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New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:24 am

Good Morning. Poking around Frontiers website and quite a few new MCO adds loaded. MCO-BDL/BOS/BWI/DFW/IAH/PUJ! There may be more but that’s all I could find.
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:37 pm

Finally, for the love of all wholly, we got PUJ!
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:03 pm

 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:19 pm

Wow, Frontier making some serious adds recently.

MCO-BWI seems like a crazy addition considering all the competition currently on that route. Considering you have Spirit flying up to 3 flights a day and Southwest flying 10-14 flights a day, I don't have a clue on how Frontier can make a 3x weekly flight work out (especially since the competition was even too much for JetBlue, which resulted in them having to pull out of the market).
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:22 pm

shaneam12 wrote:
Wow, Frontier making some serious adds recently.

MCO-BWI seems like a crazy addition considering all the competition currently on that route. Considering you have Spirit flying up to 3 flights a day and Southwest flying 10-14 flights a day, I don't have a clue on how Frontier can make a 3x weekly flight work out.


Connecting pax maybe? Travelers loyal to Frontier?
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:23 pm

shaneam12 wrote:
Wow, Frontier making some serious adds recently.

MCO-BWI seems like a crazy addition considering all the competition currently on that route. Considering you have Spirit flying up to 3 flights a day and Southwest flying 10-14 flights a day, I don't have a clue on how Frontier can make a 3x weekly flight work out.


They can make it work thanks to the massive number of people still flocking to online travel agencies where they can build itineraries which best fits their time and price needs which no longer is restricted to one carrier or passing through one particular connection point during their travel.
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:29 pm

WeatherPilot wrote:
shaneam12 wrote:
Wow, Frontier making some serious adds recently.

MCO-BWI seems like a crazy addition considering all the competition currently on that route. Considering you have Spirit flying up to 3 flights a day and Southwest flying 10-14 flights a day, I don't have a clue on how Frontier can make a 3x weekly flight work out.


Connecting pax maybe? Travelers loyal to Frontier?


Yes, but BWI is a brand new market for them. So there are not really any loyal passengers in the Baltimore area yet and the only connection would be from Denver, where Frontier already serves DEN-MCO 2 to 3 times per day. Now, given that they have been serving IAD for a while now and they do have a loyal customer base in Philadelphia, they may be able to make it work, however, I still do not see them being able to pull this one off with all of the competition.
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:42 pm

Sorry, I don't share the same enthusiasm as does the topic poster....as a long time resident, plane spotter and user of MCO for over 40 yrs, the announcement of a low cost carrier increasing A321 service does not sound exciting at all to me.. The days when Aeroflot announced IL-62 service to MCO, Saudia with 743 service, KLM with 744 to Mexico and being able to fly an MD-11, L-1011, 777, 767 between MCO and ATL....now were talking.... thats exciting!
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:44 pm

shaneam12 wrote:
WeatherPilot wrote:
shaneam12 wrote:
Wow, Frontier making some serious adds recently.

MCO-BWI seems like a crazy addition considering all the competition currently on that route. Considering you have Spirit flying up to 3 flights a day and Southwest flying 10-14 flights a day, I don't have a clue on how Frontier can make a 3x weekly flight work out.


Connecting pax maybe? Travelers loyal to Frontier?


Yes, but BWI is a brand new market for them. So there are not really any loyal passengers in the Baltimore area yet and the only connection would be from Denver, where Frontier already serves DEN-MCO 2 to 3 times per day. Now, given that they have been serving IAD for a while now and they do have a loyal customer base in Philadelphia, they may be able to make it work, however, I still do not see them being able to pull this one off with all of the competition.


There are a few other nonstop routes such as BWI-CVG, BWI-MIA, and BWI-SAT that could be added by F9 at BWI since (a) NK doesn't currently serve CVG, MIA, or SAT, (b) there are currently no ULCC's serving CVG, MIA, or SAT nonstop from BWI, (c) AA is currently the only carrier serving MIA nonstop from BWI, (d) WN is currently the only carrier serving SAT nonstop from BWI, and (e) DL and WN are currently the only carriers serving CVG nonstop from BWI.

F9 might be able to make BWI-MIA nonstop service work since FL used to serve MIA nonstop from BWI prior to the WN-FL merger.
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:16 pm

shaneam12 wrote:
WeatherPilot wrote:
shaneam12 wrote:
Wow, Frontier making some serious adds recently.

MCO-BWI seems like a crazy addition considering all the competition currently on that route. Considering you have Spirit flying up to 3 flights a day and Southwest flying 10-14 flights a day, I don't have a clue on how Frontier can make a 3x weekly flight work out.


Connecting pax maybe? Travelers loyal to Frontier?


Yes, but BWI is a brand new market for them. So there are not really any loyal passengers in the Baltimore area yet and the only connection would be from Denver, where Frontier already serves DEN-MCO 2 to 3 times per day. Now, given that they have been serving IAD for a while now and they do have a loyal customer base in Philadelphia, they may be able to make it work, however, I still do not see them being able to pull this one off with all of the competition.


I mean people connecting through Orlando to somewhere else in their network.
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:31 pm

With this add from Frontier (4× weekly), BDL will now have up to 10 flights to MCO on a daily basis. I know New Englanders love Florida and the Orlando area but that seems like a lot of seats to one city, especially since Frontier has loaded an A321 into the system as making the aircraft for the flight.
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:59 pm

The interesting add is MCO-DAL. For the past number of years the F9 interest in DAL has been declining, primarily in part to aggressive AA responses. This add today will face stiff opposition.

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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:22 pm

Great to see some new F9 service out of MCO. I hope they schedule the flights so they create connections instead of making all of them P2P.
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:26 pm

crownvic wrote:
Sorry, I don't share the same enthusiasm as does the topic poster....as a long time resident, plane spotter and user of MCO for over 40 yrs, the announcement of a low cost carrier increasing A321 service does not sound exciting at all to me.. The days when Aeroflot announced IL-62 service to MCO, Saudia with 743 service, KLM with 744 to Mexico and being able to fly an MD-11, L-1011, 777, 767 between MCO and ATL....now were talking.... thats exciting!


Those flights would never happen now. You have to think in terms of people actually needing to use the new service instead of the exotic nature of the destinations.
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:45 pm

crownvic wrote:
Sorry, I don't share the same enthusiasm as does the topic poster....as a long time resident, plane spotter and user of MCO for over 40 yrs, the announcement of a low cost carrier increasing A321 service does not sound exciting at all to me.. The days when Aeroflot announced IL-62 service to MCO, Saudia with 743 service, KLM with 744 to Mexico and being able to fly an MD-11, L-1011, 777, 767 between MCO and ATL....now were talking.... thats exciting!


At least it’s Frontier with the different animal tails to spot.
 
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Re: New F9 MCO Announcements!

Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:39 pm

Novaboy2525 wrote:
With this add from Frontier (4× weekly), BDL will now have up to 10 flights to MCO on a daily basis. I know New Englanders love Florida and the Orlando area but that seems like a lot of seats to one city, especially since Frontier has loaded an A321 into the system as making the aircraft for the flight.


Certain times of the year, you could fill 20 daily N/S flights to MCO, but there are other times where the demand is much lesser. They would be better off trying to exploit the seasonality of the market.

Their two recent adds for BDL are MCO and DEN, both are markets already served. I'd have rather seen them offer up new routes

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