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Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:03 am

Delta service becomes bookable to Atlanta starting May 24 and seems to be a year-round destination. The Aircraft is an E175, looks to be 3x daily through the year.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:11 am

Great news for Hilton Head. I've seen this route rumored around a lot on here, so I guess it's finally happening.

The schedule appears to be:

ATL-HHH:
9:40 AM - 10:45 AM
4:20 PM - 5:25 PM
7:50 PM - 8:55 PM

HHH-ATL:
7:30 AM - 8:40 AM
11:10 AM - 12:20 PM
5:55 PM - 7:05 PM
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:17 am

I thought they didn't have E175s at ATL. Or am I mistaken?
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:18 am

Makes great sense with the runway extension but does this threaten UA's big entrance with IAD 3x and EWR/ORD on the weekends?

Might DL now consider other AA monopolies in the Southeast like Lynchburg (VA) or Florence (SC)?

There is quite a bit of capacity being added to HHH from 3x AA E75 to that plus 3-4x daily E70/CR2 from UA, AA to DCA on weekends(?) and now DL.

And you're right about no E75s at ATL. I looked through there January timetable and found nothing. Perhaps they'll have to rotate some in from DTW through some place like TYS, FNT, CHO, ROA. I can't imagine them flying them in through ORF from BOS/NYC but perhaps something complex unless they add a weekend DTW-HHH and use one plane throughout the week flying only HHH-ATL-HHH-ATL-HHH-ATL-HHH.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:25 am

I’m amazed they don’t already fly that route with ATL being so close(in flight time). Is there a reason they don’t already fly there?
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:25 am

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I thought they didn't have E175s at ATL. Or am I mistaken?


We dont have any at the moment. This might be the first E170/175 flights in Atl under the Delta brand. We’ve had E170/175 lines marking at the gates for years. I was wondering when they will finally show up.
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Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:29 am

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I’m amazed they don’t already fly that route with ATL being so close(in flight time). Is there a reason they don’t already fly there?


I think they just did runway work to make these possible. Ie why we see airlines rushing in.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:31 am

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dbo861 wrote:
I thought they didn't have E175s at ATL. Or am I mistaken?


We dont have any at the moment. This might be the first E170/175 flights in Atl under the Delta brand. We’ve had E170/175 lines marking at the gates for years. I was wondering when they will finally show up.


I flew ATL-CMH twice on E-jets in 2008 back in that weird era where there was hardly mainline on the route at all, once each on an E70 and E75.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:32 am

FLYKTPA wrote:
I’m amazed they don’t already fly that route with ATL being so close(in flight time). Is there a reason they don’t already fly there?


The runway restrictions that were recently removed with an extension prevented DL from operating there after the retirement of their (ATR?) turboprops. DL operated there until maybe 2007-8 with the ATR42 operated by Atlantic Southeast.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:36 am

DeltaRules wrote:
Deltran757 wrote:
dbo861 wrote:
I thought they didn't have E175s at ATL. Or am I mistaken?


We dont have any at the moment. This might be the first E170/175 flights in Atl under the Delta brand. We’ve had E170/175 lines marking at the gates for years. I was wondering when they will finally show up.


I flew ATL-CMH twice on E-jets in 2008 back in that weird era where there was hardly mainline on the route at all, once each on an E70 and E75.


Thanks for the info. I never knew that, but i’ve always thought it was weird to see the line markings with no current flights.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:47 am

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but does this threaten UA's big entrance with IAD 3x and EWR/ORD on the weekends?

If anyone's threatened by this, it's SAV.

Be interesting to see if/how that market responds.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:56 am

I flew ATL-MEM on a Shuttle America E170 in 2007. But they are a very rare site in ATL. It's a shame they give their ATL customers the shaft. The E170/175 is the most comfortable aircraft in the fleet.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:36 am

Deltran757 wrote:
DeltaRules wrote:
Deltran757 wrote:

We dont have any at the moment. This might be the first E170/175 flights in Atl under the Delta brand. We’ve had E170/175 lines marking at the gates for years. I was wondering when they will finally show up.


I flew ATL-CMH twice on E-jets in 2008 back in that weird era where there was hardly mainline on the route at all, once each on an E70 and E75.


Thanks for the info. I never knew that, but i’ve always thought it was weird to see the line markings with no current flights.


S5 had a decently large operation at ATL in that time period. I flew them a bunch to MDW. They were all 170 IINM; the E75s were RW (now YX).
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:00 am

DL left HHH the first time in around 2007 when they retired the ATRs.

They returned in 2009 with the Mesaba SF3’s from the NW merger when they moved a small base of them to ATL and for most of the time they were in NW Airlink colors.

They left again when the Saab’s were retired in what 2011/12 I’m forgetting the exact year now.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:02 am

Really? Part of the reason that ATL saw so few E170s was because they up gauged so much regional flying to 717/319 sized aircraft. Much of the E70/E75 was moved to competitive coastal markets that didn’t need the capacity of 717s
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:43 am

Is there an official announcement anywhere? I can’t find one...
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:46 am

No, but there will probably be one this week.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:05 am

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
DL left HHH the first time in around 2007 when they retired the ATRs.

They returned in 2009 with the Mesaba SF3’s from the NW merger when they moved a small base of them to ATL and for most of the time they were in NW Airlink colors.

They left again when the Saab’s were retired in what 2011/12 I’m forgetting the exact year now.


The last time DL was there was late 2010.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:08 am

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I flew ATL-MEM on a Shuttle America E170 in 2007. But they are a very rare site in ATL. It's a shame they give their ATL customers the shaft. The E170/175 is the most comfortable aircraft in the fleet.


ATL doesn't get the shaft. ATL gets mainline, with mainline pilot experience and reliability. Point to another carrier's U.S. hub op with more than 400 flights a day that has a higher % of mainline ops.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:11 am

Might this be the start of some of the new 70 seat 175 flying?

Would love to see YOW-ATL return 1-2x daily on the E75.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:17 am

Curious about how the HHH terminal will handle all this traffic … these EMB175s (possibly more than one at a time) are a YUGE step up over a single Dash 8-100 load of pax in that terminal!
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:27 am

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Curious about how the HHH terminal will handle all this traffic … these EMB175s (possibly more than one at a time) are a YUGE step up over a single Dash 8-100 load of pax in that terminal!


Actually, It was A Dash 8 Q300 for most of the time. But, I think they are planning to build a terminal.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:28 am

Wynnster8 wrote:
F27500 wrote:
Curious about how the HHH terminal will handle all this traffic … these EMB175s (possibly more than one at a time) are a YUGE step up over a single Dash 8-100 load of pax in that terminal!


Actually, It was A Dash 8 Q300 for most of the time. But, I think they are planning to build a terminal.


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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:45 am

dbo861 wrote:
I thought they didn't have E175s at ATL. Or am I mistaken?


DL web site shows E170's on the route.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:49 am

More like coming back to Hilton Head. Wasn't that long ago they left.

Looks like UA's entry and AA's expansion forced DL's hand to return to HHH. Also marks the return of DL E-jets to ATL.
 
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Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:50 am

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Makes great sense with the runway extension but does this threaten UA's big entrance with IAD 3x and EWR/ORD on the weekends?

Might DL now consider other AA monopolies in the Southeast like Lynchburg (VA) or Florence (SC)?

There is quite a bit of capacity being added to HHH from 3x AA E75 to that plus 3-4x daily E70/CR2 from UA, AA to DCA on weekends(?) and now DL.

And you're right about no E75s at ATL. I looked through there January timetable and found nothing. Perhaps they'll have to rotate some in from DTW through some place like TYS, FNT, CHO, ROA. I can't imagine them flying them in through ORF from BOS/NYC but perhaps something complex unless they add a weekend DTW-HHH and use one plane throughout the week flying only HHH-ATL-HHH-ATL-HHH-ATL-HHH.


"Might DL now consider other AA monopolies in the Southeast like Lynchburg (VA) or Florence (SC)?"
While its not in the southeast, AA also has a monopoly HVN with its PHL and CLT service. HVN-DTW would be a good start for a second carrier at HVN.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:33 am

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Curious about how the HHH terminal will handle all this traffic … these EMB175s (possibly more than one at a time) are a YUGE step up over a single Dash 8-100 load of pax in that terminal!


AA is already flying E-175s into HHH. A new terminal is not required, even for 2 at a time.

They could use a baggage X-ray machine so that hand inspections of all checked bags by TSA would not be necessary.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:47 am

With AA service to FLO down to 3 E-145's (Monday's schedule) and Delta's last service on Saabs almost 7 years ago, I can't see the opportunity; especially with MYR, FAY and CAE each barely an hour away and CHS not much further. With Florence SC county household income more than 25% below the national average, FLO will not see DL back for a long time.
 
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Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:24 am

MIflyer12 wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
I flew ATL-MEM on a Shuttle America E170 in 2007. But they are a very rare site in ATL. It's a shame they give their ATL customers the shaft. The E170/175 is the most comfortable aircraft in the fleet.


ATL doesn't get the shaft. ATL gets mainline, with mainline pilot experience and reliability. Point to another carrier's U.S. hub op with more than 400 flights a day that has a higher % of mainline ops.


Mainline pilots have killed many people. KLM's most experienced captain whiped out over 500 in a matter of seconds. And then you have all the Pan Am 707's that ended up in a fire ball. So maybe stop the regional pilot bashing.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:45 pm

US/AA has been flying 175s there since the retirement of the Dash 8s.

So the airport has had the capability to handle that plane.
 
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Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:10 pm

SumChristianus wrote:
Makes great sense with the runway extension but does this threaten UA's big entrance with IAD 3x and EWR/ORD on the weekends?


These are Delta Connections flights. We've seen how consumers respond to Delta Connection service in other small markets like JNU, YEG, and elsewhere. Unless Delta changes HHH to mainline, there is no threat to UA.
 
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Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:11 pm

DLPMMM wrote:
F27500 wrote:
Curious about how the HHH terminal will handle all this traffic … these EMB175s (possibly more than one at a time) are a YUGE step up over a single Dash 8-100 load of pax in that terminal!


AA is already flying E-175s into HHH. A new terminal is not required, even for 2 at a time.

They could use a baggage X-ray machine so that hand inspections of all checked bags by TSA would not be necessary.


OMG they actually have to open and hand inspect every checked bag ???
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:44 pm

I do wonder if there will be a new thread in the summer or somewhere in Enilria's OAG thread about half these flights going away. A lot of added capacity in a short time.
 
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Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:38 pm

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I do wonder if there will be a new thread in the summer or somewhere in Enilria's OAG thread about half these flights going away. A lot of added capacity in a short time.


You will probably see slightly less capacity into Savannah (if anything), which is where most people flew into for Hilton Head, so I doubt you'll see much cut.
 
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TWFlyGuy wrote:
I do wonder if there will be a new thread in the summer or somewhere in Enilria's OAG thread about half these flights going away. A lot of added capacity in a short time.


You will probably see slightly less capacity into Savannah (if anything), which is where most people flew into for Hilton Head, so I doubt you'll see much cut.


I don't see that happening. SAV is a decent size city that can hold it's own. This service relies on higher fares. There may be a lot of money on the island but it's limited and retired people have time to drive to SAV for a cheaper ticket.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:48 pm

So has anyone else poked around the DL schedule for this timeframe to figure out where the E-jet is coming from? Will they reintroduce ATL-based E170 flying or will this be on a funny W-routing (something like DTW/LGA-TYS/ROA/BHM/GSP/ORF/ALB-ATL-HHH)?
 
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:51 pm

TWFlyGuy wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:
TWFlyGuy wrote:
I do wonder if there will be a new thread in the summer or somewhere in Enilria's OAG thread about half these flights going away. A lot of added capacity in a short time.


You will probably see slightly less capacity into Savannah (if anything), which is where most people flew into for Hilton Head, so I doubt you'll see much cut.


I don't see that happening. SAV is a decent size city that can hold it's own. This service relies on higher fares. There may be a lot of money on the island but it's limited and retired people have time to drive to SAV for a cheaper ticket.


You do realize HHH is a major tourist destination? We aren’t talking about the people that live on the island.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:55 pm

F27500 wrote:
DLPMMM wrote:
F27500 wrote:
Curious about how the HHH terminal will handle all this traffic … these EMB175s (possibly more than one at a time) are a YUGE step up over a single Dash 8-100 load of pax in that terminal!


AA is already flying E-175s into HHH. A new terminal is not required, even for 2 at a time.

They could use a baggage X-ray machine so that hand inspections of all checked bags by TSA would not be necessary.


OMG they actually have to open and hand inspect every checked bag ???


Yes...TSA opens every bag and inspects by hand. Don't try to check a bag at the last minute at HHH
 
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IPFreely wrote:
SumChristianus wrote:
Makes great sense with the runway extension but does this threaten UA's big entrance with IAD 3x and EWR/ORD on the weekends?


These are Delta Connections flights. We've seen how consumers respond to Delta Connection service in other small markets like JNU, YEG, and elsewhere. Unless Delta changes HHH to mainline, there is no threat to UA.


Mainline can't land at HHH because of the short (5K foot) runway and trees.

I have never heard anything about UA flying into HHH from either IAD or EWR. Was there some sort of announcement that I missed?
 
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:59 pm

DLPMMM wrote:
F27500 wrote:
DLPMMM wrote:

AA is already flying E-175s into HHH. A new terminal is not required, even for 2 at a time.

They could use a baggage X-ray machine so that hand inspections of all checked bags by TSA would not be necessary.


OMG they actually have to open and hand inspect every checked bag ???


Yes...TSA opens every bag and inspects by hand. Don't try to check a bag at the last minute at HHH


It's not all that uncommon at smaller stations, even smaller stations with a fair amount of jet service. CLL, which has 7 or 8 flights a day on two carriers, still has hand inspection IINM.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:08 pm

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I have never heard anything about UA flying into HHH from either IAD or EWR. Was there some sort of announcement that I missed?


http://www.hiltonheadairport.com/united-airlines.php
 
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:22 pm

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TWFlyGuy wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:

You will probably see slightly less capacity into Savannah (if anything), which is where most people flew into for Hilton Head, so I doubt you'll see much cut.


I don't see that happening. SAV is a decent size city that can hold it's own. This service relies on higher fares. There may be a lot of money on the island but it's limited and retired people have time to drive to SAV for a cheaper ticket.


You do realize HHH is a major tourist destination? We aren’t talking about the people that live on the island.


Tourists...you mean price sensitive people who will see a cheaper fare to SAV and go there? I get it, I go there a lot. At the end of the day, people have become conditioned to SAV already. This move is purely defensive by DL not necessarily demand based. Not sure this level of seats is truly sustainable. Happy to be wrong but don't see it.
 
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jbs2886 wrote:
TWFlyGuy wrote:

I don't see that happening. SAV is a decent size city that can hold it's own. This service relies on higher fares. There may be a lot of money on the island but it's limited and retired people have time to drive to SAV for a cheaper ticket.


You do realize HHH is a major tourist destination? We aren’t talking about the people that live on the island.


Tourists...you mean price sensitive people who will see a cheaper fare to SAV and go there? I get it, I go there a lot. At the end of the day, people have become conditioned to SAV already. This move is purely defensive by DL not necessarily demand based. Not sure this level of seats is truly sustainable. Happy to be wrong but don't see it.


Most of the people that go to HHH are not as price sensitive. A reasonable price into HHH compared to SAV, people will go to HHH.
 
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:43 pm

jbs2886 wrote:
TWFlyGuy wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:

You do realize HHH is a major tourist destination? We aren’t talking about the people that live on the island.


Tourists...you mean price sensitive people who will see a cheaper fare to SAV and go there? I get it, I go there a lot. At the end of the day, people have become conditioned to SAV already. This move is purely defensive by DL not necessarily demand based. Not sure this level of seats is truly sustainable. Happy to be wrong but don't see it.


Most of the people that go to HHH are not as price sensitive. A reasonable price into HHH compared to SAV, people will go to HHH.


. . . but they are time sensitive. And a nonstop to SAV is almost always going to be quicker than connecting to HHH. Along the same lines, nobody will fly from Atlanta to Hilton Head when it's an easy half-day or so drive.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:53 pm

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I thought they didn't have E175s at ATL. Or am I mistaken?


E170s used to fly from ATL back in the late 2000s. I remember them being on ATL-HPN too. They were a very common sight with CRJ-900s at many mainline gates before Delta started to upgauge again in the 2010s.

Delta restarting Hilton Head was only a matter of time. Glad to see it happening.
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:57 pm

Cubsrule wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:
TWFlyGuy wrote:

Tourists...you mean price sensitive people who will see a cheaper fare to SAV and go there? I get it, I go there a lot. At the end of the day, people have become conditioned to SAV already. This move is purely defensive by DL not necessarily demand based. Not sure this level of seats is truly sustainable. Happy to be wrong but don't see it.


Most of the people that go to HHH are not as price sensitive. A reasonable price into HHH compared to SAV, people will go to HHH.


. . . but they are time sensitive. And a nonstop to SAV is almost always going to be quicker than connecting to HHH. Along the same lines, nobody will fly from Atlanta to Hilton Head when it's an easy half-day or so drive.



HHH is a very popular destination for folks in the ohio valley, Canada and the Northeast, not just for toursim, but for 2nd homes.. AA (Through CLT) and DL ( Through ATL) can easily monopolize this route with the proper dedication. UA is at a bit of a disadvantage, but they have the clientele in NJ and DC that want to golf there.

If the price is right SAV and CHS are at a disadvantage due to the driving time once landed.

Time will tell, but HHH will do well with at least 2 of the airlines.

Also having been there in the last year. Most folks will do anything to avoid the line at the bridge to get into Hilton Head..
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:00 pm

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jbs2886 wrote:
TWFlyGuy wrote:

Tourists...you mean price sensitive people who will see a cheaper fare to SAV and go there? I get it, I go there a lot. At the end of the day, people have become conditioned to SAV already. This move is purely defensive by DL not necessarily demand based. Not sure this level of seats is truly sustainable. Happy to be wrong but don't see it.


Most of the people that go to HHH are not as price sensitive. A reasonable price into HHH compared to SAV, people will go to HHH.


. . . but they are time sensitive. And a nonstop to SAV is almost always going to be quicker than connecting to HHH. Along the same lines, nobody will fly from Atlanta to Hilton Head when it's an easy half-day or so drive.


1. ATL for a day on business from HHH is not unheard of...I have done it.

2. Most of the HHH traffic will be connecting.

3. SAV does not have non-stop flights to most destinations except hubs, so for most people your non-stop to SAV versus connecting to HHH is not germaine...most flyers will connect anyway going to either airport. Ohio seems to be the largest destination for most of HHH traffic, yet there are no non-stops to Ohio.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:03 pm

DLPMMM wrote:
F27500 wrote:
Curious about how the HHH terminal will handle all this traffic … these EMB175s (possibly more than one at a time) are a YUGE step up over a single Dash 8-100 load of pax in that terminal!


AA is already flying E-175s into HHH. A new terminal is not required, even for 2 at a time.

They could use a baggage X-ray machine so that hand inspections of all checked bags by TSA would not be necessary.

IROPS are going to get really interesting there. Not much ramp or building space to spare.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:10 pm

SumChristianus wrote:
Makes great sense with the runway extension but does this threaten UA's big entrance with IAD 3x and EWR/ORD on the weekends?

Might DL now consider other AA monopolies in the Southeast like Lynchburg (VA) or Florence (SC)?

There is quite a bit of capacity being added to HHH from 3x AA E75 to that plus 3-4x daily E70/CR2 from UA, AA to DCA on weekends(?) and now DL.


US has flown up to ten daily nonstops CLT-HHH with DH8 before with even more on weekends. I was surprised AA only has three flights per day now even with the larger jet.
 
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Re: Delta Airlines Is Coming to Hilton Head

Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:11 pm

casinterest wrote:
Cubsrule wrote:
jbs2886 wrote:

Most of the people that go to HHH are not as price sensitive. A reasonable price into HHH compared to SAV, people will go to HHH.


. . . but they are time sensitive. And a nonstop to SAV is almost always going to be quicker than connecting to HHH. Along the same lines, nobody will fly from Atlanta to Hilton Head when it's an easy half-day or so drive.



HHH is a very popular destination for folks in the ohio valley, Canada and the Northeast, not just for toursim, but for 2nd homes.. AA (Through CLT) and DL ( Through ATL) can easily monopolize this route with the proper dedication. UA is at a bit of a disadvantage, but they have the clientele in NJ and DC that want to golf there.

If the price is right SAV and CHS are at a disadvantage due to the driving time once landed.

Time will tell, but HHH will do well with at least 2 of the airlines.

Also having been there in the last year. Most folks will do anything to avoid the line at the bridge to get into Hilton Head..


But don't all these wealthy tourists just fly their helicopters onto the island to avoid the bridge?

The traffic over the bridge is really only a problem on the major holidays. I have family there so I go quite a bit. It's a tourism spot but a lot of it is people in NC/SC/GA that just drive. There's only so many hotels on the island. Some stay off island as well and then SAV is just as good to use.

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