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Re: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark

Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:44 am

It's Logan's Run... they're all off to the scrappers at age 30.
 
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Re: The first Airbus A320 to break the 30-year in service mark

Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:24 am

tnair1974 wrote:
Good to see N309US escape the scrappers at least one more time.

Delta recently announced that a portion of their A320s (among other aircraft types) have been/will be retired this year. N326US, a 1992 bird that was initially stored at MCI as the pandemic spread, was ferried MSP-SBD a couple weeks ago in what may have been its final flight.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N326US

Otherwise, so far to my knowledge all DL A320s that have left storage have returned to service including a mix of old (including N309US) and newer models.

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As mentioned earlier in the Delta Narrow Body Thread, N326US is indeed one of ten DL A320s that are now retired. All ten are from the oldest of the two batches of DL A320s.

N317US
N322US
N323US
N324US
N325US
N326US
N327NW
N328NW
N329NW
N330NW

Turns out N325US and N326US are at least two retired A320s already at SBD where it might be assumed(?) they will be scrapped there (anyway, the seven DL A320s retired in 2017 were parted out at SBD). The other A320s retired this year are for now still stored at various stations like BHM and ATL.

A nice note is that a few of the oldest DL A320s are back in service including (as mentioned beforehand) N309US as well as N312US, N321US, N331NW among others. So a few more older DL A320s may reach the 30 year mark relatively soon...if they don't time out on heavy check hours/retire first.
 
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Re: A first Airbus A320 broke through the 30-year into service mark

Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:55 am

SheikhDjibouti wrote:
(by all means do some research of your own)

So... not so many early-build MD-80s made it to 25 with their original operator either.
What was your point exactly? :rotfl:

Or we could simply accept that this is a great milestone for Airbus.


It’s a great milestone for Airbus. But barking up the MD-80 tree is the wrong aircraft to picking this fight with. AA, DL, SK, AZ, and others operated countless MD-80 examples from delivery through 25 years of service straight.

Again, not taking away from the A320. But save the braggadocio for 737 classic comparisons.
Did you know that a Boeing 717-200 is really a McDonnell Douglas MD95-30? ;-)
 
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Re: A first Airbus A320 broke through the 30-year into service mark

Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:36 pm

DeltaMD95 wrote:
SheikhDjibouti wrote:
So... not so many early-build MD-80s made it to 25 with their original operator either.

But barking up the MD-80 tree is the wrong aircraft to picking this fight with.
AA, DL, SK, AZ, and others operated countless MD-80 examples from delivery through 25 years of service straight.

Again, not taking away from the A320. But save the braggadocio for 737 classic comparisons.

I had some serious head-scratching there, not surprising since I wrote those words over 18 months ago!. :lol:

So, to add some context, it wasn't me who made the original comparison;
MIflyer12 wrote:
Want to compare A320 longevity to MD-80/83/88? I didn't think so.
Want to look at how many early-build 320s didn't make it to 25 with their original operators?

So...he claimed "early-build" A320s looked bad against MD-80s, and all that time ago I disputed this with the following examples.
Swissair (launch customer); MD-81 1980-1998
PSA MD-81 1981 - 2002
Austrian Airlines; MD-81 1980 - 1999; MD-82/83/87 1983 - 2005
AA - famous for flying something over 370 examples, and whilst a handful of them are setting service records, the majority are falling way short.


Fast forward 18mths, and here we are again, with more vague unsubstantiated claims. :roll:
DeltaMD95 wrote:
AA, DL, SK, AZ, and others operated countless MD-80 examples from delivery through 25 years of service straight.
Countless? Let's see shall we?

AA - I've already commented on AA
DL - yeah, to save myself grief I will agree they had some fantastically old birds when they were finally retired in June.
...... but none of them were "early builds" [Hey...I didn't set the rules]
SK - didn't order any "early-build" MD-80s, only getting their first in late 1985. A handful (four?) made it to 27 years, providing we ignore the periods they were leased out.
AZ - stored/scrapped/sold their earliest birds just as they came up for 25 years service. So unlucky!
I'm afraid I don't know who the "and others" are; that's your problem.

I guess I'll finish as I started;
SheikhDjibouti wrote:
So... not so many early-build MD-80s made it to 25 with their original operator either.

And it still rings true.
Nothing to see here; move along please.

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