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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:22 am

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I think Air Namibia's fleet should be 100% ERJs. Its cheaper and they can expand regionally with them. Does anyone know how is their WDH-FRA route doing?


WDH-FRA is usually half empty and is heavily loss-making. The A330-200 is too big and / or there is now too much competition. (I'm flying to Europe later today but I'm going with Qatar.) If the A321XLR had the legs (it doesn't) it might be a better option. Still better would be to forget Europe and focus on Africa.

Here are the details. Grim reading.

https://thepatriot.com.na/index.php/201 ... -disaster/



I’m actually shocked that JNB is losing money and DUR is one of their profitable routes. Would’ve guessed the exact opposite.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:48 am

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I think Air Namibia's fleet should be 100% ERJs. Its cheaper and they can expand regionally with them. Does anyone know how is their WDH-FRA route doing?


WDH-FRA is usually half empty and is heavily loss-making. The A330-200 is too big and / or there is now too much competition. (I'm flying to Europe later today but I'm going with Qatar.) If the A321XLR had the legs (it doesn't) it might be a better option. Still better would be to forget Europe and focus on Africa.

Here are the details. Grim reading.

https://thepatriot.com.na/index.php/201 ... -disaster/

They should get rid of the A330-200s. Condor provides direct services to WDH or Air Namibia can pick up passengers from JNB. Do they code share with SAA?
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:56 am

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Do they code share with SAA?

They do not.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:37 pm

It looks like SAA is gearing up to lease some A350s:

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/sa ... -strategy/
https://www.enca.com/business/saa-adds- ... -its-fleet

Anybody know more about this?
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:14 pm

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They are facing court cases in both Germany and Zimbabwe.

In Zimbabwe too? what's this about?
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:55 pm

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It looks like SAA is gearing up to lease some A350s:

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/sa ... -strategy/
https://www.enca.com/business/saa-adds- ... -its-fleet

Anybody know more about this?


They intend to replace their A346s on nonstop flights to New York from Johannesburg. A350 more efficient than the A346.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:10 pm

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It looks like SAA is gearing up to lease some A350s:

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/news/sa ... -strategy/
https://www.enca.com/business/saa-adds- ... -its-fleet

Anybody know more about this?


There’s a thread dedicated to the topic. It appears to be happening. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1425993
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:16 pm

An Air Austral flight Mayotte - Paris took off, forgetting two UM (5 and 8 years old) in the departure lounge.

The mum said:
"At the airport, the ground staff tried to make me believe that there was a problem with the Border Police. Then the hostess in charge of the UM finally confessed the truth: busy with other tasks, she had simply forgotten them ".

More info here (In French sorry):
https://la1ere.francetvinfo.fr/mayotte/ ... 26936.html
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Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:11 am

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They are facing court cases in both Germany and Zimbabwe.

In Zimbabwe too? what's this about?

If I remember rightly, a family from Zim went to WDH to fly to FRA but were denied boarding. I think Germany told Namibia they didn't want the family. Anyway, they are well-connected and, back in Zim, filed a case against Air Namibia for a million dollars or something. Air Namibia told them to get lost but now they fear their planes might be impounded in Zim. When I went to Victoria falls in September SW cancelled the outbound flight (I went via JNB and BA/Comair) and the return flight was operated for SW by Westair. I think in this case SW are innocent and it's a self-important Zim family throwing their weight around.
 
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Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:21 am

The CEO of Fastjet is stepping down and will take over as CEO of SAA's Mango subsidiary in September. Nico Bezuidenhout was part of the launch management team of Mango and has also served multiple times as Acting CEO of SAA itself. Mark Hurst will replace Nico at Fastjet.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fastjet ... SL4N2431J7

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/natio ... urnaround/

https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/c ... s-28420453
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:20 pm

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They are facing court cases in both Germany and Zimbabwe.

In Zimbabwe too? what's this about?

Some Zimbabwean family claimed they were racially discriminated against. I can't remember if it was in Namibia or Germany. But they almost had their aircraft seized.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:25 pm

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The CEO of Fastjet is stepping down and will take over as CEO of SAA's Mango subsidiary in September. Nico Bezuidenhout was part of the launch management team of Mango and has also served multiple times as Acting CEO of SAA itself. Mark Hurst will replace Nico at Fastjet.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fastjet ... SL4N2431J7

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/natio ... urnaround/

https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/c ... s-28420453

Do you think the fastjet model will work? I mean protectionism in Africa is real,so I personally don't see it working.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:42 pm

B747-437B wrote:
The CEO of Fastjet is stepping down and will take over as CEO of SAA's Mango subsidiary in September. Nico Bezuidenhout was part of the launch management team of Mango and has also served multiple times as Acting CEO of SAA itself. Mark Hurst will replace Nico at Fastjet.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fastjet ... SL4N2431J7

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/natio ... urnaround/

https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/c ... s-28420453


The clear end of Fastjet SA? Apparently in Tanzania, if a positive outcome will emerge from the governement, they might resume ops soon!
Is this cruising from troubles to troubles? Was there any project of Fly Africa or something similar that could at least stimulate the trans border competition (= Zim/Btw/Nam)?

Definitely, thanks a lot for the important news B747-437B, will watch out carefully the evolution of their works.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:46 am

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The clear end of Fastjet SA?


To the contrary. The fact that it will be Mark Hurst taking over (who is the brother of Paul Hurst, Group CEO of Solenta) shows that the focus is more likely to be on developing the Federal Air AOC for their South African operations.

As I wrote on the East African thread a few weeks ago :

Fastjet's structure today is very different than what it was in the Tanzania days. It is now around 60% owned by Solenta Group, so the focus has shifted away from the Airbus metal that Stelios and Co. preferred, towards Embraers which is Solenta's area of expertise. The medium term strategy is going to be expansion of the Fastjet brand into the SA domestic market with the E145s via the Federal Air AOC that they also control - trying to compete as an LCC in the niche that CemAir has exploited relatively successfully. That may be the only way they can survive.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:23 pm

SAA will codeshare with GOL in Brazil.

https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/i ... e-28718867
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:17 am

LAM Mozambican Airlines might start flight to LIS according to the President.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... -late-1q20
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:54 pm

Air Seychelles is to start serving Tel Aviv once-weekly from November, A320neo operating.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -nov-2019/

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:42 pm

South African Airways board Chairman has also resigned.

https://m.fin24.com/Economy/saa-board-c ... s-20190711
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:27 am

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South African Airways board Chairman has also resigned.

https://m.fin24.com/Economy/saa-board-c ... s-20190711

This is a clear indication of how dire the situation at SAA really is.
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:29 am

Government of South Africa confirms new bailout funds for SAA after CEO, Chairman resign over delays

https://www.moneyweb.co.za/news-fast-ne ... rman-quit/
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jul 20, 2019 1:27 am

I'm sure y'all have seen this but for those who didn't here it is. QR beginning 3× flights to Gaborone via JNB. Does anyone know whether QR has rights to pick up passengers for the JNB-GBE leg?

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... ps-in-4q19
 
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Sat Jul 20, 2019 2:20 am

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I'm sure y'all have seen this but for those who didn't here it is. QR beginning 3× flights to Gaborone via JNB. Does anyone know whether QR has rights to pick up passengers for the JNB-GBE leg?

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... ps-in-4q19

From the article you’ve posted:
Qatar Airways has no 5th Freedom rights on the Johannesburg-Gaborone and v.v sectors.


Some details of the schedule are at https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2019/

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:36 pm

:arrow: TAAG Angola suspends flights to Rio de Janeiro - Brazil. :shock:

Why will they axe flights to GIG, honestly?

According to the travel agents, this is due to the climate of violence and insecurity observed every day on the access road to this airport. Passengers prefer to board at Santos Dumont Airport (the second airport in Rio de Janeiro), where they run the least risk.


Is it true? Or any other factual reasons could influence the decision?

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:50 pm

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Government of South Africa confirms new bailout funds for SAA after CEO, Chairman resign over delays

https://www.moneyweb.co.za/news-fast-ne ... rman-quit/


Ohh dear! Clearly, who is dealing with all SAA issues right now?
How do you see SAA future, with or without A350 A/C?

The new immigration policy to South Africa might help to carry more pax as wealthy Saudia Arabia, Qatar and UAE citizens will have a visa free entrance to SA.
Too bad it won't directly benefit SAA ...
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:10 pm

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I'm sure y'all have seen this but for those who didn't here it is. QR beginning 3× flights to Gaborone via JNB. Does anyone know whether QR has rights to pick up passengers for the JNB-GBE leg?

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... ps-in-4q19


It operates on the days that jnb-dur doesn’t so I’m going to assume no pickup rights like jnb-dur
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:08 am

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mr02 wrote:
I'm sure y'all have seen this but for those who didn't here it is. QR beginning 3× flights to Gaborone via JNB. Does anyone know whether QR has rights to pick up passengers for the JNB-GBE leg?

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... ps-in-4q19


It operates on the days that jnb-dur doesn’t so I’m going to assume no pickup rights like jnb-dur

Indeed as posted above, no 5th Freedom rights:
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I'm sure y'all have seen this but for those who didn't here it is. QR beginning 3× flights to Gaborone via JNB. Does anyone know whether QR has rights to pick up passengers for the JNB-GBE leg?

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... ps-in-4q19

From the article you’ve posted:
Qatar Airways has no 5th Freedom rights on the Johannesburg-Gaborone and v.v sectors.


Some details of the schedule are at https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2019/

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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:14 am

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Government of South Africa confirms new bailout funds for SAA after CEO, Chairman resign over delays

https://www.moneyweb.co.za/news-fast-ne ... rman-quit/


Ohh dear! Clearly, who is dealing with all SAA issues right now?
How do you see SAA future, with or without A350 A/C?

The new immigration policy to South Africa might help to carry more pax as wealthy Saudia Arabia, Qatar and UAE citizens will have a visa free entrance to SA.
Too bad it won't directly benefit SAA ...

I'm interested to see whether Air Mauritius will take back the leased A359s from SAA in 3 years time.
 
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Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:52 am

Is it confirmed that MK will lease the 2 A350s to SA? Actually both aircrafts which are to be delivered to MK by the end of this year already have their tails in Air Mauritius' livery. This news was originally spread by media from Reunion island before being taken by other media. Neither Air Mauritius nor South African Airways have confirmed this.
 
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Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:11 am

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Is it confirmed that MK will lease the 2 A350s to SA? Actually both aircrafts which are to be delivered to MK by the end of this year already have their tails in Air Mauritius' livery. This news was originally spread by media from Reunion island before being taken by other media. Neither Air Mauritius nor South African Airways have confirmed this.

Some A350 tails come already painted in the airlines colours before assembly. Sri Lankan Airlines for example:

Image

They recently converted their direct A350 orders to A330neo, which according to some posters have been speculating that MK might be better off switching their A350 orders to the A330neo too.
 
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Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:58 pm

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Is it confirmed that MK will lease the 2 A350s to SA? Actually both aircrafts which are to be delivered to MK by the end of this year already have their tails in Air Mauritius' livery. This news was originally spread by media from Reunion island before being taken by other media. Neither Air Mauritius nor South African Airways have confirmed this.


The first two frames are not coming from MK.
 
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:13 am

Latam Brazil is replacing the 767-300ER with an A350-900 on GRU-JNB.

https://simpleflying.com/latam-johannes ... 0-flights/
 
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:50 am

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Latam Brazil is replacing the 767-300ER with an A350-900 on GRU-JNB.

https://simpleflying.com/latam-johannes ... 0-flights/


Great to hear!

Fantastic news for passengers for two reasons.

1. This move should make them more competitive against SAA by cutting their flight time down considerably. Being an A350, the LATAM flight should now be even faster than SAA with the A330.

2. Y capacity on LATAM will increase by over 60%! Probably not the best news for SAA though...

At the same time it's a little bitter sweet. Even though it's one more A350 flight, it's one less 767 flight to JNB...
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:31 am

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If Windhoek decides to shut Air Namibia down will it mean a duopoly between SA airlink and SA Express for SA or Namibian destinations?
 
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:39 pm

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If Windhoek decides to shut Air Namibia down will it mean a duopoly between SA airlink and SA Express for SA or Namibian destinations?


British Airways (i.e. Comair) fly once a day between JNB and WDH. Would they increase routes and frequencies if SW folded? Domestically, Westair http://westair.com.na/about-us.php want to get into the market.

If SW dropped Frankfurt (and they should), would anyone step in? QR, KL, and ET currently serve WDH long-haul.
 
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:03 pm

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British Airways (i.e. Comair) fly once a day between JNB and WDH. Would they increase routes and frequencies if SW folded? Domestically, Westair http://westair.com.na/about-us.php want to get into the market.

If SW dropped Frankfurt (and they should), would anyone step in? QR, KL, and ET currently serve WDH long-haul.


SAA used to operate 3x daily JNB-WDH-JNB, but this has been reduced to less than twice daily as we've seen the surge in capacity from KL, QR and ET. If SW exit, I'd expect to see SA return to 3x daily. Airlink (SA code) operate 1x daily CPT-WDH-JNB with an ERJ135, but this capacity could be increased to an ERJ190.

I wouldn't expect anyone to step in to cover the long haul capacity since there is probably an overcapacity in the market and likely part of SW's demise.
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:47 am

How's the runway work at BLZ (Blantyre) going? Wasn't it supposed to reopen to jet aircraft on July 24?
 
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How's the runway work at BLZ (Blantyre) going? Wasn't it supposed to reopen to jet aircraft on July 24?


The work has barely started. Supposedly most of the construction materials were "washed away" in heavy rains and they do not have budget to acquire new ones. So the main runway will probably remain closed into 2020 or longer while they sort that out. Official position is that the work will end in September now, but whether that means the work will be completed or they will just reopen the potholed runway is yet to be determined.
 
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South African Airways (SAA) is further strengthening its presence in Ghana by increasing weekly frequencies from 9 to 10 flights between Johannesburg and Accra, and by launching a daily service between Accra and Washington DC, with effect from 5th September 2019. These two additional weekly services to Washington DC provide SAA’s most convenient schedule yet between Ghana and North America, and will also deliver seamless connections for customers from across West Africa. This includes connections to/from Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria; to/from Monrovia in Liberia; and to/from Freetown in Sierra Leone. This important strategic milestone has been made possible through SAA’s growing co-operation and partnership with Africa World Airlines (AWA).

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading ... s/newsroom

Africa World Airlines (AWA) is further strengthening its regional presence in West Africa by increasing flights between Accra and both Freetown and Monrovia to daily services effective from 5th September 2019. The new flights will provide daily seamless connections to/from South African Airways' (SAA) newly announced additional flights to Washington DC via Accra, as well as to Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/africa-w ... 12288-IC1C
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:08 pm

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Pagophilus wrote:
How's the runway work at BLZ (Blantyre) going? Wasn't it supposed to reopen to jet aircraft on July 24?


The work has barely started. Supposedly most of the construction materials were "washed away" in heavy rains and they do not have budget to acquire new ones. So the main runway will probably remain closed into 2020 or longer while they sort that out. Official position is that the work will end in September now, but whether that means the work will be completed or they will just reopen the potholed runway is yet to be determined.


I'd like to say I'm surprised....

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Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:25 pm

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Is it confirmed that MK will lease the 2 A350s to SA? Actually both aircrafts which are to be delivered to MK by the end of this year already have their tails in Air Mauritius' livery. This news was originally spread by media from Reunion island before being taken by other media. Neither Air Mauritius nor South African Airways have confirmed this.

The A350 production site has changed delivery of MK3 and MK4 to SAA now.

https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbpr ... ction-list

Not a 100% confirmed source I know, but the A350 production site is usually quite reliable.
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:16 pm

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mr02 wrote:
Latam Brazil is replacing the 767-300ER with an A350-900 on GRU-JNB.

https://simpleflying.com/latam-johannes ... 0-flights/


Great to hear!

Fantastic news for passengers for two reasons.

1. This move should make them more competitive against SAA by cutting their flight time down considerably. Being an A350, the LATAM flight should now be even faster than SAA with the A330.

2. Y capacity on LATAM will increase by over 60%! Probably not the best news for SAA though...

At the same time it's a little bitter sweet. Even though it's one more A350 flight, it's one less 767 flight to JNB...


Not just an A350 vs A330 speed comparison, but the B763 takes a much longer and indirect route because of ETOPS. Look it up on FlightRadar and compare it to that of SA. SA is an easy target for its competitors it seems.

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South African Airways (SAA) is further strengthening its presence in Ghana by increasing weekly frequencies from 9 to 10 flights between Johannesburg and Accra, and by launching a daily service between Accra and Washington DC, with effect from 5th September 2019. These two additional weekly services to Washington DC provide SAA’s most convenient schedule yet between Ghana and North America, and will also deliver seamless connections for customers from across West Africa. This includes connections to/from Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria; to/from Monrovia in Liberia; and to/from Freetown in Sierra Leone. This important strategic milestone has been made possible through SAA’s growing co-operation and partnership with Africa World Airlines (AWA).

https://www.flysaa.com/about-us/leading ... s/newsroom

Africa World Airlines (AWA) is further strengthening its regional presence in West Africa by increasing flights between Accra and both Freetown and Monrovia to daily services effective from 5th September 2019. The new flights will provide daily seamless connections to/from South African Airways' (SAA) newly announced additional flights to Washington DC via Accra, as well as to Abuja and Lagos in Nigeria.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/africa-w ... 12288-IC1C


Pre-empting the entry of ET into the Ghana local airspace perhaps. I would expect, especially with an established route, for ET to get in on the ACC-IAD market at some point.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:40 pm

From Avcom

Just heard that SAA pilot training is happening for new A350 aircraft in Miami in October. Some pilots have already headed to Toulouse this week. Initially 2 x A350 will be leased from Airbus that were originally going to be leased to TAM. There is possibility of further aircraft from Hainan. Will feature Business, Premium economy and economy. Aircraft will primarily be utilised on the JFK route. If more aircraft arrive then they may use them on Asia routes.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:47 pm

Increasing reports that Air Namibia may be close to shutting down, though (of course) the airline denies it. Very curious to see if it happens or not. I'll be so sad to see my national airline go if it turns out to be true.

https://www.namibian.com.na/81797/read/ ... ng-closure
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:29 pm

berari wrote:
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mr02 wrote:
Latam Brazil is replacing the 767-300ER with an A350-900 on GRU-JNB.

https://simpleflying.com/latam-johannes ... 0-flights/


Great to hear!

Fantastic news for passengers for two reasons.

1. This move should make them more competitive against SAA by cutting their flight time down considerably. Being an A350, the LATAM flight should now be even faster than SAA with the A330.

2. Y capacity on LATAM will increase by over 60%! Probably not the best news for SAA though...

At the same time it's a little bitter sweet. Even though it's one more A350 flight, it's one less 767 flight to JNB...


Not just an A350 vs A330 speed comparison, but the B763 takes a much longer and indirect route because of ETOPS. Look it up on FlightRadar and compare it to that of SA. SA is an easy target for its competitors it seems.


Yep, that is exactly what I was referring to with "cutting their flight time down considerably".

I always enjoyed tracking the SAA and LATAM flights. One of the best examples of the value of ETOPS.

My reference to the A330 vs A350 is that given they always lagged behind SAA on the route (time-wise), it's ironic that they will now have a flight time that is slightly less than SAA.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:39 pm

MoKa777 wrote:
My reference to the A330 vs A350 is that given they always lagged behind SAA on the route (time-wise), it's ironic that they will now have a flight time that is slightly less than SAA.


I beg to differ. Only twice over ten segments has LA been quicker than JJ. Just because the A350 can cruise faster than the A330 it doesn't mean it will. It's been as much as 30 minutes slower. Here are the flight times over the past week:

JNB-GRU SA LA
8/8 9:38
8/7 10:06
8/6 10:01 10:01
8/5 9:58 10:00
8/4 10:04 10:13
8/3 10:17 10:10
8/2 10:13 10:26

GRU-JNB SA LA
8/7 7:53
8/6 7:46
8/5 7:39 8:06
8/4 7:47 8:08
8/3 7:55 7:55
8/2 7:49 7:42
8/1 7:38 7:32
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:16 pm

evanb wrote:
MoKa777 wrote:
My reference to the A330 vs A350 is that given they always lagged behind SAA on the route (time-wise), it's ironic that they will now have a flight time that is slightly less than SAA.


I beg to differ. Only twice over ten segments has LA been quicker than JJ. Just because the A350 can cruise faster than the A330 it doesn't mean it will. It's been as much as 30 minutes slower. Here are the flight times over the past week:

JNB-GRU SA LA
8/8 9:38
8/7 10:06
8/6 10:01 10:01
8/5 9:58 10:00
8/4 10:04 10:13
8/3 10:17 10:10
8/2 10:13 10:26

GRU-JNB SA LA
8/7 7:53
8/6 7:46
8/5 7:39 8:06
8/4 7:47 8:08
8/3 7:55 7:55
8/2 7:49 7:42
8/1 7:38 7:32



I suspect LATAM only has 180min for their new A350’s. This will more than likely improve as the fleet matures and their regulator approves Beyond 180.

SAA’s A330 are already approved for Beyond 180min hence the quicker SAA time even though the A330 is slower.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:19 pm

Balerit wrote:
From Avcom

Just heard that SAA pilot training is happening for new A350 aircraft in Miami in October. Some pilots have already headed to Toulouse this week. Initially 2 x A350 will be leased from Airbus that were originally going to be leased to TAM. There is possibility of further aircraft from Hainan. Will feature Business, Premium economy and economy. Aircraft will primarily be utilised on the JFK route. If more aircraft arrive then they may use them on Asia routes.

SAA doesn't have premium economy as a class unless they want to unveil it when the first aircraft arrives.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:20 am

mr02 wrote:
Balerit wrote:
From Avcom

Just heard that SAA pilot training is happening for new A350 aircraft in Miami in October. Some pilots have already headed to Toulouse this week. Initially 2 x A350 will be leased from Airbus that were originally going to be leased to TAM. There is possibility of further aircraft from Hainan. Will feature Business, Premium economy and economy. Aircraft will primarily be utilised on the JFK route. If more aircraft arrive then they may use them on Asia routes.

SAA doesn't have premium economy as a class unless they want to unveil it when the first aircraft arrives.


Hainan machines (MSN 226/246) already configured with premium economy.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:29 am

T54A wrote:
mr02 wrote:
Balerit wrote:
From Avcom


SAA doesn't have premium economy as a class unless they want to unveil it when the first aircraft arrives.


Hainan machines (MSN 226/246) already configured with premium economy.

But SAA are leasing them from MK,no?

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