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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:29 am

T54A wrote:
mr02 wrote:
Balerit wrote:
From Avcom


SAA doesn't have premium economy as a class unless they want to unveil it when the first aircraft arrives.


Hainan machines (MSN 226/246) already configured with premium economy.

But SAA are leasing them from MK,no?
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 1:58 am

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But SAA are leasing them from MK,no?


There were talks of two more from Hainan - not sure if that's been finalised/confirmed yet.
 
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Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:25 am

mr02 wrote:
T54A wrote:
mr02 wrote:
SAA doesn't have premium economy as a class unless they want to unveil it when the first aircraft arrives.


Hainan machines (MSN 226/246) already configured with premium economy.

But SAA are leasing them from MK,no?


Two from Hainan and two from Air Mauritius
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:07 pm

mr02 wrote:
T54A wrote:
mr02 wrote:
SAA doesn't have premium economy as a class unless they want to unveil it when the first aircraft arrives.


Hainan machines (MSN 226/246) already configured with premium economy.

But SAA are leasing them from MK,no?


That is the only info I have at the moment.
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:10 pm

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How's the runway work at BLZ (Blantyre) going? Wasn't it supposed to reopen to jet aircraft on July 24?


Flew into BLZ today and it looks like they were actually working on it today. But only moving earth and piling base materials. No way it gets finished by September.

Gave them a reason to repaint the lines on 14/33 though.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:24 pm

According to this article:

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... rev=search

the 737 MAX is out of the picture for Air Mauritius' short-haul fleet renewal and it is going to be a choice between the Airbus A320neo, A220 and Embarer E190-E2 (which is apparently the favourite) .
 
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Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:05 pm

Air Mauritius have received their first refurbished A340 with some photos posted onto their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/AirMauritius/p ... 8351953820
 
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Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:58 pm

Breathe wrote:
Air Mauritius have received their first refurbished A340 with some photos posted onto their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/AirMauritius/p ... 8351953820


Flying them to TNR tomorrow (in business) and I seem to be relegated to an A330-200 when every other flight this week is A340, A350 or or A330neo :(
 
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Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:01 pm

Breathe wrote:
Air Mauritius have received their first refurbished A340 with some photos posted onto their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/AirMauritius/p ... 8351953820


[Speaks loudly hoping SAA will hear] Wow an African airline refurbishing and updating its older aircraft interiors....
 
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Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:53 pm

dredgy wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Air Mauritius have received their first refurbished A340 with some photos posted onto their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/AirMauritius/p ... 8351953820


Flying them to TNR tomorrow (in business) and I seem to be relegated to an A330-200 when every other flight this week is A340, A350 or or A330neo :(

Tomorrow's flight (18.08.19) to be operated by an A330neo (3B-NBV)
 
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Sun Aug 18, 2019 4:12 am

3BNBE wrote:
dredgy wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Air Mauritius have received their first refurbished A340 with some photos posted onto their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/AirMauritius/p ... 8351953820


Flying them to TNR tomorrow (in business) and I seem to be relegated to an A330-200 when every other flight this week is A340, A350 or or A330neo :(

Tomorrow's flight (18.08.19) to be operated by an A330neo (3B-NBV)


Yup, just got that update. Psyched!
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:34 am

dredgy wrote:
3BNBE wrote:
dredgy wrote:

Flying them to TNR tomorrow (in business) and I seem to be relegated to an A330-200 when every other flight this week is A340, A350 or or A330neo :(

Tomorrow's flight (18.08.19) to be operated by an A330neo (3B-NBV)


Yup, just got that update. Psyched!


Are you Ex-FAOR, seems you are getting the A359 then 3B-NBQ
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:12 am

Superboi wrote:
dredgy wrote:
3BNBE wrote:
Tomorrow's flight (18.08.19) to be operated by an A330neo (3B-NBV)


Yup, just got that update. Psyched!


Are you Ex-FAOR, seems you are getting the A359 then 3B-NBQ


A350 works too. I’m in the lounge and still unsure! Plane was just towed to the gate but missed what it was

Edit: Ex MRU
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:21 pm

Guys is Comair genuinely part of British airways or they are an independent company representing BA in South Africa? My friend and I were arguing about it lol
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:17 pm

Independent company operating under franchise.
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:35 pm

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Independent company operating under franchise.



Thanks
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Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:45 pm

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Guys is Comair genuinely part of British airways or they are an independent company representing BA in South Africa? My friend and I were arguing about it lol


BA does own part of Comair though. It's a small stake.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:55 pm

Air Mauritius adds five weekly flights between Port Louis and Cape Town

https://newsaero.info/airlines/2076

in a WB?
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:30 am

Breathe wrote:
Air Mauritius have received their first refurbished A340 with some photos posted onto their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/AirMauritius/p ... 8351953820


It looks nice enough, although I’ll miss the green seats with the thick padding.

The IFE, not so much.

chrisfrommalawi wrote:
[Speaks loudly hoping SAA will hear] Wow an African airline refurbishing and updating its older aircraft interiors....


Isn’t SA upgrading interiors on their A340’s? New business class in 1-2-1?
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:12 pm

Here a interesting read that popped up.
https://m.fin24.com/Companies/TravelAnd ... a-20190830
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:53 am

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Here a interesting read that popped up.
https://m.fin24.com/Companies/TravelAnd ... a-20190830


All completely true! Utterly disgusting...
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:15 am

Seems SAA has downgraded JNB - ACC/ABJ (SA056/057) to an A320. Is the A320 able to do ACC without penalties?
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:55 am

qm001 wrote:
mr02 wrote:
Here a interesting read that popped up.
https://m.fin24.com/Companies/TravelAnd ... a-20190830


All completely true! Utterly disgusting...


Except the part that EK uses their oldest and most dated aircraft to JNB...they have 2 daily A380 and 2 daily 77W.
 
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Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:03 am

Superboi wrote:
Seems SAA has downgraded JNB - ACC/ABJ (SA056/057) to an A320. Is the A320 able to do ACC without penalties?


No, there is a small payload penalty tradeoff on the northbound flight but not so much as to make it unviable.
 
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Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:18 pm

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[Speaks loudly hoping SAA will hear] Wow an African airline refurbishing and updating its older aircraft interiors....


With what money?

DexSwart wrote:
Isn’t SA upgrading interiors on their A340’s? New business class in 1-2-1?


Nope
 
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Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:43 pm

Frankly, the time has come for the SA Govt to either completely privatise SA, and assume the debt on the books, or, let it die. Until this happens, it will continue to be a national embarrassment, and a complete shell of its former glory. Now, if said government managed to turn SA from a proud money making carrier, into a complete pile of dog turd, can you imagine the state of SA's other state owned enterprises! This gives everyone a sneak peak into the colossal incompetence in government, and incredibly, brings even bigger shame on SA.
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Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:01 pm

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Frankly, the time has come for the SA Govt to either completely privatise SA, and assume the debt on the books, or, let it die. Until this happens, it will continue to be a national embarrassment, and a complete shell of its former glory. Now, if said government managed to turn SA from a proud money making carrier, into a complete pile of dog turd, can you imagine the state of SA's other state owned enterprises! This gives everyone a sneak peak into the colossal incompetence in government, and incredibly, brings even bigger shame on SA.


I agree SAA has to be privatized. I also understand what the SA government is trying to do. The want to return it into profitability first before privatizing it. Unfortunately the government bureaucracy outweighs their desire. So they may reach a time where they have no choice but to sell it 'as is'.

I don't know if you have flown SAA recently but living in Botswana and SA for the first half of my life, and now in Malawi. SAA has always been my main carrier. And I find their service to be absolutely impeccable. The drama in the boardroom hardly affects the service in the sky. Even though their aircraft are old I still prefer to fly them over ET cause for me there is just no competition. I have tried KQ as well. They are better than ET but SA service still shines. This is comparing African carriers only.

Is it a shell of its former glory, in some ways yes, less routes, no longer continually improving their fleet, their finances are a mess. But what they do in the sky, they do right, it's still a company South Africans should be proud of. And by no means a turd.
 
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Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:40 pm

Looks like SAA was saved from business rescue.
https://city-press.news24.com/News/gord ... e-20190831
 
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Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:12 am

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I agree SAA has to be privatized. I also understand what the SA government is trying to do. The want to return it into profitability first before privatizing it. Unfortunately the government bureaucracy outweighs their desire. So they may reach a time where they have no choice but to sell it 'as is'.

I don't know if you have flown SAA recently but living in Botswana and SA for the first half of my life, and now in Malawi. SAA has always been my main carrier. And I find their service to be absolutely impeccable. The drama in the boardroom hardly affects the service in the sky. Even though their aircraft are old I still prefer to fly them over ET cause for me there is just no competition. I have tried KQ as well. They are better than ET but SA service still shines. This is comparing African carriers only.

Is it a shell of its former glory, in some ways yes, less routes, no longer continually improving their fleet, their finances are a mess. But what they do in the sky, they do right, it's still a company South Africans should be proud of. And by no means a turd.


My experiences of SA, both LH and SH over the past 10 years, have been iffy at best. No hard product consistency, soft product is good, but not consistent either. Yes, ET lacks that certain finesse that SA does have right, but from a fleet and network perspective, that knock SA dead. I've flown MS, ET, KQ, SA and BA/MN and honestly, ET was the most consistent. You never have a dream flight, but its always the same, and their offering is never lacking, its always enough! At half the price, sometimes less, up front, I can't justify SA, ever!

With regards the SA Govt, they should be ashamed! They couldn't manage their way out of a wet paper bag, and have run it into the ground. SA needed to be privatised 20 years ago, hell, even 10 years ago, anything they do now, is just putting a band-aid on a GSW. Too little, too late. They will not, and have not learned how to play this game, and never will. Shut it down, or sell as is, and hope someone else can do a better job.

If ET can manage, then so can SA, there is just no excuse. I cannot be proud of SA! You can put all the lipstick you like on it, it's still a very sick pig!
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:03 am

Interesting (perhaps) developments at Air Namibia.

https://www.namibian.com.na/82750/read/ ... ir-Namibia
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:55 pm

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https://www.namibian.com.na/82750/read/Airlines-eye-stake-in-Air-Namibia


While I loved every flight I've had with Air Namibia (hot damn, they served bobotie!), and wouldn't want to see them go under, I'm not sure SAA is in a position to invest in an airline that exists mostly to support the Namibian tourism industry.
 
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Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:37 pm

Looks like SAA is in search of a new Chief Restructuring Officer.https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/natio ... ound-boss/
 
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Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:39 am

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Looks like SAA is in search of a new Chief Restructuring Officer.https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/natio ... ound-boss/


The CRO position is currently filled by Peter Davies (who has a stellar track record of turning around other basket case national airlines - he led SABENA's turnaround into Brussels Airlines, and BWIA's transformation into Carribean Airlines).

Unfortunately, for health reasons Peter has had to work remotely from the UK primarily so a full time CRO is being recruited to be on the ground in Johannesburg when his contract ends. Peter has a solid team of veterans from his previous projects who are already working with SAA as the "Office of the CRO", so the expertise will still be there. Peter will also remain an adviser to the board.

It is a very different situation from Vuyani's departure in June which was primarily due to friction with DPE over the shareholder's commitment to the LTTS jointly conceived by Vuyani and Peter's team.

Of course, anything the CRO does is meaningless unless the stakeholders actually support and implement it. That's where the real problem at SAA has been historically, not with the lack of ideas or strategy.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:15 pm

As of 7th October Westair will be flying Windhoek-Cape Town. Excitingly, the flights will be from the downtown Eros airport and not the international airport miles out of town. ERJ145 equipment. No link yet. I just got an e-mail from my travel agent.
 
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Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:41 pm

PM wrote:
As of 7th October Westair will be flying Windhoek-Cape Town. Excitingly, the flights will be from the downtown Eros airport and not the international airport miles out of town. ERJ145 equipment. No link yet. I just got an e-mail from my travel agent.


This is great news. I know many people who fly regularly between CPT and WDH. The flights should prove popular.
 
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Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:00 pm

https://www.namibian.com.na/83227/read/ ... 16-billion

Air Namibia looking for a hand-out. N$1.6Bn is about US$110,000,000.
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:31 pm

Just one question for those who may know...

- Why did Air Tanzania suspend the 3 months old flight DAR - JNB yesterday the (6/9/19), whereas RwandAir, now fly twice daily to these two destinations with much less population in the capital for at least 8 years. WB product or FF is nothing to write home about it?
https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/news/18403 ... index.html

Does Tanzania should choose only one girlfriend like EAC or SADC?
What prompted officials to stop this international route so quickly?



PM wrote:
https://www.namibian.com.na/83227/read/Air-Namibia-wants-N$16-billion

Air Namibia looking for a hand-out. N$1.6Bn is about US$110,000,000.

It would be nice to read the outcome!
Most tourists ponder if they should book or not with Air Namidia!
What do you think about the situation for the coming months until and after Xmax and NY? :scratchchin:
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Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:00 am

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PM wrote:
https://www.namibian.com.na/83227/read/Air-Namibia-wants-N$16-billion

Air Namibia looking for a hand-out. N$1.6Bn is about US$110,000,000.

It would be nice to read the outcome!
Most tourists ponder if they should book or not with Air Namibia!
What do you think about the situation for the coming months until and after Xmax and NY? :scratchchin:

Personally, I wouldn't risk it. I live in Windhoek and most people I know try to avoid booking through Air Namibia. Flights are routinely cancelled and their sales service is appalling. It's the old story. It's a parastatal. Employees believe it exists to provide them with salaries, not to provide a service to the customer.

I'm sending a dozen employees to Cape Town next month. Air Namibia would be cheaper but I can't risk that the flight will be cancelled so they are going on flyWestair.

I hope the government closes down Air Namibia. Westair (and others?) will quickly fill the gap.
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:10 am

PM wrote:
eastafspot wrote:


PM wrote:
https://www.namibian.com.na/83227/read/Air-Namibia-wants-N$16-billion

Air Namibia looking for a hand-out. N$1.6Bn is about US$110,000,000.

It would be nice to read the outcome!
Most tourists ponder if they should book or not with Air Namibia!
What do you think about the situation for the coming months until and after Xmax and NY? :scratchchin:

Personally, I wouldn't risk it. I live in Windhoek and most people I know try to avoid booking through Air Namibia. Flights are routinely cancelled and their sales service is appalling. It's the old story. It's a parastatal. Employees believe it exists to provide them with salaries, not to provide a service to the customer.

I'm sending a dozen employees to Cape Town next month. Air Namibia would be cheaper but I can't risk that the flight will be cancelled so they are going on flyWestair.

I hope the government closes down Air Namibia. Westair (and others?) will quickly fill the gap.


Shame. I used Air Namibia several times a few years back from LUN (to WDH and ACC) and found their on-board product / service to be great value. Flight schedules were also convenient. Would be interesting to see who steps in if/when it goes belly up.
 
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bmagee wrote:
Shame. I used Air Namibia several times a few years back from LUN (to WDH and ACC) and found their on-board product / service to be great value. Flight schedules were also convenient.

Agreed. To Frankfurt, either in economy or business, they are nothing special but regionally their on board product isn't bad.

bmagee wrote:
Would be interesting to see who steps in if/when it goes belly up.
In and out of Namibia there are several reliable options. SAA (obviously and despite their own problems), a daily BA flight to and from JNB, TAAG to LUN. Long-haul, Qatar (the best), Ethiopian (also very good), and KLM fly most days. The only real hole SW would leave would be some domestic routes and I'm guessing that Westair will move quickly to take those over.
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:41 am

PM wrote:
eastafspot wrote:


PM wrote:
https://www.namibian.com.na/83227/read/Air-Namibia-wants-N$16-billion

Air Namibia looking for a hand-out. N$1.6Bn is about US$110,000,000.

It would be nice to read the outcome!
Most tourists ponder if they should book or not with Air Namibia!
What do you think about the situation for the coming months until and after Xmax and NY? :scratchchin:

Personally, I wouldn't risk it. I live in Windhoek and most people I know try to avoid booking through Air Namibia. Flights are routinely cancelled and their sales service is appalling. It's the old story. It's a parastatal. Employees believe it exists to provide them with salaries, not to provide a service to the customer.

I'm sending a dozen employees to Cape Town next month. Air Namibia would be cheaper but I can't risk that the flight will be cancelled so they are going on flyWestair.

I hope the government closes down Air Namibia. Westair (and others?) will quickly fill the gap.

Isnt Westair more of a charter airline?
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:18 pm

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PM wrote:
eastafspot wrote:



It would be nice to read the outcome!
Most tourists ponder if they should book or not with Air Namibia!
What do you think about the situation for the coming months until and after Xmax and NY? :scratchchin:

Personally, I wouldn't risk it. I live in Windhoek and most people I know try to avoid booking through Air Namibia. Flights are routinely cancelled and their sales service is appalling. It's the old story. It's a parastatal. Employees believe it exists to provide them with salaries, not to provide a service to the customer.

I'm sending a dozen employees to Cape Town next month. Air Namibia would be cheaper but I can't risk that the flight will be cancelled so they are going on flyWestair.

I hope the government closes down Air Namibia. Westair (and others?) will quickly fill the gap.

Isnt Westair more of a charter airline?


It's a broad-based aviation services company but it has seen the opportunity and is moving into scheduled ops.

https://www.namibian.com.na/191205/arch ... or-economy

https://neweralive.na/posts/flywestair- ... -cape-town

I wish them well. If they get this right it could be a huge success.
 
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Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:48 pm

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Why did Air Tanzania suspend the 3 months old flight DAR - JNB yesterday


Supposedly this step has been taken to protect innocent Tanzanian passengers from xenophobic violence that they may become random victims of in case they travel to Johannesburg.

“You are aware that there is ongoing violence in South Africa whereby the youth have taken laws in their hands,” Tanzania’s Transport Minister Isack Kamwelwe told journalists in Dar es Salaam. “Due to that, we have decided not to transport passengers to the destination where their lives will be in jeopardy.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/wef-afr ... SL5N25W57A
 
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Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:17 am

PM wrote:
I'm sending a dozen employees to Cape Town next month. Air Namibia would be cheaper but I can't risk that the flight will be cancelled so they are going on flyWestair.

I hope the government closes down Air Namibia. Westair (and others?) will quickly fill the gap.

For sure, you might be right, but Westair can only help you in the short term period - what's wrong with SAA?
So far, how are they reliable and well estabished?

B747-437B wrote:
Supposedly this step has been taken to protect innocent Tanzanian passengers from xenophobic violence that they may become random victims of in case they travel to Johannesburg.

“You are aware that there is ongoing violence in South Africa whereby the youth have taken laws in their hands,” Tanzania’s Transport Minister Isack Kamwelwe told journalists in Dar es Salaam. “Due to that, we have decided not to transport passengers to the destination where their lives will be in jeopardy.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/wef-afr ... SL5N25W57A


Even yourself don't buy to this lame excuse lol!
You definitely know more than us, seriously!
Obviously, Nigerians and then Congoleses (RDC) are among the first illegal population in SA, and then neighbouring countries!
Except figures, what can explain this sudden decision?
Fly with Air Burundi, Air Tanzania, Golden Wings Aviation, Kenya Airways, RwandAir and Uganda Airlines...Jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki !
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:56 am

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For sure, you might be right, but Westair can only help you in the short term period - what's wrong with SAA?
So far, how are they reliable and well estabished?


To be honest, I don't know how reliable Westair are going to be but I'm prepared to give them a chance. SAA were just too expensive on that route. Anyway, they have their own issues...
 
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Re: Southern African & Indian Ocean Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:14 pm

But SAA are leasing them from MK,no?


According to this article they are https://simpleflying.com/saa-airbus-a350-air-mauritius/

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