to fly with an African airline, with 2 or 3 stops.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:23 pm

rukundo wrote:
Turkish Airlines has already operated A330s to Accra, in 2017: https://www.businessghana.com/site/news ... ccra-Route

They use them, on some others West Africans routes, such as to Banjul / Dakar (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk597) and sometimes to Bamako / Niamey (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tk543) and daily to Lagos.

That seems like a big increase in capacity. Where does TK carry passengers ACC passengers from? Are passengers traveling to/from Europe or Asia or the Middle East? I don't think the schedule between ACC and Asia is very good on TK.


Most TK services in Africa are operated in the evening, or during the night, to catch mainly Europe and America (North & South) flights,.To fly between Asia and Accra, there already lots of airlines:

Air France, British Airways, Kenya Airways, Ethiopian Airlines, Egyptair, South African Airways (Singapore Airlines and Air China serves JNB), RwandAir, Emirates, MEA (mostly in Middle East) & KLM. Note that Egyptair operates daylight flights to West Africa, but overnight flights to East Africa

Time travel, from London or Paris to Accra via Istanbul is almost the same time that via Casablanca. Same thing, if you fly from Accra to China via Dubai or Paris, almost the same time. You can also see some people making a connecting at Istanbul to fly between 2 countries in Africa, beacause it's cheaper and sometimes faster, than to fly with an African airline, with 2 or 3 stops.


Hey my Bro', very glad to see you around, :thumbsup:
Thanks a lot for this great analysis - interesting to read your opinions in West Africa aviation. If you can share more infos when you learn about them, it would be awesome hahaha - but no rush !
Also, feel free to discuss about recent news (or on other African related threads), that you posted on your blog, as soon as you provide a link to your blog here - a lot of people or travellers would seriously be interested in :smile:

See ya :wave:
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:53 pm

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mr02 wrote:
Regarding fuel in Nigeria,how come is it so expensive as they have the largest oil deposits and produce the most oil in at Africa.


High fuel price in Nigeria is a fallacy. Lagos is among the cheapest places to lift fuel in West Africa. The problem is the RELIABILITY of fuel availability due to the supply chain issues outlined above.

For example, some current (15JUN19) fuel prices in the region are :

LOS - $0.5964/ltr
ABV - $0.6241/ltr
ACC - $0.6029/ltr
FNA - $1.1531/ltr
ROB - $0.9404/ltr


Eishhhh, so crazy differences!!!!
Apparently, the black market in neighbouring countries is highly profitable.
How can this be stopped?

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:arrow: Air Peace to partner on Johannesburg, Mumbai routes

https://guardian.ng/business-services/a ... ai-routes/
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:03 am

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:arrow: Air Peace to partner on Johannesburg, Mumbai routes

https://guardian.ng/business-services/a ... ai-routes/

Good luck to air peace and I hope they succeed on these routes. Guangzhou will be tough one since Air Madagascar,Egyptair,Ethiopian,Kenyan,soon South African,ME3+TK serve Guangzhou. Also,their configuration is a bit interesting especially the first class seats.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:52 am

It looks like Ethiopian Airlines are in talks with the government of Nigeria to set up an airline. The report in the link below does not say if this will be tied to the Nigeria Air project that was announced and suspended last year or if this will be a new project.

https://punchng.com/ethiopian-airlines- ... nigeria-2/

There is some rumbling about Ethiopian Airlines' share of the market in Nigeria so it would be interesting to say the least if they are involved in setting up a local competitor.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:03 pm

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It looks like Ethiopian Airlines are in talks with the government of Nigeria to set up an airline. The report in the link below does not say if this will be tied to the Nigeria Air project that was announced and suspended last year or if this will be a new project.

https://punchng.com/ethiopian-airlines- ... nigeria-2/

There is some rumbling about Ethiopian Airlines' share of the market in Nigeria so it would be interesting to say the least if they are involved in setting up a local competitor.

What happened with the Nigeria Air project? Didn't they order any A339?
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:21 pm

eastafspot wrote:
B747-437B wrote:
Why not simply rename it West/Central African Aviation?

Yes, it sounds like the best idea overall - thank you for suggesting B747-437 :smile: !
It will be submitted to mods within 2 days!

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soups wrote:
AWA is to start ACCRA-LONDON soon according to a recent interview with the Ghana's minister of aviation.

Anyone got anymore info?

So far no news, what about you?

:arrow: A good news for A.net member Soups :

From May 2020, the Turkish national airline will introduce the Airbus A330-300, replacing the Boeing 737-900 with 151 seats on a route between the Turkish city and the [i]political capital of Ghana - ACCRA. The Turkish Airlines A330-300 can accommodate up to 289 passengers in 261 seats Economy class and 28 seats in Business class.[/i]

https://newsaero.info/airlines/turkish- ... ?true=1952

:arrow: Camair-Co (Cameroon) receives a new aircraft, a Boeing 737-500:

The aircraft is owned by the company Taron Aviation. Registered EK73775, it can accommodate up to 108 passengers in Y single configuration.
Camair-Co's active fleet now includes four aircraft, including the MA60 and the Bombardier Q400.


https://newsaero.info/airlines/-camair- ... ?true=1944

So they were nearly going belly up, and now plan to deploy their wings to regional ops?
How is the aviation market in Cameroon?


Camair's facebook page shows they are entering the DLA-LBV market starting on 16JUL. Rwandair and Camair will both have nonstop service.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:22 am

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What happened with the Nigeria Air project? Didn't they order any A339?


Here is what I remember about it.

- Announcement by Aviation Minister at Farnborough airshow
- Name and proposed livery displayed on renders of B777 and A330
- $300 million to be invested. Nigerian Government to own not more than 5%
- Operations scheduled to start before the end of the year.
- Negotiations supposedly under way with Boeing and Airbus for the proposed fleet.
- Announcement two months later that "the government had taken the tough decision to suspend the project".
- Reason for suspension was alleged to be due to disagreement within the cabinet of the level of government involvement in the operations of the proposed airline..
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:30 pm

Africa World Airlines has reiterated its commitment to operate into any new airport in Ghana on condition that they meet the required international standards.

https://gh-aviation.com/11/390/africa-w ... commercial

The Chief Operations Officer of Africa World Airlines has called upon Governments in the West African region to levy more reasonable charges on air transport in order to boost the number of passengers traveling by air.

https://guardian.ng/saturday-magazine/g ... to-travel/
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:27 pm

South African Airways (SAA) is further strengthening its presence in Ghana by increasing weekly frequencies from 9 to 10 flights between Johannesburg and Accra, and by launching a daily service between Accra and Washington DC, with effect from 5th September 2019. These two additional weekly services to Washington DC provide SAA’s most convenient schedule yet between Ghana and North America, and will also deliver seamless connections for customers from across West Africa. This includes connections to/from Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria; to/from Monrovia in Liberia; and to/from Freetown in Sierra Leone. This important strategic milestone has been made possible through SAA’s growing co-operation and partnership with Africa World Airlines (AWA).

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading ... s/newsroom

Africa World Airlines (AWA) is further strengthening its regional presence in West Africa by increasing flights between Accra and both Freetown and Monrovia to daily services effective from 5th September 2019. The new flights will provide daily seamless connections to/from South African Airways' (SAA) newly announced additional flights to Washington DC via Accra, as well as to Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/africa-w ... 12288-IC1C
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:05 pm

B747-437B wrote:
South African Airways (SAA) is further strengthening its presence in Ghana by increasing weekly frequencies from 9 to 10 flights between Johannesburg and Accra, and by launching a daily service between Accra and Washington DC, with effect from 5th September 2019. These two additional weekly services to Washington DC provide SAA’s most convenient schedule yet between Ghana and North America, and will also deliver seamless connections for customers from across West Africa. This includes connections to/from Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria; to/from Monrovia in Liberia; and to/from Freetown in Sierra Leone. This important strategic milestone has been made possible through SAA’s growing co-operation and partnership with Africa World Airlines (AWA).

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading ... s/newsroom

Africa World Airlines (AWA) is further strengthening its regional presence in West Africa by increasing flights between Accra and both Freetown and Monrovia to daily services effective from 5th September 2019. The new flights will provide daily seamless connections to/from South African Airways' (SAA) newly announced additional flights to Washington DC via Accra, as well as to Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/africa-w ... 12288-IC1C


Very intersting news, as AWA seems reliable!
If SAA could recover swiftly and quickly about its terrible current troubles, maybe a base in West Africa (Ghana probably) could be implemented.
I really thought that this new increased frequency would come for the festive season and not so soon!
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:39 pm

:arrow: Just curious about Air Peace E195 ops, what could potentially be the longest route - London/Cairo/Nairobi/Jo'burg?
Also, when the first one should approx be delivered?

:arrow: Togolese Parliament ratified the "Open Skies" agreement between Togo and the United States:

Togolese government's ambition for 2022 is to make Togo a major airport hub (Capital = Lome, LFW) in West Africa, doubling passenger traffic from 750,000 in 2016 to 1,500,000 in 2022.

For the moment, only one airline connects this African nation to the United States. Ethiopian Airlines makes four weekly rotations between Addis Ababa, Lome and New York Newark.

https://newsaero.info/accordaerienvisa/ ... ?true=2047

How are the infrastructures in Lome? What about Benin next door, home of RwandAir in West Africa, which may become a stop over to the US?

:arrow: Camair-Co (Cameroon) covets Niger and Northern Nigeria from its new Garoua hub:

After resuming Ndjamena in Chad, Libreville in Gabon, Bangui in the Central African Republic, and Cotonou in Benin (August 13), the Cameroonian national company aims to land in Niger and Nigeria. To get there, the airline wants to rely on its new hub Garoua in northern Cameroon.


https://newsaero.info/airlines/camair-c ... ?true=2046
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:33 am

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If SAA could recover swiftly and quickly about its terrible current troubles, maybe a base in West Africa (Ghana probably) could be implemented.


SAA's Long Term Turnaround Strategy is very clear that they need a strong second hub outside of the Southern Africa region to be able to grown their traffic base. South Africa is geographically disadvantaged to take advantage of most intra-African traffic flows, or for longhaul flows from outside the immediate region, thus restricting the airline's growth potential.

As of September, SAA mainline will have more weekly seats from Accra than they do from Durban, and more ASKs from Accra than they do from Cape Town. It is already becoming SAA's biggest operation outside of Johannesburg and the AWA partnership has already created what is effectively a secondary hub. At the risk of repeating myself from the press release, the new Terminal 3 in Accra permits seamless connections and has been a game changer as far as creating a viable option to the European or East African hubs for the traffic flows that can be offered through there.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:58 am

Looks like it was not reported here. I recently visited Pointe-Noire, Congo. TK has officially started PNR 3x weekly with stopover in LBV the same week I was on the ground.
247 IST-LBV-PNR

https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us/n ... s-release/
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:08 am

eastafspot wrote:
B747-437B wrote:
South African Airways (SAA) is further strengthening its presence in Ghana by increasing weekly frequencies from 9 to 10 flights between Johannesburg and Accra, and by launching a daily service between Accra and Washington DC, with effect from 5th September 2019. These two additional weekly services to Washington DC provide SAA’s most convenient schedule yet between Ghana and North America, and will also deliver seamless connections for customers from across West Africa. This includes connections to/from Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria; to/from Monrovia in Liberia; and to/from Freetown in Sierra Leone. This important strategic milestone has been made possible through SAA’s growing co-operation and partnership with Africa World Airlines (AWA).

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading ... s/newsroom

Africa World Airlines (AWA) is further strengthening its regional presence in West Africa by increasing flights between Accra and both Freetown and Monrovia to daily services effective from 5th September 2019. The new flights will provide daily seamless connections to/from South African Airways' (SAA) newly announced additional flighnts to Washington DC via Accra, as well as to Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/africa-w ... 12288-IC1C


Very intersting news, as AWA seems reliable!
If SAA could recover swiftly and quickly about its terrible current troubles, maybe a base in West Africa (Ghana probably) could be implemented.
I really thought that this new increased frequency would come for the festive season and not so soon!

Isn't ET trying to establish a West African base? And didn't The Ghanian government choose ET to help create a new flag carrier for Ghana? idk,I could be wrong.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:12 am

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eastafspot wrote:
If SAA could recover swiftly and quickly about its terrible current troubles, maybe a base in West Africa (Ghana probably) could be implemented.


SAA's Long Term Turnaround Strategy is very clear that they need a strong second hub outside of the Southern Africa region to be able to grown their traffic base. South Africa is geographically disadvantaged to take advantage of most intra-African traffic flows, or for longhaul flows from outside the immediate region, thus restricting the airline's growth potential.

As of September, SAA mainline will have more weekly seats from Accra than they do from Durban, and more ASKs from Accra than they do from Cape Town. It is already becoming SAA's biggest operation outside of Johannesburg and the AWA partnership has already created what is effectively a secondary hub. At the risk of repeating myself from the press release, the new Terminal 3 in Accra permits seamless connections and has been a game changer as far as creating a viable option to the European or East African hubs for the traffic flows that can be offered through there.

Do you think SAA should start a JNB-ACC-LHR/LGW or CPT-ACC-LHR/LGW(to break BA's virtual monopoly on the route)? There seems to be enough demand between Ghana and The UK to justify such a move and Cape Town is becoming more popular.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:06 am

eastafspot wrote:
B747-437B wrote:
South African Airways (SAA) is further strengthening its presence in Ghana by increasing weekly frequencies from 9 to 10 flights between Johannesburg and Accra, and by launching a daily service between Accra and Washington DC, with effect from 5th September 2019. These two additional weekly services to Washington DC provide SAA’s most convenient schedule yet between Ghana and North America, and will also deliver seamless connections for customers from across West Africa. This includes connections to/from Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria; to/from Monrovia in Liberia; and to/from Freetown in Sierra Leone. This important strategic milestone has been made possible through SAA’s growing co-operation and partnership with Africa World Airlines (AWA).

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading ... s/newsroom

Africa World Airlines (AWA) is further strengthening its regional presence in West Africa by increasing flights between Accra and both Freetown and Monrovia to daily services effective from 5th September 2019. The new flights will provide daily seamless connections to/from South African Airways' (SAA) newly announced additional flights to Washington DC via Accra, as well as to Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/africa-w ... 12288-IC1C


Very intersting news, as AWA seems reliable!
If SAA could recover swiftly and quickly about its terrible current troubles, maybe a base in West Africa (Ghana probably) could be implemented.
I really thought that this new increased frequency would come for the festive season and not so soon!


Few things to also note out of this though...
- Currently SAA has 11 weekly flights between the ACC and DKR operations from JNB...this will thus reduce to 10.
- The additional 3 weekly which continues on to ABJ, seems to be changing to A320 aircraft already from this week...so it will be the daily A332/A333 mix on JNB-ACC which also does ACC-IAD + 3 weekly JNB-ACC-ABJ on A320. (btw, anyone have any idea of traffic volume that SAA carries on ACC-ABJ, I believe they have 5th freedom for this as well)
- In the flysaa article they mention suspending DKR, but looking in to possibility of serving DKR via ACC
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:48 pm

Africa World Airlines (AWA), ASKY Airlines and Ethiopian Airlines have teamed up to provide passengers with seamless and stress-free air travel within the West Africa sub-regional and various international routes they serve.

http://www.myjoyonline.com/business/201 ... naians.php
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:35 am

B747-437B wrote:
Africa World Airlines (AWA), ASKY Airlines and Ethiopian Airlines have teamed up to provide passengers with seamless and stress-free air travel within the West Africa sub-regional and various international routes they serve.

http://www.myjoyonline.com/business/201 ... naians.php

Well done AWA, it's their second *A partner after SAA. Will MS be the next?

:arrow: Enugu airport (ENU) - Nigeria will be closed for major repairs on the airfield, eff August the 24th.
The closure of the airport is expected to affect Ethiopian Airlines’ three to four flights weekly into the city as well as Air Peace’s domestic flight. Arik suspended flight operations to the airport a few months ago.

Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/08/faa ... r-repairs/
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:33 am

B747-437B wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
If SAA could recover swiftly and quickly about its terrible current troubles, maybe a base in West Africa (Ghana probably) could be implemented.


As of September, SAA mainline will have more weekly seats from Accra than they do from Durban, and more ASKs from Accra than they do from Cape Town. It is already becoming SAA's biggest operation outside of Johannesburg.



True, but SAA in South Africa have moved their domestic capacity to Mango, their LCC carrier to enable them to compete effectively. The group still makes the revenue
 
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Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:12 pm

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B747-437B wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
If SAA could recover swiftly and quickly about its terrible current troubles, maybe a base in West Africa (Ghana probably) could be implemented.


As of September, SAA mainline will have more weekly seats from Accra than they do from Durban, and more ASKs from Accra than they do from Cape Town. It is already becoming SAA's biggest operation outside of Johannesburg.



True, but SAA in South Africa have moved their domestic capacity to Mango, their LCC carrier to enable them to compete effectively. The group still makes the revenue


Correct.
I'm also not sure how it can be calculated for what amount of seats specifically is for ACC, as on both routes a big part is also assigned for through to JNB...meaning you can't calculate IAD-JNB seats going via ACC as two separate flights for ACC as IAD-ACC and ACC-JNB...same with the ACC-ABJ sector...or can you?
 
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True, but SAA in South Africa have moved their domestic capacity to Mango, their LCC carrier to enable them to compete effectively. The group still makes the revenue


No argument with this. However, the fact that SAA is adding mainline capacity to Accra rather than to domestic stations simply reiterates the point that Accra has already become SAA's defacto "base" in West Africa, and the co-ordinated partnership with AWA to provide wider feed from the region reinforces this.
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:54 am

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What happened with the Nigeria Air project? Didn't they order any A339?


Here is what I remember about it.

- Announcement by Aviation Minister at Farnborough airshow
- Name and proposed livery displayed on renders of B777 and A330
- $300 million to be invested. Nigerian Government to own not more than 5%
- Operations scheduled to start before the end of the year.
- Negotiations supposedly under way with Boeing and Airbus for the proposed fleet.
- Announcement two months later that "the government had taken the tough decision to suspend the project".
- Reason for suspension was alleged to be due to disagreement within the cabinet of the level of government involvement in the operations of the proposed airline..


The Minister for Aviation was reconfirmed in the new cabinet and wasted no time in indicating that it is still on the agenda.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/nigeria-a ... irika.html
 
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Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:27 pm

mapletux wrote:
mapletux wrote:
mr02 wrote:
What happened with the Nigeria Air project? Didn't they order any A339?


Here is what I remember about it.

- Announcement by Aviation Minister at Farnborough airshow
- Name and proposed livery displayed on renders of B777 and A330
- $300 million to be invested. Nigerian Government to own not more than 5%
- Operations scheduled to start before the end of the year.
- Negotiations supposedly under way with Boeing and Airbus for the proposed fleet.
- Announcement two months later that "the government had taken the tough decision to suspend the project".
- Reason for suspension was alleged to be due to disagreement within the cabinet of the level of government involvement in the operations of the proposed airline..


The Minister for Aviation was reconfirmed in the new cabinet and wasted no time in indicating that it is still on the agenda.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/nigeria-a ... irika.html


Excellent reminder Mapletux! :smile:
Glad you keep an eye on it - an all Airbus fleet would last longer for them imho. But,mapletux what do you think about it?


:arrow: Another proof that Nigerian Aviation is still alive and keeps expanding:

- TAAG to commence Luanda-Lagos service in Oct-2019

More info here (French):
https://newsaero.info/airlines/taag-ang ... ?true=2075

Or Portuguese if you like :
https://mercado.co.ao/negocios/taag-ina ... o-BH678715
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:50 am

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No argument with this. However, the fact that SAA is adding mainline capacity to Accra rather than to domestic stations simply reiterates the point that Accra has already become SAA's defacto "base" in West Africa, and the co-ordinated partnership with AWA to provide wider feed from the region reinforces this.


But this is a function of the market in South Africa vis-à-vis West Africa and Ghana. The South African domestic market is a relatively open market with lot more competitive putting pressure on yields and unit revenue, so shifting revenue to a lower cost base is the way to survive. In West Africa and Ghana, the relatively constrained market with less competition allows them to focus on a more extensive product.
 
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Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:29 am

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Excellent reminder Mapletux! :smile:
Glad you keep an eye on it - an all Airbus fleet would last longer for them imho. But,mapletux what do you think about it?


If the following issues are addressed then they have a chance of succeeding

- FAAN makes it possible to transfer seamlessly at at LOS and/or ABV (They have been talking about a new terminal at LOS)
- Aviation fuel is available consistently and reliably. (Hopefully the new refinery being built by Dangote will fix this)
- Government departments pay for their tickets and don't expect to fly for free.
- They concentrate on flying to places where lots of Nigerians like to go and have the necessary baggage policies that will be needed :-)
 
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Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:47 am

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But this is a function of the market in South Africa vis-à-vis West Africa and Ghana. The South African domestic market is a relatively open market with lot more competitive putting pressure on yields and unit revenue, so shifting revenue to a lower cost base is the way to survive. In West Africa and Ghana, the relatively constrained market with less competition allows them to focus on a more extensive product.


Certainly, the lack of strong competition presently in West Africa and the choice of the right partner to provide the feed is a big reason why SAA can afford to do this now (and why it will hopefully be more successful than previous attempts to do the same in Nigeria, Tanzania, Uganda and I'm sure other places I forget). But from a more strategic standpoint, SAA has to grow its core traffic base in order to survive. They cannot do so relying on a single hub in Johannesburg or even multiple hubs in SA itself simply because of geography. SA's share in the South African market is actually dropping as the market opens up to more competition from Middle Eastern carriers in particular. West Africa is geographically ideal for them in that it is literally en-route to their core longhaul markets in the US and Europe, so there exists the possibility to use this location strategically to boost both traffic and yields. The commitment to this strategy already exists from the various stakeholders, so its simply a case of agile execution now.
 
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Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:21 pm

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Certainly, the lack of strong competition presently in West Africa and the choice of the right partner to provide the feed is a big reason why SAA can afford to do this now (and why it will hopefully be more successful than previous attempts to do the same in Nigeria, Tanzania, Uganda and I'm sure other places I forget). But from a more strategic standpoint, SAA has to grow its core traffic base in order to survive. They cannot do so relying on a single hub in Johannesburg or even multiple hubs in SA itself simply because of geography. SA's share in the South African market is actually dropping as the market opens up to more competition from Middle Eastern carriers in particular. West Africa is geographically ideal for them in that it is literally en-route to their core longhaul markets in the US and Europe, so there exists the possibility to use this location strategically to boost both traffic and yields. The commitment to this strategy already exists from the various stakeholders, so its simply a case of agile execution now.


Agreed, and something to throw into the mix is that SAA have an excellent brand and reputation in West Africa, particularly in Ghana and Nigeria. While some commentators on here may think this is absurd, they have done well over the last two decades to develop that brand and reputation, mostly a function of their operational reliability and consistent on-board product compared to many other carriers. They have wanted to build West African inter connectivity and build that into a hub for years. That started with Nigerian 5th freedom routes to the US which got pulled away from under them. Their first attempt at Ghana-US 5th freedom routes when they began JNB-IAD after joining Star Alliance got blocked. But the difference maker is the reliable domestic/regional partner which they now have in AWA.

SA's share of the South African market was always going to decline. This is the counter factual given that domestic and international liberalization was always going to happen. I think that the strategic challenge for them is that in the current market one cannot survive as an end of line carrier without strong partnerships. The inability for SA to develop JVs to key markets is what is killing them slowly. They don't have the cost structure to compete on cost, and also don't have the distribution to fully exploit revenue and yield potential.
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:45 pm

:arrow: STP Airways: CEIBA Intercontinental replaces Euro Atlantic Airways as strategic partner between Sao Tomé and Lisbon.

https://newsaero.info/airlines/stp-airw ... ?true=2083


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If the following issues are addressed then they have a chance of succeeding

- FAAN makes it possible to transfer seamlessly at at LOS and/or ABV (They have been talking about a new terminal at LOS)
- Aviation fuel is available consistently and reliably. (Hopefully the new refinery being built by Dangote will fix this)
- Government departments pay for their tickets and don't expect to fly for free.
- They concentrate on flying to places where lots of Nigerians like to go and have the necessary baggage policies that will be needed :-)


- Do you include federal administrations too? (As some staff may fly Arik Air or Air Peace on the "Naija shuttle service" ABV-LOS).
- It can be interesting to see how the government is keen on investing $$$ on a new project rather than developping or protecting one or two well established ones.
- Fuel shortage ONLY happens once a year or every now and again there, right? Even in AMS - a mayor airport in a developped crountry, it did occur a few weeks ago!

- On your last point, to sum up things:
* High end Nigerians travellers would only fly to Paris, LON, NYC and DXB.
* Business and religious flyers would go to JED, MED, LON & NYC
* VFR pax would choose JNB, ACC, NBO + evenly spread to US & UK.

Considering these guesstimate facts, as not knowing the exact numbers to Int'l destinations (maybe the valuable & respectable member Behramjee have some of them at hand), but if anyone else can confirm or not these, then it would be welcome too! Which destinations would be on the top of the list?

:arrow: Btw, what's currently wrong with Med-View Airline??? Did they really suspend ops?
Maybe a bold move to make more room for the future Nigeria Air venture... :) .

https://newsaero.info/airlines/2079
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Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:24 pm

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- On your last point, to sum up things:
* High end Nigerians travellers would only fly to Paris, LON, NYC and DXB.
* Business and religious flyers would go to JED, MED, LON & NYC
* VFR pax would choose JNB, ACC, NBO + evenly spread to US & UK.

Considering these guesstimate facts, as not knowing the exact numbers to Int'l destinations (maybe the valuable & respectable member Behramjee have some of them at hand), but if anyone else can confirm or not these, then it would be welcome too! Which destinations would be on the top of the list?



Top 10 international O&D markets from Lagos in order :

Accra
London
Dubai
Johannesburg
New York
Guangzhou
Abidjan
Cape Town
Istanbul
Nairobi

Top 10 internatonal O&D markets from Abuja in order :

Dubai
London
Accra
Istanbul
Addis Ababa
Johannesburg
Nairobi
Cairo
Guangzhou
Jeddah

Top 10 internatonal O&D markets from Port Harcourt in order :

London
Malabo
Libreville
Houston
Accra
Paris
Frankfurt
Dallas
Manchester
Amsterdam
 
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Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:32 pm

B747-437B wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
- On your last point, to sum up things:
* High end Nigerians travellers would only fly to Paris, LON, NYC and DXB.
* Business and religious flyers would go to JED, MED, LON & NYC
* VFR pax would choose JNB, ACC, NBO + evenly spread to US & UK.

Considering these guesstimate facts, as not knowing the exact numbers to Int'l destinations (maybe the valuable & respectable member Behramjee have some of them at hand), but if anyone else can confirm or not these, then it would be welcome too! Which destinations would be on the top of the list?



Top 10 international O&D markets from Lagos in order :

Accra
London
Dubai
Johannesburg
New York
Guangzhou
Abidjan
Cape Town
Istanbul
Nairobi

Top 10 internatonal O&D markets from Abuja in order :

Dubai
London
Accra
Istanbul
Addis Ababa
Johannesburg
Nairobi
Cairo
Guangzhou
Jeddah

Top 10 internatonal O&D markets from Port Harcourt in order :

London
Malabo
Libreville
Houston
Accra
Paris
Frankfurt
Dallas
Manchester
Amsterdam


May I ask how come there is so much O&D demand from LOS/ABJ to CAN? Have always heard that it's a big market but never understood the reason behind it.
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:10 am

May I ask how come there is so much O&D demand from LOS/ABV to CAN? Have always heard that it's a big market but never understood the reason behind it.


The reasons that spring to mind are
- Travel related to the many Chinese mega projects in Nigeria
- Nigerians travelling to China to buy stuff for sale back home
- VFR by the Chinese who live in Nigeria (~50,000 in 2005 if this link is to be believed https://www.laits.utexas.edu/africa/ads/998.html)
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:36 pm

Africa World Airlines will launch the first commercial flights into the newly commissioned airport in Wa, Upper West region of Ghana, on 15 October 2019. The airport has recently been allocated the identifier code "WZA" by IATA, signifying its readiness for scheduled flight services. The flights will run three times weekly on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday mornings from Accra with a short stop in Tamale.

Schedule (Tu/Th/Su)

AW194
Dep ACC 0930 Arr TML 1030 Dep TML 1100 Arr WZA 1135

AW195
Dep WZA 1155 Arr TML 1230 Dep TML 1300 Arr ACC 1400
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:35 pm

Top destinations from selected airports in West Africa according to flightradar24.com

Top routes from LOS (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/LOS)
#1 ABV 248 flights/week
#2 PHC 111 flights/week
#3 ACC 76 flights/week
#4 QUO 61 flights/week
#5 KAN 45 flights/week
#6 QOW 25 flights/week
#7 QRW 22 flights/week
#8 BNI 20 flights/week
#9 KAD 20 flights/week
#10 ENU 19 flights/week

Top routes from ABV (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/ABV)
#1 LOS 254 flights/week
#2 PHC 68 flights/week
#3 QUO 44 flights/week
#4 YOL 33 flights/week
#5 KAN 31 flights/week
#6 QRW 29 flights/week
#7 QOW 26 flights/week
#8 SKO 23 flights/week
#9 MIU 21 flights/week
#10 ACC 18 flights/week

Top routes from ABJ (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/ABJ)
#1 BKO 36 flights/week
#2 ACC 31 flights/week
#3 COO 27 flights/week
#4 DSS 25 flights/week
#5 LFW 18 flights/week
#6 OUA 18 flights/week
#7 CKY 15 flights/week
#8 CMN 14 flights/week
#9 LOS 12 flights/week
#10 CDG 11 flights/week

Top routes from ACC (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/ACC)
#1 KMS 113 flights/week
#2 LOS 71 flights/week
#3 TML 55 flights/week
#4 ABJ 32 flights/week
#5 TKD 27 flights/week
#6 LFW 18 flights/week
#7 ROB 17 flights/week
#8 ABV 14 flights/week
#9 FNA 12 flights/week
#10 JNB 12 flights/week

Top routes from DSS (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/DSS)
#1 ZIG 36 flights/week
#2 BKO 29 flights/week
#3 ABJ 24 flights/week
#4 CKY 20 flights/week
#5 CMN 20 flights/week
#6 BJL 20 flights/week
#7 CDG 17 flights/week
#8 NKC 13 flights/week
#9 OXB 13 flights/week
#10 MAD 11 flights/week

Top routes from KAN (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/KAN)
#1 LOS 39 flights/week
#2 ABV 30 flights/week
#3 CAI 5 flights/week
#4 KRT 5 flights/week
#5 ADD 3 flights/week
#6 MXP 1 flights/week
#7 DSS 1 flights/week
#8 LGG 1 flights/week

Some observations:
LOS-ABV-PHC is the "golden triangle" within Nigeria.
ABV seems to be a defacto hub for domestic flights in Nigeria.
All flights from KMS go to ACC (https://www.flightsfrom.com/KMS/destinations).
All flights from QUO go to LOS or ABV (https://www.flightsfrom.com/QUO/destinations).
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:12 pm

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Top destinations from selected airports in West Africa according to flightradar24.com

....


It would be interesting to see the number of seats per destination.
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:55 pm

B747-437B wrote:
Africa World Airlines will launch the first commercial flights into the newly commissioned airport in Wa, Upper West region of Ghana, on 15 October 2019. The airport has recently been allocated the identifier code "WZA" by IATA, signifying its readiness for scheduled flight services. The flights will run three times weekly on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday mornings from Accra with a short stop in Tamale.

Schedule (Tu/Th/Su)

AW194
Dep ACC 0930 Arr TML 1030 Dep TML 1100 Arr WZA 1135

AW195
Dep WZA 1155 Arr TML 1230 Dep TML 1300 Arr ACC 1400


AWA expansion might impress at the first sight.
What is the current agenda of HNA?
I've heard that China (globally) will drastically slow down investments in some parts of Africa (Globally), Hope it won't affect them in the near future.
Also, Accra - Ghana aims to become the busiest airport in West Africa within 10 years thanks to the aforsaid info supported by Chinese.


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Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:36 pm

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Top destinations from selected airports in West Africa according to flightradar24.com
.


Thanks a ton bruh, I definitely do much appreciate your hard work ( and also previous B747's answer at the same time btw) since it takes age to gather all the available datas at a certain time. (I tried to do this using official West African states civil aviation websites before and/or during an update to the thread = a nightmare for myself, as non aviation professional as some of them handed out figures from 2014 the latest.... meh! :crazy: .

This advice might sound childish to you but not intented to it of course. :smile:
Most of us do know/visit/heard mayor airports in West Africa - Some of them are totally unknown despite not weighing to much in the business balance though. Adding the city plus country to airport code (name) would help other fellow to understand better which places we are talking about - without using GG.

Anyway, according to what you've stated and other people did, we can start meaningful statistics to be updated whenever the info is ready :smile: .


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:arrow: The second Air Senegal Airbus A330neo is expected on October 15, 2019. :chat: :champagne: :champagne:

Apparently, schedule flight time to Paris CDG will change, can anyone confirm that?


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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:50 pm

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mapletux wrote:
Top destinations from selected airports in West Africa according to flightradar24.com
.


This advice might sound childish to you but not intented to it of course. :smile:
Most of us do know/visit/heard mayor airports in West Africa - Some of them are totally unknown despite not weighing to much in the business balance though. Adding the city plus country to airport code (name) would help other fellow to understand better which places we are talking about - without using GG.

Anyway, according to what you've stated and other people did, we can start meaningful statistics to be updated whenever the info is ready :smile: .


My bad :-( That is an excellent suggestion.

LOS/DNMM
Lagos Murtala Mohammed Airport
Nigeria

ABV/DNAA
Abuja Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport
Nigeria

ABJ/DIAP
Abidjan Port Bouet Airport
Cote D'ivoire (Ivory Coast)

ACC/DGAA
Accra Kotoka International Airport
Ghana

DSS/GOBD
Dakar Blaise Diagne International Airport
Senegal

KAN/DNKN
Kano Mallam Aminu International Airport
Nigeria
 
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Re: West African Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:45 pm

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mapletux wrote:
Top destinations from selected airports in West Africa according to flightradar24.com
.



:arrow: The second Air Senegal Airbus A330neo is expected on October 15, 2019. :chat: :champagne: :champagne:

Apparently, schedule flight time to Paris CDG will change, can anyone confirm that?


https://newsaero.info/airlines/le-deuxi ... ?true=2111


In the CRSs the current flight departs DSS at 0950 to CDG. There appears to be no flight on 26OCT and starting 27OCT the flight departs at 0035, arriving CDG at 0700. The return is CDG 0900 1345 DSS.
I'm not sure this is a good move for Air Senegal because northbound their flight will operate almost parallel with AF. Maybe they would have been better with a night departures from CDG?

On a side note, where are they going to deploy their 2nd A330?
 
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Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:01 pm

Africa World Airlines will increase services between Accra and Lagos to 34 weekly roundtrips effective from 27OCT19, as well as between Accra and Abuja to 11 weekly roundtrips from the same date.

AW210 1234567 ACC LOS 0620 0820
AW212 1234567 ACC LOS 0920 1120
AW216 ---45-7 ACC LOS 1140 1340
AW218 1234567 ACC LOS 1440 1640
AW222 1234567 ACC LOS 1810 2010
AW228 -2-4--7 ACC LOS 2359 0200+1

AW209 1-3-5-- LOS ACC 0600 0600
AW211 1234567 LOS ACC 0850 0850
AW213 1234567 LOS ACC 1150 1150
AW217 ---45-7 LOS ACC 1410 1410
AW219 1234567 LOS ACC 1710 1710
AW223 1234567 LOS ACC 2040 2040

AW254 1234567 ACC ABV 1040 1325
AW260 -2-45-7 ACC ABV 1810 2055

AW251 1-3-56- ABV ACC 0745 0830
AW255 1234567 ABV ACC 1355 1440

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What airlines currently service Maiduguri Airport (MIU), Nigeria, is it even in operation

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