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Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:14 am
by Cunard
If it goes ahead hopefully we're get some good shots by photography and video, where I am in Southampton it's very overcast.

It would be great to see all four aircraft on the apron together as well and even more so if Concorde was in view.

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:29 pm
by CarbonFibre

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:36 pm
by Guillaume787
CarbonFibre wrote:


Great shots, thanks for sharing the links! Landor livery is such a classic!

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:33 pm
by n729pa
I have to say what a great job BA have done on these planes. I spotted the Negus tail 2 weeks ago across at T5 and it made the hairs on the back of my neck stick up! It took me back some. Then last Tuesday I was off to Berlin and saw BOAC and Landor later as we took off. Just need to see the BEA one now but it looks splendid in pictures I've seen so far. It seems to suit the A319.

I can remember seeing a few speedjack Tridents at T1 must have been around 1978 perhaps. Shame they couldnt do one on a A320. But still, it's a treat to see the others.

Re: Rumor: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:38 pm
by Ba0218
JAXBA wrote:
JAXBA wrote:
Excerpt from the BA Corporate Identity Guidelines from 1997 with the branding buzz words:


Fixed image link.

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Jaxba, could you private message me in regards to this booklet, I have some questions about it.

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:47 pm
by MADPYRO
Anyone got info on why G-EUPJ (BEA scheme) is now at LGW? I'd also noticed G-EUUC (Red Nose) switch to LGW a couple weeks ago as well...

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:30 pm
by CarbonFibre
MADPYRO wrote:
Anyone got info on why G-EUPJ (BEA scheme) is now at LGW?


A deliberate switch so that more people get a chance to see it/fly on it?

https://twitter.com/British_Airways/sta ... 4360341509

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:33 pm
by MADPYRO
CarbonFibre wrote:
MADPYRO wrote:
Anyone got info on why G-EUPJ (BEA scheme) is now at LGW?


A deliberate switch so that more people get a chance to see it/fly on it?

https://twitter.com/British_Airways/sta ... 4360341509


Makes sense with both aircraft. Thanks. I thought it might have had something to do with more NEOs coming online....

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:35 am
by ftzvika
I see no schedual to BNLY. Im comming aspacialy to Heathrow to see the new paintings this week aspacialy i liked the Landor. Anyone knows if he will fly this weak or hes going to stay aside for a while?

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:51 am
by Andy33
BA doesn't schedule BNLY separately from the other 15 744s with the same seating configuration. So she appears on a wide variety of routes, in the past 7 days she has been to Austin, Washington, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Capetown, Nairobi, and Accra.
http://thebasource.com/jet-tracker/
will tell you where she has been - it is updated daily

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:49 am
by audidudi
Andy33 wrote:
BA doesn't schedule BNLY separately from the other 15 744s with the same seating configuration. So she appears on a wide variety of routes, in the past 7 days she has been to Austin, Washington, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Capetown, Nairobi, and Accra.
http://thebasource.com/jet-tracker/
will tell you where she has been - it is updated daily

You can also check these two sites:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GBNLY

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-bnly

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:18 pm
by SQ317
@BARetrojets on Twitter posts schedules a few days in advance too

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:53 pm
by ferren
nice, but how much tea can be served for the price of one repaint?

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:12 pm
by CarbonFibre
Slight typeface tweak spotted at a recent anniversary event. Now sans serif.

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Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:12 pm
by Kindanew
CarbonFibre wrote:
Slight typeface tweak spotted at a recent anniversary event. Now sans serif.

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This is almost certainly a mistake.

The designer might have sent the Adobe Indesign file without packaging it. The result is the font will not be embedded.

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:28 pm
by JannEejit
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Kindanew wrote:
CarbonFibre wrote:
Slight typeface tweak spotted at a recent anniversary event. Now sans serif.

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This is almost certainly a mistake.

The designer might have sent the Adobe Indesign file without packaging it. The result is the font will not be embedded.


What sort of event was that ? It looks like they are waiting to see the company doctor...

Re: Confirmed: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:31 pm
by shamrock350
CarbonFibre wrote:
Slight typeface tweak spotted at a recent anniversary event. Now sans serif.


I'd say with confidence that it was a mistake rather than an official change of typeface.

I've seen the same happen at Aer Lingus, an air-stairs was mistakenly branded with a look-a-like typeface but still visibly different from the official corporate logo.

Re: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:16 pm
by VC10er
skipness1E wrote:
spinotter wrote:
spartanmjf wrote:
That isn't an unveiling - it is Lady Thatcher's reaction to the "World Tails" scheme that she thought diminished the value of "British Airways." Can't say that I disagree with her sentiment.


I disagree 100%. Thatcher was being jingoistic and small-minded as usual. The world tails were among the most interesting and beautiful liveries ever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_ethnic_liveries

From a marketing and branding standpoint, they were literally meaningless. Being all things to all men meant nothing to most people. Some were good, Chelsea Rose, Benyhone and Colum had British routes and were effective but the more abstract yli got, the less on brand they were. Ayling Airways was positioned to be a world airline based in the UK, whereas Eddington rightly saw BA as a British airline serving the world.
By the time you got to African tribal art and Devonshire pottery parked next to Canadian whaling abstract at T4, the penny dropped they’d gone too far. In the 22 years since, no one has copied the strategy, with good reason. Turkish serves more of the world than BA ever did but is there a call for their tailfins to be so adorned? Anyone fancy odds on an Emirates Japanese themed bird livery? No.


The biggest problem in MY profession is it is extremely difficult to get something bold and breakthrough signed off on and approved - because clients will sight disasters like BA world tails and the Tropicana redesign (which BTW cost more to fix than BA world tails!) I’m NOT saying BA world tails was great, the general notion of celebrating all the cultures of the places they served was probably a good idea and might have worked- but it failed in execution.
If what the new United “BRAND” stands for was crisper, the driving brand idea telegraphic, then the new UA livery wouldn’t look “all over the place” as it does now.

I know the person who designed the “Landor” BA livery. He must be thrilled! She died a bit too soon.

Re: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:52 pm
by spinotter
VC10er wrote:
skipness1E wrote:
spinotter wrote:

I disagree 100%. Thatcher was being jingoistic and small-minded as usual. The world tails were among the most interesting and beautiful liveries ever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_ethnic_liveries

From a marketing and branding standpoint, they were literally meaningless. Being all things to all men meant nothing to most people. Some were good, Chelsea Rose, Benyhone and Colum had British routes and were effective but the more abstract yli got, the less on brand they were. Ayling Airways was positioned to be a world airline based in the UK, whereas Eddington rightly saw BA as a British airline serving the world.
By the time you got to African tribal art and Devonshire pottery parked next to Canadian whaling abstract at T4, the penny dropped they’d gone too far. In the 22 years since, no one has copied the strategy, with good reason. Turkish serves more of the world than BA ever did but is there a call for their tailfins to be so adorned? Anyone fancy odds on an Emirates Japanese themed bird livery? No.


The biggest problem in MY profession is it is extremely difficult to get something bold and breakthrough signed off on and approved - because clients will sight disasters like BA world tails and the Tropicana redesign (which BTW cost more to fix than BA world tails!) I’m NOT saying BA world tails was great, the general notion of celebrating all the cultures of the places they served was probably a good idea and might have worked- but it failed in execution.
If what the new United “BRAND” stands for was crisper, the driving brand idea telegraphic, then the new UA livery wouldn’t look “all over the place” as it does now.

I know the person who designed the “Landor” BA livery. He must be thrilled! She died a bit too soon.


I have been following airline branding and liveries since the late 1950's when I took my first flight (FRA-LHR), and aside from a few of the QF aboriginal designs, there has been nothing as fresh and appealing as BA's World Tails, ever - IMHO. So Britain is insular and Brexit and all that, but to me the beauty of the designs was paramount. Marketing and branding viewpoint? Money and tribe prejudice rule, and beauty dies, I guess.

Re: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:28 pm
by JannEejit
spinotter wrote:

I have been following airline branding and liveries since the late 1950's when I took my first flight (FRA-LHR), and aside from a few of the QF aboriginal designs, there has been nothing as fresh and appealing as BA's World Tails, ever - IMHO. So Britain is insular and Brexit and all that, but to me the beauty of the designs was paramount. Marketing and branding viewpoint? Money and tribe prejudice rule, and beauty dies, I guess.


My sentiments exactly, all that was required to understand the exercise was a little perception, intellect and savvy. Far too many dullards lacking those credentials succeeded in bringing the project down. We now live in a society where stupidity is rewarded.

Re: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:12 pm
by spinotter
JannEejit wrote:
spinotter wrote:

I have been following airline branding and liveries since the late 1950's when I took my first flight (FRA-LHR), and aside from a few of the QF aboriginal designs, there has been nothing as fresh and appealing as BA's World Tails, ever - IMHO. So Britain is insular and Brexit and all that, but to me the beauty of the designs was paramount. Marketing and branding viewpoint? Money and tribe prejudice rule, and beauty dies, I guess.


My sentiments exactly, all that was required to understand the exercise was a little perception, intellect and savvy. Far too many dullards lacking those credentials succeeded in bringing the project down. We now live in a society where stupidity is rewarded.


Stupidity and chauvinistic nationalism. Ms. Thatcher and her handkerchief.

Re: British Airways to paint 4 aircraft in retro livery

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:29 pm
by JannEejit
spinotter wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
spinotter wrote:

I have been following airline branding and liveries since the late 1950's when I took my first flight (FRA-LHR), and aside from a few of the QF aboriginal designs, there has been nothing as fresh and appealing as BA's World Tails, ever - IMHO. So Britain is insular and Brexit and all that, but to me the beauty of the designs was paramount. Marketing and branding viewpoint? Money and tribe prejudice rule, and beauty dies, I guess.


My sentiments exactly, all that was required to understand the exercise was a little perception, intellect and savvy. Far too many dullards lacking those credentials succeeded in bringing the project down. We now live in a society where stupidity is rewarded.




Stupidity and chauvinistic nationalism. Ms. Thatcher and her handkerchief.


A handkerchief currently known as Boris Johnson. But I digress...