speedygonzales wrote:

May CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115

May changes:
A319: No change
A320: 7 deliveries (Spirit, Air Asia, Lufthansa x2, Huaxia, Peach, Cambodia Airways)
A321: 3 deliveries (Delta x3)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 7
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
UFO - 8
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Gecas - 5
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 4
Aero K - 2
Peach - 2
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 47
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 3

The UFOs are mostly real, these are airlines from China, the airline will only be announced, when delivery has been performed.
So let us get rid of the Zombies:
A319: Hambur international is dead, not any more existing.
A320: Iran Air deal is dead (regarding embargo), as also Mexicana (airline cancelled in 2010),
Aero K: still at start and first jet deliverd last month has ended at another airline. So still not dead but also not really alive; but they have recently received a certificate by Korean government, so who knows. So these jets are produced, but still not taken by the airline, instead directly sold to someone else.
A321:Iran Air (deal is dead regarding embargo).

Hi Folks,
Couple of Questions on the growing Delta A321 fleet
1. Noticed there are two built frames MSN 8822 +8854 sat completed and parked in Hamburg since Late March/early April. Why the delay in first flights and delivery ?
2. Does anybody have info on how the split between Hamburg and Alabama for the remaining a321ceo orders ?

panamascot wrote:

Hi Folks,
Couple of Questions on the growing Delta A321 fleet
1. Noticed there are two built frames MSN 8822 +8854 sat completed and parked in Hamburg since Late March/early April. Why the delay in first flights and delivery ?

For sure the same reason as the other 45 ceos and neos parked with engines in XFW, but I don‘t why.

panamascot wrote:

2. Does anybody have info on how the split between Hamburg and Alabama for the remaining a321ceo orders ?

The next MSN assignments
https://aibfamily.flights/search?aircra ... amily=A320

F-WWKH wrote:

Aero K Airlines first aircraft is not taken up and going to Cambodia Airways instead

Aircraft was delivered to Aero K according OD but (likely) leased to Cambodia. The next MSNs 9037+9122 are assigned.

June CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105

June changes:
A319: 1 delivery (Tibet)
A320: 5 deliveries (Viva Colombia x3, Huaxia, Cambodia Airways)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x3, Wizz)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 6
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
UFO - 7
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 4
Gecas - 2
Peach - 2
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 2

speedygonzales wrote:

June CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105

June changes:
A319: 1 delivery (Tibet)
A320: 5 deliveries (Viva Colombia x3, Huaxia, Cambodia Airways)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x3, Wizz)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 6
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
UFO - 7
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 4
Gecas - 2
Peach - 2
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 2

Took out the suspected "dead" orders and had a look at which aircraft have already been spotted as assembled:

A319:
UFO - 6

A320:
UFO - 7
Lufthansa - 4 (1 supposedly delivered yesterday *MSN8951*, 3x spotted, 8911, 9052 and 9058, order completed)
Gecas - 2 (//Edit: Looking at expected production list, 2 allocated airlines not in this list, 1x Starflyer and 1x VivaAir Colombia, order complete?)
Peach - 2 (2x spotted 8892 and 9081, order completed)
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44
Wizz Air - 2 (2x spotted, 8943 and 8950, order completed)

Looking at the website I used http://aibfamily.flights (I know not an official source), I noticed a thing.

Of the allocated MSNs all A320's have an expected French registration for their test flights and for the A321 after the two Wizz Air, they all have a F- reg allocated to the BFM site (F-WZMx).
Could XFW be the first of the Airbus sites to transition to 100% neo production, followed by TLS and leave TSN and BFM to finish the ceo's for their respective parts of the world given that most of the outstanding orders are UFO which are suspected to be Chinese orders and 40+ Delta Airlines to be delivered all from BFM...

starbucks wrote:

Of the allocated MSNs all A320's have an expected French registration for their test flights and for the A321 after the two Wizz Air, they all have a F- reg allocated to the BFM site (F-WZMx).
Could XFW be the first of the Airbus sites to transition to 100% neo production, followed by TLS and leave TSN and BFM to finish the ceo's for their respective parts of the world given that most of the outstanding orders are UFO which are suspected to be Chinese orders and 40+ Delta Airlines to be delivered all from BFM...

It makes sense to transition to NEO only production based on region. It is almost time to finish the EU orders and TSN shouldn't have a long transition. BFM will be making DL planes for a while.

For CFM, the large DL order is a nice cushion to LEAP production. DL went with Pratt for the NEO with a nice set of contractual rights on PW1100G overhaul (as well as PW1500G).

Lightsaber

starbucks wrote:

Took out the suspected "dead" orders and had a look at which aircraft have already been spotted as assembled:

A319:
UFO - 6

A320:
UFO - 7
Lufthansa - 4 (1 supposedly delivered yesterday *MSN8951*, 3x spotted, 8911, 9052 and 9058, order completed)
Gecas - 2 (//Edit: Looking at expected production list, 2 allocated airlines not in this list, 1x Starflyer and 1x VivaAir Colombia, order complete?)
Peach - 2 (2x spotted 8892 and 9081, order completed)
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44
Wizz Air - 2 (2x spotted, 8943 and 8950, order completed)

Looking at the website I used http://aibfamily.flights (I know not an official source), I noticed a thing.

Of the allocated MSNs all A320's have an expected French registration for their test flights and for the A321 after the two Wizz Air, they all have a F- reg allocated to the BFM site (F-WZMx).
Could XFW be the first of the Airbus sites to transition to 100% neo production, followed by TLS and leave TSN and BFM to finish the ceo's for their respective parts of the world given that most of the outstanding orders are UFO which are suspected to be Chinese orders and 40+ Delta Airlines to be delivered all from BFM...

Little update based on a spottinglog from Toulouse at digitalairliners.com:

A319:
UFO - 6

A320:
UFO - 7
Gecas - 2 (Looking at expected production list, 2 allocated airlines not in this list, 1x Starflyer and 1x VivaAir Colombia, order complete?)
Aero K - 1 (MSN9037 spotted at Air France Maintenance hangar in all white with F-WTAM reg. *Testreg was F-WWIU, suggests delivery and then storage? Order complete)
Air Asia - 1 (MSN9130 spotted in full AirAsia colors, order complete)
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 44

I deleted all the orders that I marked as "order complete" in my previous post, if the UFO, CASC (Chinese lessor) and "private" orders are all Chinese it leaves all CEO orders for the TSN and BFM assembly lines, transitioning the EU lines in TLS and XFW to full NEO production

July CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98

July changes:
A319: No change
A320: 3 deliveries (Batik, Lufthansa, Peach)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x4)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 6
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 6
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 3
Gecas - 2
Peach - 1
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 40
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 2

speedygonzales wrote:

July CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98

July changes:
A319: No change
A320: 3 deliveries (Batik, Lufthansa, Peach)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x4)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 6
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 6
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 3
Gecas - 2
Peach - 1
Aero K - 1
Air Asia - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 40
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7
Wizz Air - 2

Thank you Speedy.

Here is another new A320ceo delivery:
Airbus A320-214 9104 HK-5327 Viva Air Colombia delivery 24-25aug19 TLS-KEF-BGR-BOG ex F-WWBN
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4

Next 24 A320ceo family delivery would be as follow, I might missed a few, apologies:

8379 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8439 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8597 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8709 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8784 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8822 Airbus A321-211(WL) N378DN Delta Air Lines
8845 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8892 Airbus A320-214 JA826P Peach
8931 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- China Express Airlines
8943 Airbus A321-231(WL) HA-LTI Wizz Air
8947 Airbus A321-211(WL) N386DN Delta Air Lines
8964 Airbus A320-214(WL) JA27MC Starflyer
9009 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- China Express Airlines
9033 Airbus A319-115(WL) B-309V Tibet Airlines
9052 Airbus A320-214(WL) D-AIWJ Lufthansa
9057 Airbus A321-211(WL) N389DN Delta Air Lines
9058 Airbus A320-214(WL) D-AIWK Lufthansa
9122 Airbus A320-214(WL) HL Aero K
9125 Airbus A321-211(WL) N394DX Delta Air Lines
9126 Airbus A321-211(WL) N395DZ Delta Air Lines
9128 Airbus A321-211(WL) N396DN Delta Air Lines
9130 Airbus A320-216(WL) 9M-RAT AirAsia
9176 Airbus A321-211(WL) N397DN Delta Air Lines
9185 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
9292 Airbus A320-214(WL) HK-5335 Viva Air Colombia
Source: planespotters.net, https://www.abcdlist.nl/airbus_a320.html

Point to note:

Sole A320ceo belongs to South Korea's newest airline Aero K is now confirmed.

Last A320ceo for Peach and AirAsia are now lined up.

Last two A320ceo for Lufthansa are now lined up.

Seems like Chengdu Airlines is behind 6 UFO A320 order, and China Express Airlines for GECAS 2 A320ceo, subject to final confirmation.

Those 6 UFO A319ceo seems to be for Tibet Air.

juliuswong wrote:

Here is another new A320ceo delivery:
Airbus A320-214 9104 HK-5327 Viva Air Colombia delivery 24-25aug19 TLS-KEF-BGR-BOG ex F-WWBN
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4

Next 24 A320ceo family delivery would be as follow, I might missed a few, apologies:

8379 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8439 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8597 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8709 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8784 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8822 Airbus A321-211(WL) N378DN Delta Air Lines
8845 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
8892 Airbus A320-214 JA826P Peach
8931 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- China Express Airlines
8943 Airbus A321-231(WL) HA-LTI Wizz Air
8947 Airbus A321-211(WL) N386DN Delta Air Lines
8964 Airbus A320-214(WL) JA27MC Starflyer
9009 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- China Express Airlines
9033 Airbus A319-115(WL) B-309V Tibet Airlines
9052 Airbus A320-214(WL) D-AIWJ Lufthansa
9057 Airbus A321-211(WL) N389DN Delta Air Lines
9058 Airbus A320-214(WL) D-AIWK Lufthansa
9122 Airbus A320-214(WL) HL Aero K
9125 Airbus A321-211(WL) N394DX Delta Air Lines
9126 Airbus A321-211(WL) N395DZ Delta Air Lines
9128 Airbus A321-211(WL) N396DN Delta Air Lines
9130 Airbus A320-216(WL) 9M-RAT AirAsia
9176 Airbus A321-211(WL) N397DN Delta Air Lines
9185 Airbus A320-214(WL) B- Chengdu Airlines
9292 Airbus A320-214(WL) HK-5335 Viva Air Colombia
Source: planespotters.net, https://www.abcdlist.nl/airbus_a320.html

Point to note:

Sole A320 belongs to South Korea's newest airline Aero K is now confirmed.

Last A320ceo for Peach and AirAsia are now lined up.

Last two A320ceo for Lufthansa are now lined up.

Seems like Chengdu Airlines is behind 6 UFO A320 order, and China Express Airlines for GECAS 2 A320ceo, subject to final confirmation.

Those 6 UFO A319 seems to be for Tibet Air.

Does MSN8892 for Peach still have the good old wing”fences” iso winglets?

marcelh wrote:

juliuswong wrote:

Here is another new A320ceo delivery:
Airbus A320-214 9104 HK-5327 Viva Air Colombia delivery 24-25aug19 TLS-KEF-BGR-BOG ex F-WWBN
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4

Point to note:

Sole A320 belongs to South Korea's newest airline Aero K is now confirmed.

Last A320ceo for Peach and AirAsia are now lined up.

Last two A320ceo for Lufthansa are now lined up.

Seems like Chengdu Airlines is behind 6 UFO A320 order, and China Express Airlines for GECAS 2 A320ceo, subject to final confirmation.

Those 6 UFO A319 seems to be for Tibet Air.

Does MSN8892 for Peach still have the good old wing”fences” iso winglets?

Old wing fence. https://twitter.com/Tobias_Gudat/status ... 6047790082

Someone83 wrote:

Last one to AirAsia has been delivered

Airbus A320 -216 9130 9M-RAT AirAsia delivery 30-31aug19 TLS-ASB-KUL

And Delta has taken 2 A321ceos in two days

Airbus A321 -211 9125 N394DX Delta Air Lines delivery 29aug19 BFM-MCI
Airbus A321 -211 9126 N395DZ Delta Air Lines delivery 30aug19 BFM-MCI

Last A321ceo for Wizz Air is now delivered.

Airbus A321 -231 8943 HA-LTI Wizz Air delivery 30aug19 XFW-BUD ex D-AVYZ
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=2

Future A321ceo delivery will be all for Delta. I don't think UTAir and Iran Air will be taking theirs anytime soon due their own reason. (UTAir is financial unstable. Iran Air due to sanctions).

August CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89

August changes:
A319: 1 Delivery (Tibet)
A320: 3 deliveries (Lufthansa, Viva Colombia, Air Asia)
A321: 5 deliveries (Delta x3, Wizz x2)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 6
Mexicana - 4
Lufthansa - 2
Gecas - 1
Peach - 1
Aero K - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 37
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7

Viva is getting one CEO more: MSN 9292 - HK-5335

September CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81

September changes:
A319: No change
A320: 4 deliveries (Peach, Lufthansa x2, Aero K)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x4)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 6
Mexicana - 4
Gecas - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 33
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7

Someone83 wrote:

Starflyer getting a CEO today

Airbus A320-214 MSN8964 JA27MC Starflyer delivery 04oct19 XFW-TSE ex D-AUAP

Assume it is leased?

No idea which order it's from, I thought the last Gecas order was for Viva Colombia. I guess we'll have to wait for the October O&D to find out.

speedygonzales wrote:

September CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81

September changes:
A319: No change
A320: 4 deliveries (Peach, Lufthansa x2, Aero K)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x4)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 6
Mexicana - 4
Gecas - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 33
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7

Thank you for these updates. Where you list orders and note some are from defunct airlines or de facto cancelled but still on the books, is it possible to put an asterisk next to those ones? I’m assuming they are Hamburg International, Iran Air, Mexicana, UTAir - are there others in there too?

V/F

VirginFlyer wrote:

speedygonzales wrote:

September CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81

September changes:
A319: No change
A320: 4 deliveries (Peach, Lufthansa x2, Aero K)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x4)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5 -Possible all Chinese orders, mainly Tibet Airlines
Hamburg International - 2*

A320:
Ural Air - 7*
Iran Air - 6*
UFO - 6 - Again possible mainly Chinese, Chengdu Airlines has 5 MSNs in the productionlist
Mexicana - 4*
Gecas - 1 - Possibly for Viva Air Colombia, MSN9292, First flight Oct. 9
Private - 1 - Likely Government of Thailand, MSN9313
CASC - 1 - Possbly for Starflyer (Japan), delivery flight was on Oct. 4 MSN8964

A321:
Delta - 33 - Speaks for its self, final aircraft expected in 2021
UTAir - 8*
Iran Air - 7*

Thank you for these updates. Where you list orders and note some are from defunct airlines or de facto cancelled but still on the books, is it possible to put an asterisk next to those ones? I’m assuming they are Hamburg International, Iran Air, Mexicana, UTAir - are there others in there too?

V/F

I've added them to your quote from speedy's post, as a second I added some expectations to the "credible" orders with allocated MSNs according to http://aibfamily.flights

starbucks wrote:

VirginFlyer wrote:

speedygonzales wrote:

September CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81

September changes:
A319: No change
A320: 4 deliveries (Peach, Lufthansa x2, Aero K)
A321: 4 deliveries (Delta x4)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5 -Possible all Chinese orders, mainly Tibet Airlines
Hamburg International - 2*

A320:
Ural Air - 7*
Iran Air - 6*
UFO - 6 - Again possible mainly Chinese, Chengdu Airlines has 5 MSNs in the productionlist
Mexicana - 4*
Gecas - 1 - Possibly for Viva Air Colombia, MSN9292, First flight Oct. 9
Private - 1 - Likely Government of Thailand, MSN9313
CASC - 1 - Possbly for Starflyer (Japan), delivery flight was on Oct. 4 MSN8964

A321:
Delta - 33 - Speaks for its self, final aircraft expected in 2021
UTAir - 8*
Iran Air - 7*

Thank you for these updates. Where you list orders and note some are from defunct airlines or de facto cancelled but still on the books, is it possible to put an asterisk next to those ones? I’m assuming they are Hamburg International, Iran Air, Mexicana, UTAir - are there others in there too?

V/F

I've added them to your quote from speedy's post, as a second I added some expectations to the "credible" orders with allocated MSNs according to http://aibfamily.flights

Thanks for that - that is exactly what I had in mind!

V/F

October CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78

October changes:
A319: No change
A320: 2 deliveries (Star Flyer, Chengdu)
A321: 1 delivery (Delta)

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 4
Mexicana - 4
Gecas - 1
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 32
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7

The Star Flyer delivery was leased from AWAS, and was previously listed as a UFO.

Thank you speedygonzales for the update. Great work as usual.

I guess from Sept and Oct numbers, Chengdu Airlines A320 was also from UFO. Removing defunct airlines and Iran Air order, there are roughly around 44 A320ceo family to be delivered.

Not a lot of activity in November, only the last Gecas order delivered to Viva Colombia.

November CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
November: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77

November changes:
A319: No change
A320: 1 deliveries (Viva Colombia)
A321: No Change

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 4
Mexicana - 4
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 32
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7

speedygonzales wrote:

Not a lot of activity in November, only the last Gecas order delivered to Viva Colombia.

November CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
November: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77

November changes:
A319: No change
A320: 1 deliveries (Viva Colombia)
A321: No Change

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 4
Mexicana - 4
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 32
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7

Thanks again Speedy. Great work.

Deliveries of CEOs seems to average about 2 per month or less.
With some 43 "real orders" in the backlog it willl still take almost 2 years for the CEO production to end.
I can't help but imagine it would be preferable for Airbus (and Delta) to convert the remaining frames to NEO.

You should see 2 A319's in the next few months for Tibet Airlines

chiad wrote:

speedygonzales wrote:

Not a lot of activity in November, only the last Gecas order delivered to Viva Colombia.

November CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
November: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77

November changes:
A319: No change
A320: 1 deliveries (Viva Colombia)
A321: No Change

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 4
Mexicana - 4
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 32
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7

Thanks again Speedy. Great work.

Deliveries of CEOs seems to average about 2 per month or less.
With some 43 "real orders" in the backlog it willl still take almost 2 years for the CEO production to end.
I can't help but imagine it would be preferable for Airbus (and Delta) to convert the remaining frames to NEO.

While I agree with your idea on DL A321s, there is a fundamental issue, a switch in engine vendor. CFM likes having the backlog to ensure a smooth transition to support from production. 23 more airframes is 46 more engines. That allows CFM to cheaply stock up on parts that are rarely needed +engine casings). For most CFM-56 parts, I will admit production is now a small fraction of demand.

Lightsaber

lightsaber wrote:

chiad wrote:

speedygonzales wrote:

Not a lot of activity in November, only the last Gecas order delivered to Viva Colombia.

November CEO backlog update:
(A319 + A320 + A321 = Total)
2017:
Dec: 17 + 196 + 182 = 395
2018:
Jan: 16 + 190 + 179 = 385
Feb: 15 + 182 + 169 = 366
Mar: 15 + 160 + 156 = 331
Apr: 20 + 155 + 146 = 321
May: 20 + 150 + 135 = 305
Jun: 20 + 131 + 126 = 277
Jul: 19 + 121 + 118 = 258
Aug: 19 + 118 + 113 = 250
Sep: 19 + 110 + 108 = 237
Oct: 18 + 95 + 104 = 217
Nov: 14 + 85 + 94 = 193
Dec: 11 + 70 + 84 = 165
2019:
Jan: 10 + 66 + 81 = 157
Feb: 10 + 61 + 77 = 148
Mar: 10 + 54 + 71 = 135
Apr: 9 + 48 + 68 = 125
May: 9 + 41 + 65 = 115
Jun: 8 + 36 + 61 = 105
Jul: 8 + 33 + 57 = 98
Aug: 7 + 30 + 52 = 89
Sep: 7 + 26 + 48 = 81
Oct: 7 + 24 + 47 = 78
November: 7 + 23 + 47 = 77

November changes:
A319: No change
A320: 1 deliveries (Viva Colombia)
A321: No Change

Remaining backlog (includes ghost orders from defunct airlines and others that are de facto cancelled but remain on the books until formally cancelled):
A319:
UFO - 5
Hamburg International - 2

A320:
Ural Air - 7
Iran Air - 6
UFO - 4
Mexicana - 4
Private - 1
CASC - 1

A321:
Delta - 32
UTAir - 8
Iran Air - 7

Thanks again Speedy. Great work.

Deliveries of CEOs seems to average about 2 per month or less.
With some 43 "real orders" in the backlog it willl still take almost 2 years for the CEO production to end.
I can't help but imagine it would be preferable for Airbus (and Delta) to convert the remaining frames to NEO.

While I agree with your idea on DL A321s, there is a fundamental issue, a switch in engine vendor. CFM likes having the backlog to ensure a smooth transition to support from production. 23 more airframes is 46 more engines. That allows CFM to cheaply stock up on parts that are rarely needed +engine casings). For most CFM-56 parts, I will admit production is now a small fraction of demand.

Lightsaber

By the way, although the last new A321ceo will only be delivered to Delta in 2021, the last CFM56-5B will already be delivered in May 2020.
Source for end of CFM56 production: https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2019-11-17/leap-production-and-deliveries-fully-schedule-cfm

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