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Meltshopmax
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Delta 737 off taxiway in CVG...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:46 am

Delta just put a 737 off Juliet in cvg. It missed the turn
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:11 am

More snow than Cincy has seen in awhile. Seems like this is DAL1708 LAS-CVG?

From twitter, looks like a lot of snow:
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:16 am

It was coming down like snowballs around 4:30 to 5:30....its a mess
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:21 am

Surprised it didn't divert to SDF?

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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:21 am

Looks like a rough time getting around the airport in those conditions.

BTW, when are people going to stop using the term 'tarmac'?
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:24 am

Credit to @BradRitti:
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:42 am

Call Joe Patroni !!!
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:59 am

Unlike the 707, the 737-900 is not considered to be a "tank."
This plane is built to withstand anything... except a bad pilot.
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:06 pm

Mesa had a CR9 go off the runway in COU today too
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:31 pm

Is there a reason why many of these incidents are 737s? Is it because of the higher landing speed, especially the -900?
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:18 pm

it does appear it sits on its tail
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:27 pm

wetpantsmcgee wrote:
BTW, when are people going to stop using the term 'tarmac'?


In my opinion anything is an improvement over calling ever corner of the airport “the runway”.
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:48 pm

blackbox67 wrote:
it does appear it sits on its tail

Yes it does look like it is sitting on it's tail. The 900 will do this if you unload passengers from the front before you unload the bags from the aft cargo. Many airlines are installing a pogo stick under the tail as soon as it arrives at the gate. Tough to do that in a snow bank.
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:19 pm

blackbox67 wrote:
it does appear it sits on its tail


It does, but it is hard to see if it is on level ground or not.

bgm wrote:
Is there a reason why many of these incidents are 737s? Is it because of the higher landing speed, especially the -900?


Don’t forget there are more 737s flying in the US than any other airplane for US airlines.
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:33 pm

bgm wrote:
Is there a reason why many of these incidents are 737s? Is it because of the higher landing speed, especially the -900?


There have been 3 incidents in the past week (including 2 today). The one in Moscow lost directional control 300m into the takeoff run, the other 2 were on taxiways. Landing speed is irrelevant in all these issues.
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:59 pm

bgm wrote:
Is there a reason why many of these incidents are 737s? Is it because of the higher landing speed, especially the -900?


Actually a good question. They are also flown into less than optimal airports for foul weather like MDW and BUR and LGA although that is not the case with this incident.
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:12 pm

Hello, as DDR said, “the IL-62 has the built in pole”. It’s not difficult to design and “put” it on every plane, only this is a dead weight that You carried instead of cargo o pax. For I’ll-62M , all the pole and related mechanics, (2 ea electric motors, one for redundancy, gear box, controls , etc.) Weight close to 4 ton, yes 4.000 kg.... in a 168 pax and not to much cargo’s plane.

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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:46 pm

I don’t like “Tarmac” either. Tarmac probably hasn’t been used at any major “first world” airport in decades (lots of Asphalt & Concrete though!). I don’t remember anyone using it at the airport, but the media always did.
But the term I never understood was “Ramp”. Seems to be a North American thing. Planes are parked and loaded/serviced on the Apron. A Ramp is something used to get seaplanes and amphibians from the water to the Apron. But in over 50 years of working on the Ramp in the USA the only people I’ve ever heard using “Apron” are airport ops and the FAA. When I did some temporary duty in Europe (Delta/PanAm transition) Apron seemed to be the common term.
Of course, this has nothing to do with aircraft sliding off the runway. But while we are off subject, I’ve seen many aircraft using tail stands. Just about anything in all cargo configuration. You can see many pictures of the ones that forgot to use them. The 727-200 (I never worked 100’s). Lowering the rear stairs and making sure they locked into position as a tail stand was a requirement, at least at any airline I ground handled. ATR-72’s have built in tail stands.
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:51 pm

ibthebigd wrote:
Surprised it didn't divert to SDF?

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Why? It’s off the taxiway not the runway. Not really a big deal.
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:59 pm

bgm wrote:
Is there a reason why many of these incidents are 737s? Is it because of the higher landing speed, especially the -900?


Probably because the 737 is so common.
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:09 pm

The flight did not run off the runway on lading. Aircraft was taxing and missed a turn. Taxiways and ramps where in poor condition.
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:15 pm

Didn't have to wait long to see the expected incorrect headline: "Aircraft runs off of Ohio runway"!
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:26 pm

The ground there has a slight depression....if it had only been an A320.........it would still be stuck......lol
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:32 pm

wetpantsmcgee wrote:
Looks like a rough time getting around the airport in those conditions.

BTW, when are people going to stop using the term 'tarmac'?


Just after people stop using aircrafts.
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:44 pm

I heard the tower say they could turn off Juliet towards the rap anywhere they wanted.......after they get stuck the tower said it looked like he was in the grass island .the crew said they would call tower when they figured out what they where gonna do.....and we all had a laugh thinking.......you not gonna do anything.....your stuck....it was an interesting exchange with the tower.
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in cvg...heavy snow

Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:59 am

Dalmd88 wrote:
blackbox67 wrote:
it does appear it sits on its tail

Yes it does look like it is sitting on it's tail. The 900 will do this if you unload passengers from the front before you unload the bags from the aft cargo. Many airlines are installing a pogo stick under the tail as soon as it arrives at the gate. Tough to do that in a snow bank.


This video shows that the nose gear is still on the ground. The main gear is in a ditch. The airplane is not sitting on its tail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oATPt5Vs1S0
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in CVG...heavy snow

Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:20 am

Complete mess across a large portion of the USA today. Listening to the ground freq at DCA tonight, aircraft were running up against the three hour ground limits, aircraft were sitting in the hold pads for an hour plus, aircraft dealing with the fact that deicing being done at the gates was delaying other aircraft waiting to get into those gates.

Ugly.
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in CVG...heavy snow

Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:40 am

What was the problem? Skidding and unable to turn? or an inability to see the taxiway?
 
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Re: Delta 737 off taxiway in CVG...heavy snow

Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:16 am

grozzy wrote:
What was the problem? Skidding and unable to turn? or an inability to see the taxiway?

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