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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:41 pm

Ishrion wrote:
dfw88 wrote:
sargester wrote:

A332s can depart B, they usually have the seasonal short range narrowbody flights like MCO/PUJ/PHL out of B


I'm sure you mean A321s, not A332s, right? As of earlier this year, yes, A321s can use the low terminal B gates. Before that they couldn't. AA has never sent an A332 through DFW. At least not since 2004, which is the earliest data I can find.


AA has scheduled a few charter A330s to PHL in recent years. I believe it was for football.

And... I’m assuming A321 as AA doesn’t operate A330s between DFW-MCO/PUJ/PHL.


Good point. I should have said I was only looking for A330s in the published schedule. Charter is a different story.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:26 pm

I thought I had heard AA is gaining 4 gates on concourse A in CLT starting sometime this fall/winter. I will be through there next month and will check on the progress.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:09 pm

CIDFlyer wrote:
I thought I had heard AA is gaining 4 gates on concourse A in CLT starting sometime this fall/winter. I will be through there next month and will check on the progress.


AA is gaining 4 and the airport is gaining 2, which will be flex gates for AA. DL will keep the other 7 in A until the Phase II expansion is complete. I would expect for some domestic traffic to move from D to A once this is complete. (scheduled for end of 2019, but we will see.)
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:18 am

dfw88 wrote:
sargester wrote:
dfw88 wrote:

Quick correction: They renovated a few gates at B to accommodate mainline narrowbody aircraft instead of just regional jets. No widebodies at B.


A332s can depart B, they usually have the seasonal short range narrowbody flights like MCO/PUJ/PHL out of B


I'm sure you mean A321s, not A332s, right? As of earlier this year, yes, A321s can use the low terminal B gates. Before that they couldn't. AA has never sent an A332 through DFW. At least not since 2004, which is the earliest data I can find.


oh I'm sorry I misread this, thought yall were talking about CLT
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:18 am

Ishrion wrote:
dfw88 wrote:
sargester wrote:

A332s can depart B, they usually have the seasonal short range narrowbody flights like MCO/PUJ/PHL out of B


I'm sure you mean A321s, not A332s, right? As of earlier this year, yes, A321s can use the low terminal B gates. Before that they couldn't. AA has never sent an A332 through DFW. At least not since 2004, which is the earliest data I can find.


AA has scheduled a few charter A330s to PHL in recent years. I believe it was for football.

And... I’m assuming A321 as AA doesn’t operate A330s between DFW-MCO/PUJ/PHL.


thought you guys were talking about CLT my bad
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:35 pm

It still isn't clear what the duration of the 2020 season will be for the international seasonal routes out of Chicago and Philadelphia.

We know that the new ones like Prague, Budapest and Krakow out of ORD will fly until the end of October according to the official press release but there is confusion about what is going to happen with routes like Rome, Athens etc..
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:52 pm

Detroit313 wrote:
It still isn't clear what the duration of the 2020 season will be for the international seasonal routes out of Chicago and Philadelphia.

We know that the new ones like Prague, Budapest and Krakow out of ORD will fly until the end of October according to the official press release but there is confusion about what is going to happen with routes like Rome, Athens etc..


Athens is rumored to start a month earlier from PHL/ORD, as well as DFW-MUC/DUB and I believe AMS/FCO....
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:08 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Detroit313 wrote:
It still isn't clear what the duration of the 2020 season will be for the international seasonal routes out of Chicago and Philadelphia.

We know that the new ones like Prague, Budapest and Krakow out of ORD will fly until the end of October according to the official press release but there is confusion about what is going to happen with routes like Rome, Athens etc..


Athens is rumored to start a month earlier from PHL/ORD, as well as DFW-MUC/DUB and I believe AMS/FCO....


Oh wow... That would be great. I guess we will know soon since they have to go on sale very soon.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:35 pm

DFW-FCO already starts in April, are they looking to start the season in early March instead?

I had read rumors PHL-PRG is starting early as well?


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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:36 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Detroit313 wrote:
It still isn't clear what the duration of the 2020 season will be for the international seasonal routes out of Chicago and Philadelphia.

We know that the new ones like Prague, Budapest and Krakow out of ORD will fly until the end of October according to the official press release but there is confusion about what is going to happen with routes like Rome, Athens etc..


Athens is rumored to start a month earlier from PHL/ORD, as well as DFW-MUC/DUB and I believe AMS/FCO....


They still haven't announced if/when the second daily DFW-MAD and DFW-CDG flights will occur next summer.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:40 pm

chepos wrote:
DFW-FCO already starts in April, are they looking to start the season in early March instead?

I had read rumors PHL-PRG is starting early as well?


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I think JonNYC said PHL-PRG will be upguaged to the A332?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:51 pm

Ishrion wrote:
chepos wrote:
DFW-FCO already starts in April, are they looking to start the season in early March instead?

I had read rumors PHL-PRG is starting early as well?


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I think JonNYC said PHL-PRG will be upguaged to the A332?


PHL-PRG is already running with the A332 for this summer.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:51 pm

Ishrion wrote:
chepos wrote:
DFW-FCO already starts in April, are they looking to start the season in early March instead?

I had read rumors PHL-PRG is starting early as well?


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I think JonNYC said PHL-PRG will be upguaged to the A332?


It's already loaded in the schedule, PHL-PRG starts 07 MAY on the A332
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:58 pm

Ishrion wrote:
chepos wrote:
DFW-FCO already starts in April, are they looking to start the season in early March instead?

I had read rumors PHL-PRG is starting early as well?


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I think JonNYC said PHL-PRG will be upguaged to the A332?

It already was this summer. Do you mean PHL-DBV?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:09 pm

usairways85 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
chepos wrote:
DFW-FCO already starts in April, are they looking to start the season in early March instead?

I had read rumors PHL-PRG is starting early as well?


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I think JonNYC said PHL-PRG will be upguaged to the A332?

It already was this summer. Do you mean PHL-DBV?


This I posted last year, for this summer:
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1046 ... 47872?s=20

I had posted earlier this month that BUD was going A332 for 2020
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:37 pm

As currently loaded, summer seasonal TATL routes of PHL start as of the following:

March 28: BCN, EDI, LIS (these routes started April 2 last summer)
May 7: ATH, BUD, PRG, SNN, VCE (these routes started May 3 last summer)
June 4-5: CMN, DBV, KEF, TXL (DBV and TXL started June 7 last summer)

I believe all routes starting March/May run to the end of October and routes beginning in June run to the end of September like last year. So far, none of these routes have been upgauged in aircraft (PRG was already an A332 in 2019) or extended in seasonal duration (frequency increases have been announced and uploaded on DBV and TXL).

Personally, I would like to see routes like ATH, BUD, PRG, and VCE extended to start in early April and to run a few extra weeks at the end of the summer season (as well as BCN) since these routes are all run out of ORD too. Up to two daily flights in April or November in the AA system may be too much capacity, but one daily, or less than daily, flight system wide might be more manageable. And perhaps the routes beginning in June will all see a longer summer season in 2021 - two are new and the other two have increased frequency compared with 2019. But this is all just based on my amateur brain and has no science behind it.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:06 pm

usairways85 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
chepos wrote:
DFW-FCO already starts in April, are they looking to start the season in early March instead?

I had read rumors PHL-PRG is starting early as well?


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I think JonNYC said PHL-PRG will be upguaged to the A332?

It already was this summer. Do you mean PHL-DBV?


Oops, I meant PHL-BUD.

It’s just a rumored: https://mobile.twitter.com/xJonNYC/stat ... 8924239872
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:04 pm

AA opening a 787 pilot base in PHL in January 2020. Starting 787 service PHL-ZRH/MAN/AMS same month.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:16 pm

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AA opening a 787 pilot base in PHL in January 2020. Starting 787 service PHL-ZRH/MAN/AMS same month.


That was scheduled quite a while ago.

Originally it was added in December 2018 for inaugural service this year in November on MAN/AMS, but in February of this year they moved it to JAN 2020 and added ZRH.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:28 am

Ishrion wrote:
ABEguy wrote:
AA opening a 787 pilot base in PHL in January 2020. Starting 787 service PHL-ZRH/MAN/AMS same month.


That was scheduled quite a while ago.

Originally it was added in December 2018 for inaugural service this year in November on MAN/AMS, but in February of this year they moved it to JAN 2020 and added ZRH.


Pilot base was announced today. The rest is correct.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:42 am

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AA opening a 787 pilot base in PHL in January 2020. Starting 787 service PHL-ZRH/MAN/AMS same month.


I'm wondering if the 788s will be rotated to PHL from ORD or from DFW. I'd guess DFW, but we'll see. Nothing is loaded yet, but I imagine there will have to be some type of domestic rotation since ZRH/MAN/AMS are unique destinations to PHL (though AMS is only unique in the winter).
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:48 am

What international routes are left with Boeing 767-300ER by 2020?
I know they will operate
PHL-LIS / DBV / TXL / BUD
MIA-LIM / GYE / MVD / COR
CX - JL - LH - KE - KL - SQ - QR - QF - TG
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:07 am

FSDan wrote:
ABEguy wrote:
AA opening a 787 pilot base in PHL in January 2020. Starting 787 service PHL-ZRH/MAN/AMS same month.


I'm wondering if the 788s will be rotated to PHL from ORD or from DFW. I'd guess DFW, but we'll see. Nothing is loaded yet, but I imagine there will have to be some type of domestic rotation since ZRH/MAN/AMS are unique destinations to PHL (though AMS is only unique in the winter).


I’m pretty sure there will be some 787 DFW-PHL flights for rotation purposes.


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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:33 am

RainerBoeing777 wrote:
What international routes are left with Boeing 767-300ER by 2020?
I know they will operate
PHL-LIS / DBV / TXL / BUD
MIA-LIM / GYE / MVD / COR


Are we counting MIA-SJU and PHL-PUJ?
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:33 am

chepos wrote:
FSDan wrote:
ABEguy wrote:
AA opening a 787 pilot base in PHL in January 2020. Starting 787 service PHL-ZRH/MAN/AMS same month.


I'm wondering if the 788s will be rotated to PHL from ORD or from DFW. I'd guess DFW, but we'll see. Nothing is loaded yet, but I imagine there will have to be some type of domestic rotation since ZRH/MAN/AMS are unique destinations to PHL (though AMS is only unique in the winter).


I’m pretty sure there will be some 787 DFW-PHL flights for rotation purposes.


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So far it looks like they are routing in from both DFW and ORD.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:35 am

AA321T wrote:
chepos wrote:
FSDan wrote:

I'm wondering if the 788s will be rotated to PHL from ORD or from DFW. I'd guess DFW, but we'll see. Nothing is loaded yet, but I imagine there will have to be some type of domestic rotation since ZRH/MAN/AMS are unique destinations to PHL (though AMS is only unique in the winter).


I’m pretty sure there will be some 787 DFW-PHL flights for rotation purposes.


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So far it looks like they are routing in from both DFW and ORD.


I'm not seeing any 788 flights between DFW/ORD-PHL in January. Doesn't seem like it's loaded yet. Is it on select dates?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:38 am

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/

American Airlines upgauges CLT-FRA from the A332 to the A333.

An increase of Economy seats at the expense of Premium Economy.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:40 am

Ishrion wrote:
AA321T wrote:
chepos wrote:

I’m pretty sure there will be some 787 DFW-PHL flights for rotation purposes.


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So far it looks like they are routing in from both DFW and ORD.


I'm not seeing any 788 flights between DFW/ORD-PHL in January. Doesn't seem like it's loaded yet. Is it on select dates?

Might not be loaded on AA.com yet but I’m seeing a daily 788 arriving from both DFW and ORD at 1630 daily starting on 1/12.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:44 am

AA321T wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
AA321T wrote:
So far it looks like they are routing in from both DFW and ORD.


I'm not seeing any 788 flights between DFW/ORD-PHL in January. Doesn't seem like it's loaded yet. Is it on select dates?

Might not be loaded on AA.com yet but I’m seeing a daily 788 arriving from both DFW and ORD at 1630 daily starting on 1/12.


Yeah... not sure what's up but I'm not seeing it on 1/12 and after.

Interestingly, the 788 flight begins on PHL-MAN on I believe 1/07, and then for ZRH/AMS on 1/08 as the two flights aren't daily in the winter. Wonder where the 788 will come from on those dates, unless it's just not loaded.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:11 am

OslPhlWasChi wrote:
Personally, I would like to see routes like ATH, BUD, PRG, and VCE extended to start in early April and to run a few extra weeks at the end of the summer season (as well as BCN) since these routes are all run out of ORD too. Up to two daily flights in April or November in the AA system may be too much capacity, but one daily, or less than daily, flight system wide might be more manageable.


Why do you thinks there's demand (at carrier-desired fares) for that? Apart from a notable Easter bump for FCO, tourist TATL is very much an 'out of school' peak. The start of that varies across the U.S. - somewhere between ~5/22 and 6/15 - but it's very apparent.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:41 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
OslPhlWasChi wrote:
Personally, I would like to see routes like ATH, BUD, PRG, and VCE extended to start in early April and to run a few extra weeks at the end of the summer season (as well as BCN) since these routes are all run out of ORD too. Up to two daily flights in April or November in the AA system may be too much capacity, but one daily, or less than daily, flight system wide might be more manageable.


Why do you thinks there's demand (at carrier-desired fares) for that? Apart from a notable Easter bump for FCO, tourist TATL is very much an 'out of school' peak. The start of that varies across the U.S. - somewhere between ~5/22 and 6/15 - but it's very apparent.


I have no basis for claiming there is demand or feasibility. But if schedules are too be extended as many have suggested or desired or claimed may happen, here is where I would guess (emphasis on guess) is where any potential may lie. Simply pointing out these routes go suddenly from no seats to a lot of seats in the AA system and perhaps there could be a step, of undetermined size, in the middle to ramp up to the full summer season capacity. Same on the back end.

And while I do not deny the out of school contributions to summer TATL demand, I am sure it is much more complex - beyond what I can understand - and increasingly so every year. After all, seasonal starts of May 7 and ends in late September/October do not align with the typical school calendar in the US.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:41 am

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PUJ has routinely seen widebodies during the the spring break season (late Feb - April), but I am not sure if a widebody has been used between Nov-Feb. Somewhat surprising given the recent flight cuts by other airlines. I believe MBJ is a new widebody destination.

Ishrion wrote:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/286095/american-s20-charlotte-frankfurt-aircraft-changes/

American Airlines upgauges CLT-FRA from the A332 to the A333.

An increase of Economy seats at the expense of Premium Economy.

So now the question becomes what route is losing the A333.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:22 pm

usairways85 wrote:
acentauri wrote:

PUJ has routinely seen widebodies during the the spring break season (late Feb - April), but I am not sure if a widebody has been used between Nov-Feb. Somewhat surprising given the recent flight cuts by other airlines. I believe MBJ is a new widebody destination.

Ishrion wrote:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/286095/american-s20-charlotte-frankfurt-aircraft-changes/

American Airlines upgauges CLT-FRA from the A332 to the A333.

An increase of Economy seats at the expense of Premium Economy.

So now the question becomes what route is losing the A333.


Looks like PHL-FCO switches to the A332 from the A333 next year.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KPHL/LIRF

Currently scheduled in March and throughout the summer to be an A332.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:29 pm

I'm seeing double daily DFW-GUA starting February with one of the flights now being a redeye. Does anyone have any information on this?
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:05 pm

Ishrion wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
So now the question becomes what route is losing the A333.


Looks like PHL-FCO switches to the A332 from the A333 next year.


There's also usually a few frames of slack in the 333 fleet. In the summer, CLT-LHR x2 + CLT-FRA x1 + CLT-FCO x1 + PHL-LHR x2 + PHL-ATH x1 would take 7 out of 9 frames. They could still add another TATL 333 route and have enough breathing room, I'd think.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:25 pm

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ABEguy wrote:
AA opening a 787 pilot base in PHL in January 2020. Starting 787 service PHL-ZRH/MAN/AMS same month.


I'm wondering if the 788s will be rotated to PHL from ORD or from DFW. I'd guess DFW, but we'll see. Nothing is loaded yet, but I imagine there will have to be some type of domestic rotation since ZRH/MAN/AMS are unique destinations to PHL (though AMS is only unique in the winter).


It will take some time to fully staff this new pilot bid position. Therefore, some flying will need to be covered by B787 crews in DFW and ORD until that time. PHL hopes to be fully staffed by summer 2020 so all PHL flying can be crewed locally.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:41 pm

AA adds summer 2020 routes to Alaska and Montana: https://thepointsguy.com/news/american- ... nd-alaska/

ALASKA FLIGHTS

Dallas/Fort Worth-Fairbanks

Daily service on Airbus A321 aircraft. Begins May 7 and runs through Oct. 6.

Chicago O’Hare-Fairbanks

Daily service on Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Begins May 7 and runs through Oct. 6.

Chicago O’Hare-Anchorage

Daily service on Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Begins May 7 and runs through Oct. 6.

MONTANA FLIGHTS

Philadelphia-Bozeman

Saturday-only service on Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Begins June 6 and runs through Sept. 5

Los Angeles-Bozeman

Daily service on Embraer E175 aircraft. Begins June 4 and runs through Sept. 8.

New York LaGuardia-Bozeman

Saturday-only service on Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Begins June 6 and runs through Sept. 5.

New York LaGuardia-Kalispell

Saturday-only service on Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Begins June 6 and runs through Sept. 5.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:49 pm

redwingspilot wrote:
FSDan wrote:
ABEguy wrote:
AA opening a 787 pilot base in PHL in January 2020. Starting 787 service PHL-ZRH/MAN/AMS same month.


I'm wondering if the 788s will be rotated to PHL from ORD or from DFW. I'd guess DFW, but we'll see. Nothing is loaded yet, but I imagine there will have to be some type of domestic rotation since ZRH/MAN/AMS are unique destinations to PHL (though AMS is only unique in the winter).


It will take some time to fully staff this new pilot bid position. Therefore, some flying will need to be covered by B787 crews in DFW and ORD until that time. PHL hopes to be fully staffed by summer 2020 so all PHL flying can be crewed locally.


Regardless of whether the pilots and crews are staffed from a base in PHL, I think AA will still want to be able to swap aircraft from PHL back to ORD/DFW for maintenance, etc. It's very rare to see any of the US3 isolate part of a long haul fleet to just a few routes with no bridge back to the rest of the network.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:56 pm

Ishrion wrote:
RainerBoeing777 wrote:
What international routes are left with Boeing 767-300ER by 2020?
I know they will operate
PHL-LIS / DBV / TXL / BUD
MIA-LIM / GYE / MVD / COR


Are we counting MIA-SJU and PHL-PUJ?


PHL-PUJ sure since it is international.

MIA-SJU is domestic.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:29 am

FSDan wrote:
redwingspilot wrote:
FSDan wrote:

I'm wondering if the 788s will be rotated to PHL from ORD or from DFW. I'd guess DFW, but we'll see. Nothing is loaded yet, but I imagine there will have to be some type of domestic rotation since ZRH/MAN/AMS are unique destinations to PHL (though AMS is only unique in the winter).


It will take some time to fully staff this new pilot bid position. Therefore, some flying will need to be covered by B787 crews in DFW and ORD until that time. PHL hopes to be fully staffed by summer 2020 so all PHL flying can be crewed locally.


Regardless of whether the pilots and crews are staffed from a base in PHL, I think AA will still want to be able to swap aircraft from PHL back to ORD/DFW for maintenance, etc. It's very rare to see any of the US3 isolate part of a long haul fleet to just a few routes with no bridge back to the rest of the network.


That's what I'm implying that DFW/ORD-PHL will supplement until the establishment of pilot and aircraft basing at PHL.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:41 am

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FSDan wrote:
redwingspilot wrote:

It will take some time to fully staff this new pilot bid position. Therefore, some flying will need to be covered by B787 crews in DFW and ORD until that time. PHL hopes to be fully staffed by summer 2020 so all PHL flying can be crewed locally.


Regardless of whether the pilots and crews are staffed from a base in PHL, I think AA will still want to be able to swap aircraft from PHL back to ORD/DFW for maintenance, etc. It's very rare to see any of the US3 isolate part of a long haul fleet to just a few routes with no bridge back to the rest of the network.


That's what I'm implying that DFW/ORD-PHL will supplement until the establishment of pilot and aircraft basing at PHL.


And I'm saying that even after the point where PHL is fully established as a pilot base, I'd still expect there to be rotation of 787 frames with the rest of the network.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:18 am

redwingspilot wrote:
FSDan wrote:
redwingspilot wrote:

It will take some time to fully staff this new pilot bid position. Therefore, some flying will need to be covered by B787 crews in DFW and ORD until that time. PHL hopes to be fully staffed by summer 2020 so all PHL flying can be crewed locally.


Regardless of whether the pilots and crews are staffed from a base in PHL, I think AA will still want to be able to swap aircraft from PHL back to ORD/DFW for maintenance, etc. It's very rare to see any of the US3 isolate part of a long haul fleet to just a few routes with no bridge back to the rest of the network.


That's what I'm implying that DFW/ORD-PHL will supplement until the establishment of pilot and aircraft basing at PHL.


They have already stated this https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/20 ... ssion=true

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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:24 am

Ishrion wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
acentauri wrote:

PUJ has routinely seen widebodies during the the spring break season (late Feb - April), but I am not sure if a widebody has been used between Nov-Feb. Somewhat surprising given the recent flight cuts by other airlines. I believe MBJ is a new widebody destination.

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https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/286095/american-s20-charlotte-frankfurt-aircraft-changes/

American Airlines upgauges CLT-FRA from the A332 to the A333.

An increase of Economy seats at the expense of Premium Economy.

So now the question becomes what route is losing the A333.


Looks like PHL-FCO switches to the A332 from the A333 next year.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KPHL/LIRF

Currently scheduled in March and throughout the summer to be an A332.


Surprised PHL-FCO switches to a 332 while CLT keeps the 333.

Also surprised FRA is up gauging to the 333.


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AA 2nd Daily DFW-MAD/CDG

Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:36 pm

This year AA started a second daily flight from DFW to both MAD and CDG. I don't see this second flight in 2020. Is there any talk of AA restarting both of these second flights?
 
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Re: AA 2nd Daily DFW-MAD/CDG

Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:03 pm

So, they're not actually going away. At the end of the IATA summer season (so, near the end of October) the second frequency goes subdaily. Instead of 2 flights to MAD and 2 to CDG each day there will be 3 flights to the two destination. One to each and the third will alternate destinations by day. I think it's 3x to CDG and 4x to MAD. I see that in the schedule through December (I thought it was supposed to go all winter, so either I'm wrong or it hasn't been uploaded yet). Then, in June 2020 both will go back to double daily.
 
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Re: AA 2nd Daily DFW-MAD/CDG

Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:07 am

DFWandOMA wrote:
This year AA started a second daily flight from DFW to both MAD and CDG. I don't see this second flight in 2020. Is there any talk of AA restarting both of these second flights?


Oh, I was wondering where your thread went. I guess it went to here.

Currently, starting June 4th, 2020, both of these flights will go 2x daily. You can book both flights on aa.com right now. I'm not sure if the schedule is finalized yet.

In the winter, DFW-MAD will go 11x weekly and CDG 10x weekly.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:48 pm

Seems like a lot of A321Neo flying between LAX, PHX and DFW. Doesn't AA have a better use for those on longer flights?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:27 pm

anymaninfc wrote:
Seems like a lot of A321Neo flying between LAX, PHX and DFW. Doesn't AA have a better use for those on longer flights?


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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2019

Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:33 am

It is still also very unclear when the season for the European routes is going to end in 2020 from ORD. We know and it has been confirmed that Budapest, Prague and Krakow will end at the end of October, but we still don't know what is going to happen with Athens, Rome and others. Vasu Raja mentioned multiple times that they might make Rome almost year-round from ORD next year but he couldn't confirm anything yet.

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