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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:49 pm

speedygonzales wrote:
May CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115

May changes:
A319: No change
A320: 7 deliveries (Spirit, Air Asia, Lufthansa x2, Huaxia, Peach, Cambodia Airways)
A321: 3 deliveries (Delta x3)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 7
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
UFO - 8
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Gecas - 5
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 4
Aero K - 2
Peach - 2
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 47
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 3


The UFOs are mostly real, these are airlines from China, the airline will only be announced, when delivery has been performed.
So let us get rid of the Zombies:
A319: Hambur international is dead, not any more existing.
A320: Iran Air deal is dead (regarding embargo), as also Mexicana (airline cancelled in 2010),
Aero K: still at start and first jet deliverd last month has ended at another airline. So still not dead but also not really alive; but they have recently received a certificate by Korean government, so who knows. So these jets are produced, but still not taken by the airline, instead directly sold to someone else.
A321:Iran Air (deal is dead regarding embargo).
 
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Delta A321’s from Hamburg

Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:52 pm

Hi Folks,
Couple of Questions on the growing Delta A321 fleet
1. Noticed there are two built frames MSN 8822 +8854 sat completed and parked in Hamburg since Late March/early April. Why the delay in first flights and delivery ?
2. Does anybody have info on how the split between Hamburg and Alabama for the remaining a321ceo orders ?
panamascot
 
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Re: Delta A321’s from Hamburg

Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:31 pm

panamascot wrote:
Hi Folks,
Couple of Questions on the growing Delta A321 fleet
1. Noticed there are two built frames MSN 8822 +8854 sat completed and parked in Hamburg since Late March/early April. Why the delay in first flights and delivery ?

For sure the same reason as the other 45 ceos and neos parked with engines in XFW, but I don‘t why.
 
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Re: Delta A321’s from Hamburg

Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:36 pm

panamascot wrote:
2. Does anybody have info on how the split between Hamburg and Alabama for the remaining a321ceo orders ?

The next MSN assignments
https://aibfamily.flights/search?aircra ... amily=A320
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:43 pm

F-WWKH wrote:
Aero K Airlines first aircraft is not taken up and going to Cambodia Airways instead

Aircraft was delivered to Aero K according OD but (likely) leased to Cambodia. The next MSNs 9037+9122 are assigned.
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:25 am

June CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105

June changes:
A319: 1 delivery (Tibet)
A320: 5 deliveries (Viva Colombia x3, Huaxia, Cambodia Airways)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x3, Wizz)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 6
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
UFO - 7
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 4
Gecas - 2
Peach - 2
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 2
Ignorance kills. :tombstone:
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:37 am

speedygonzales wrote:
June CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105

June changes:
A319: 1 delivery (Tibet)
A320: 5 deliveries (Viva Colombia x3, Huaxia, Cambodia Airways)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x3, Wizz)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 6
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
UFO - 7
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 4
Gecas - 2
Peach - 2
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 2


Took out the suspected "dead" orders and had a look at which aircraft have already been spotted as assembled:

A319:
UFO - 6

A320:
UFO - 7
Lufthansa - 4 (1 supposedly delivered yesterday *MSN8951*, 3x spotted, 8911, 9052 and 9058, order completed)
Gecas - 2 (//Edit: Looking at expected production list, 2 allocated airlines not in this list, 1x Starflyer and 1x VivaAir Colombia, order complete?)
Peach - 2 (2x spotted 8892 and 9081, order completed)
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44
Wizz Air - 2 (2x spotted, 8943 and 8950, order completed)

Looking at the website I used http://aibfamily.flights (I know not an official source), I noticed a thing.

Of the allocated MSNs all A320's have an expected French registration for their test flights and for the A321 after the two Wizz Air, they all have a F- reg allocated to the BFM site (F-WZMx).
Could XFW be the first of the Airbus sites to transition to 100% neo production, followed by TLS and leave TSN and BFM to finish the ceo's for their respective parts of the world given that most of the outstanding orders are UFO which are suspected to be Chinese orders and 40+ Delta Airlines to be delivered all from BFM...
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:18 pm

starbucks wrote:
Of the allocated MSNs all A320's have an expected French registration for their test flights and for the A321 after the two Wizz Air, they all have a F- reg allocated to the BFM site (F-WZMx).
Could XFW be the first of the Airbus sites to transition to 100% neo production, followed by TLS and leave TSN and BFM to finish the ceo's for their respective parts of the world given that most of the outstanding orders are UFO which are suspected to be Chinese orders and 40+ Delta Airlines to be delivered all from BFM...

It makes sense to transition to NEO only production based on region. It is almost time to finish the EU orders and TSN shouldn't have a long transition. BFM will be making DL planes for a while.

For CFM, the large DL order is a nice cushion to LEAP production. DL went with Pratt for the NEO with a nice set of contractual rights on PW1100G overhaul (as well as PW1500G).

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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:16 am

starbucks wrote:
Took out the suspected "dead" orders and had a look at which aircraft have already been spotted as assembled:

A319:
UFO - 6

A320:
UFO - 7
Lufthansa - 4 (1 supposedly delivered yesterday *MSN8951*, 3x spotted, 8911, 9052 and 9058, order completed)
Gecas - 2 (//Edit: Looking at expected production list, 2 allocated airlines not in this list, 1x Starflyer and 1x VivaAir Colombia, order complete?)
Peach - 2 (2x spotted 8892 and 9081, order completed)
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44
Wizz Air - 2 (2x spotted, 8943 and 8950, order completed)

Looking at the website I used http://aibfamily.flights (I know not an official source), I noticed a thing.

Of the allocated MSNs all A320's have an expected French registration for their test flights and for the A321 after the two Wizz Air, they all have a F- reg allocated to the BFM site (F-WZMx).
Could XFW be the first of the Airbus sites to transition to 100% neo production, followed by TLS and leave TSN and BFM to finish the ceo's for their respective parts of the world given that most of the outstanding orders are UFO which are suspected to be Chinese orders and 40+ Delta Airlines to be delivered all from BFM...


Little update based on a spottinglog from Toulouse at digitalairliners.com:

A319:
UFO - 6

A320:
UFO - 7
Gecas - 2 (Looking at expected production list, 2 allocated airlines not in this list, 1x Starflyer and 1x VivaAir Colombia, order complete?)
Aero K - 1 (MSN9037 spotted at Air France Maintenance hangar in all white with F-WTAM reg. *Testreg was F-WWIU, suggests delivery and then storage? Order complete)
Air Asia - 1 (MSN9130 spotted in full AirAsia colors, order complete)
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44

I deleted all the orders that I marked as "order complete" in my previous post, if the UFO, CASC (Chinese lessor) and "private" orders are all Chinese it leaves all CEO orders for the TSN and BFM assembly lines, transitioning the EU lines in TLS and XFW to full NEO production :)
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Fri Aug 09, 2019 6:09 am

July CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98

July changes:
A319: No change
A320: 3 deliveries (Batik, Lufthansa, Peach)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x4)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 6
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 6
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 3
Gecas - 2
Peach - 1
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 40
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 2
Ignorance kills. :tombstone:
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:17 pm

Skyliner is reporting delivery of MSN8911 to Lufthansa today

Airbus A320-214 MSN8911 D-AIWH Lufthansa delivery 12aug19 XFW-SXF ex D-AXAG
 
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Re: Airbus A320ceo Family Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:40 pm

speedygonzales wrote:
July CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98

July changes:
A319: No change
A320: 3 deliveries (Batik, Lufthansa, Peach)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x4)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 6
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 6
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 3
Gecas - 2
Peach - 1
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 40
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 2


Thank you Speedy.
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