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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:25 pm

TVNWZ wrote:
strangeplanes wrote:
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Keep negotiating.

(no) They can either sign or pay a higher fee.


Lol. No. Everything is negotiable. Just business.

Some of the airlines who didn’t sign were not signed on to the existing agreement or have been non signatory in the recent past.

Others have corporate policies that prevent signing u/l agreements as long as the one that is being put in place.

The political capital it would take to go back through city council with a different u/l agreement isn’t worth it for airlines that make up less than 1% each of airport traffic. Let alone the uproar this would cause among the airlines who did sign that make up 95+% of traffic.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:13 am

The airport will cut deals with any airlines that want to offer service. If Jet Blue wanted to establish a focus city or hub at MCI, but it was contingent on the same or better rate than everyone else, the airport would fall over itself to sign them up.

Also, the airlines offering very little service would be foolish to sign something now when they may not even be offering service by the time the airport opens. If they are still there, MCI will cuts deal to keep them.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:16 am

TVNWZ wrote:
The airport will cut deals with any airlines that want to offer service. If Jet Blue wanted to establish a focus city or hub at MCI, but it was contingent on the same or better rate than everyone else, the airport would fall over itself to sign them up.

Also, the airlines offering very little service would be foolish to sign something now when they may not even be offering service by the time the airport opens. If they are still there, MCI will cuts deal to keep them.


Yes, I agree with the JetBlue thing. Someone coming in with big gate interest would be getting deals.

However, that is not what the original conversation is about. It's about airlines who make up <1% of traffic and who aren't signatory on the existing deal getting special deals. Something like that won't happen.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:10 pm

But they won’t get a worse deal either. They’ll say: worse deal? We’re out. MCI won’t let that happen.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:58 am

It will be interesting to see how the MAX grounding affects Icelandair’s S’19 service to mid-America.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:08 am

Groundbreaking for the new terminal is coming up on Monday. City Council passed the short term financing today also.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:43 pm

Anyone attend the groundbreaking ceremony today?
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:18 am

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Anyone attend the groundbreaking ceremony today?


I wasn't able to get to the airport today. Here is a link with some video footage: https://fox4kc.com/2019/03/25/ceremonia ... on-at-kci/
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:01 am

As i'm sure some of you have already read, FI is dropping CLE this summer as well as Halifax due to MAX8 issues. I believe this just leaves MCI left from their recent expansion. This doesn't bode well for KC. However i've read from one of the airport directors that bookings are up this year and that FI was bringing back the 757 anyways so hopefully MCI will narrowly avoid the ax.

However, since the MAX glitches are likely temporary i'm hopeful FI will resume those cities in the near future.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:14 am

trexel94 wrote:
As i'm sure some of you have already read, FI is dropping CLE this summer as well as Halifax due to MAX8 issues. I believe this just leaves MCI left from their recent expansion. This doesn't bode well for KC. However i've read from one of the airport directors that bookings are up this year and that FI was bringing back the 757 anyways so hopefully MCI will narrowly avoid the ax.

However, since the MAX glitches are likely temporary i'm hopeful FI will resume those cities in the near future.


They added a frequency to MCI this year, so worst case I figured they go back to 3x a week.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:33 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
trexel94 wrote:
As i'm sure some of you have already read, FI is dropping CLE this summer as well as Halifax due to MAX8 issues. I believe this just leaves MCI left from their recent expansion. This doesn't bode well for KC. However i've read from one of the airport directors that bookings are up this year and that FI was bringing back the 757 anyways so hopefully MCI will narrowly avoid the ax.

However, since the MAX glitches are likely temporary i'm hopeful FI will resume those cities in the near future.


They added a frequency to MCI this year, so worst case I figured they go back to 3x a week.

It looks like the May 27th flight is already more than 72% booked. That seems like a pretty high number this far out. June looks to be in the 50-60% range.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:43 am

Booking portal reflected to show upguaging to 757-200
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri May 24, 2019 9:20 pm

FI's first flight of the season begins today with four weekly flights instead of the initial three and when I last checked a few weeks ago today's flight was nearly sold out. Stronger bookings are anticipated this year.

In other news, i've heard that airport reps have been making repeat trips to Germany over the past few months and that the German Federal Foreign Office is currently sponsoring a 1 year cultural exchange in the Crossroads District. Could FRA be in the works in a year or two? IMHO, Condor would probably be more realistic than LH.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat May 25, 2019 2:25 pm

DL recently added another frequency to BOS in the fall. Also saw on the STL thread that AS dropped their planned 737 addition to SAN route
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat May 25, 2019 2:37 pm

trexel94 wrote:
FI's first flight of the season begins today with four weekly flights instead of the initial three and when I last checked a few weeks ago today's flight was nearly sold out. Stronger bookings are anticipated this year.

In other news, i've heard that airport reps have been making repeat trips to Germany over the past few months and that the German Federal Foreign Office is currently sponsoring a 1 year cultural exchange in the Crossroads District. Could FRA be in the works in a year or two? IMHO, Condor would probably be more realistic than LH.


Definitely don’t see LH coming here. Condor would still be surprising but more realistic than LH.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:07 pm

FI's enplanements for May 2019 was 815 compared to May 2018 of 442. An 84% increase.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:12 pm

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FI's enplanements for May 2019 was 815 compared to May 2018 of 442. An 84% increase.


How many more flights?
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:26 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
trexel94 wrote:
FI's enplanements for May 2019 was 815 compared to May 2018 of 442. An 84% increase.


How many more flights?

2019 service started on the 24th of May so I believe it totaled 5 flights for that month. I'm particularly paying close attention to this year of service since once the 2019 season concludes the subsidy runs out and FI will have to rely solely on profits going forward.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:04 pm

trexel94 wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
trexel94 wrote:
FI's enplanements for May 2019 was 815 compared to May 2018 of 442. An 84% increase.


How many more flights?

2019 service started on the 24th of May so I believe it totaled 5 flights for that month. I'm particularly paying close attention to this year of service since once the 2019 season concludes the subsidy runs out and FI will have to rely solely on profits going forward.


Will be interesting to see if it holds on post this flying season. Especially with the Max uncertainty and loss of subsidy
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:12 pm

trexel94 wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
trexel94 wrote:
FI's enplanements for May 2019 was 815 compared to May 2018 of 442. An 84% increase.


How many more flights?

2019 service started on the 24th of May so I believe it totaled 5 flights for that month. I'm particularly paying close attention to this year of service since once the 2019 season concludes the subsidy runs out and FI will have to rely solely on profits going forward.


I meant how many more this year in May than last year in May? Guessing maybe just one or two. Will be interesting to see the LFs when they get released.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:36 pm

Jshank83 wrote:
trexel94 wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:

How many more flights?

2019 service started on the 24th of May so I believe it totaled 5 flights for that month. I'm particularly paying close attention to this year of service since once the 2019 season concludes the subsidy runs out and FI will have to rely solely on profits going forward.


I meant how many more this year in May than last year in May? Guessing maybe just one or two. Will be interesting to see the LFs when they get released.

From what I see it went ’t from 3x to 4x
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:49 pm

TWA302 wrote:
Jshank83 wrote:
trexel94 wrote:
2019 service started on the 24th of May so I believe it totaled 5 flights for that month. I'm particularly paying close attention to this year of service since once the 2019 season concludes the subsidy runs out and FI will have to rely solely on profits going forward.


I meant how many more this year in May than last year in May? Guessing maybe just one or two. Will be interesting to see the LFs when they get released.

From what I see it went ’t from 3x to 4x


Correct. Weekly did but I didn’t know how the start dates changed from last year to this year so I was wanting to know how many last year flew to this year (YoY) in May. Did they start the same date? Did one year start a week earlier (hence more flights). That way I can compare passengers. If they flew 5 this may and 2 last May then having an 80% jump isn’t that great. If they flew 4 or 5 last May and 5 this may then it is.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:34 pm

It looks like they flew 3 flights in May 2018 and 5 flights this May.
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:58 pm

Delta starts running the A220 between MCI and SEA in March 2020.

Source: https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 45761?s=21
 
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Re: Kansas City Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:35 pm

How is FI doing this summer? Their fares are impressive, and for anyone utilizing the KEF stopover program is definitely coming out on top. FI's restructuring process is interesting, but I'm glad they have held on to this Midwest city.

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