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Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:28 pm

Skywest has taken over all American Eagle CJ700 flying at SBN and FWA to both CLT and DFW. Looks like then they can do overnight maintenance on the aircraft at both of their Indiana bases.
 
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Re: Re: Indiana State Aviation: Part 16

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:35 pm

Anybody know when EVV redesigned the TSA screening? Two years ago when I was back home for Christmas, the TSA screening was immediately outside of the gate areas. When I flew in there last month, the screening has moved into the hallway that leads back to the gate area, which moved the entrance of the bar and restaurant into a post-TSA check area only. It did seem to move much faster with this new setup, which was very nice.
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Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:43 pm

Does anyone think that F9 will give FWA a try? G4 has proved that ULCCs work here, and F9 goes into small cities. I’m surprised that IND is still their only Indiana destination given their presences in other states.

I’ll even go out and say that FWA, SBN, and EVV could all support F9 in some form or another.


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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:45 pm

Is there any update on the FWA plan to expand their terminal?

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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:13 pm

Any updates on United starting FWA or SBN to DEN?

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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

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Any updates on United starting FWA or SBN to DEN?

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None Yet. When I was in SBN in October I talked about this with the local United folks. They said they knew they were going seasonal on the Newark flights and would like to offer a substitue of 1 or 2 daily flights to IAD since this is where UA was shifting connecting flights. They also said that they would like to offer 2 daily E170 flights to DEN as this would inprove connections vs. ORD

The reasoning behind DEN is that UA flies a lot of Asians out of SBN connecting to the Far East on their morning connecting flights to ORD and if there are weather or ATC delays they cannot service these passengers very well. They pointed out to UA management that these are high dollar passengers who generlly fly business or First out of ORD and there is a desire to offer them alternative connections in DEN. They also said they have F9's figures out of SBN (When they flew to SBN) and that they could fill 2 daily E170 flights.

My own belief is that a perfect balance for UA at SBN is to offer 3 daily 50-seater flights to ORD, 2 daily E170 flights to DEN, and 1 or 2 daily 50-seater flights to IAD. Then throw in the 2 daily seasonal 50-seater flights to EWR.
 
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Re: Re: Indiana State Aviation: Part 16

Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:03 pm

csturdiv wrote:
Anybody know when EVV redesigned the TSA screening? Two years ago when I was back home for Christmas, the TSA screening was immediately outside of the gate areas. When I flew in there last month, the screening has moved into the hallway that leads back to the gate area, which moved the entrance of the bar and restaurant into a post-TSA check area only. It did seem to move much faster with this new setup, which was very nice.


Here's an article discussing the ribbon cutting for the project. The terminal improvements were announced in late 2017.

http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/st ... provements
 
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Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:37 pm

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csturdiv wrote:
Anybody know when EVV redesigned the TSA screening? Two years ago when I was back home for Christmas, the TSA screening was immediately outside of the gate areas. When I flew in there last month, the screening has moved into the hallway that leads back to the gate area, which moved the entrance of the bar and restaurant into a post-TSA check area only. It did seem to move much faster with this new setup, which was very nice.


Here's an article discussing the ribbon cutting for the project. The terminal improvements were announced in late 2017.

http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/st ... provements


Thanks, looks like it wrapped up just before the holiday season.
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Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:55 pm

FWA posts 9th straight year for increasing outbound passenger numbers, and starts planning to expand its terminal. Airport authority to commission plan to build expansion onto terminal building.

http://www.journalgazette.net/news/loca ... or-airport

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Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:17 pm

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Skywest has taken over all American Eagle CJ700 flying at SBN and FWA to both CLT and DFW. Looks like then they can do overnight maintenance on the aircraft at both of their Indiana bases.


Unfortunately that makes it such that you have to expect more delays with Skywest, no matter the carrier you're on. It's a shame that something other than OO doesn't serve SBN/FWA.
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Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:48 pm

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FWA posts 9th straight year for increasing outbound passenger numbers, and starts planning to expand its terminal. Airport authority to commission plan to build expansion onto terminal building.

http://www.journalgazette.net/news/loca ... or-airport

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Also of note: Third consecutive year of record traffic. Pretty impressive if you ask me. Notably, G4 still grew at FWA even with their growth at IND, largely due to the switch to an all-Airbus fleet with more seats. And to be fair, G4 has helped all Indiana airports that currently receive passenger service. With G4 in growth mode again after the Airbus transition, I bet the return of LAS is coming, and maybe another East Coast vacation city (CHS or SRQ are my bets - FL got 10% of their IND-SRQ pax from the Fort Wayne area and seriously considered FWA-SRQ and other FWA routes before the WN merger).

For the terminal renovation and expansion, I wonder if this is part of FWA’s plans to reduce terminal congestion at peak hours. The FWACAA prefers more frequencies on larger RJs over mainline when it comes to upgauging, so if that is the case, they need to go from 8 to 12 gates.


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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:48 pm

Skywest has taken over all American Eagle CJ700 flying at SBN and FWA to both CLT and DFW. Looks like then they can do overnight maintenance on the aircraft at both of their Indiana bases.

Indeed, SBN seems to be almost exclusively Skywest now, all CRJ (be it 1,2, or 7). Endeavour still has a CRJ9 flight to ATL. Does the SBN MX station not do e-jets?

Given this I would expect that if SBN-DEN became reality soon it would be on a CRJ7.
 
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Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:04 pm

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Skywest has taken over all American Eagle CJ700 flying at SBN and FWA to both CLT and DFW. Looks like then they can do overnight maintenance on the aircraft at both of their Indiana bases.

Indeed, SBN seems to be almost exclusively Skywest now, all CRJ (be it 1,2, or 7). Endeavour still has a CRJ9 flight to ATL. Does the SBN MX station not do e-jets?

Given this I would expect that if SBN-DEN became reality soon it would be on a CRJ7.


Not sure about SBN, but SkyWest FWA MX has plans for E-Jets. Currently, FWA does CRJ-200 and CRJ-700 MX and can handle the CRJ-900 should UA or DL use them at FWA. The equipment for E-Jets is there at FWA MX, but currently not in use.


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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:49 am

A DL plane slid off a runway at FWA an hour or so ago, whilst taxying for departure to ATL. The 51 passengers were deplaned and taken back to the terminal, and the plane was in the process of being towed back. This is due to the runway treatment fluid being diluted by rain, making conditions icy.

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Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:10 am

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Skywest has taken over all American Eagle CJ700 flying at SBN and FWA to both CLT and DFW. Looks like then they can do overnight maintenance on the aircraft at both of their Indiana bases.

Indeed, SBN seems to be almost exclusively Skywest now, all CRJ (be it 1,2, or 7). Endeavour still has a CRJ9 flight to ATL. Does the SBN MX station not do e-jets?

Given this I would expect that if SBN-DEN became reality soon it would be on a CRJ7.


Delta doesn't operate any 175's out of the ATL hub, which is the reason you don't see them for DL. Also, no "u" in Endeavor.
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:06 am

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A DL plane slid off a runway at FWA an hour or so ago, whilst taxying for departure to ATL. The 51 passengers were deplaned and taken back to the terminal, and the plane was in the process of being towed back. This is due to the runway treatment fluid being diluted by rain, making conditions icy.

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/wi ... 1717243705

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The SkyWest MX base fixed the plane and pax made it to ATL several hours later. No injuries.


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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:03 am

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Skywest has taken over all American Eagle CJ700 flying at SBN and FWA to both CLT and DFW. Looks like then they can do overnight maintenance on the aircraft at both of their Indiana bases.

Indeed, SBN seems to be almost exclusively Skywest now, all CRJ (be it 1,2, or 7). Endeavour still has a CRJ9 flight to ATL. Does the SBN MX station not do e-jets?

Given this I would expect that if SBN-DEN became reality soon it would be on a CRJ7.


Or maybe F9 returning seasonally 3 times weekly with Airbus A319's. I wouldn't count them out . They grossed over 4 million dollars from their previous venture into SBN and served over 21,000 passengers in and over 21,000 out of SBN. They seem to be on an expansion moide again out of DEN.

United people I recently talked to at SBN said they are pushing for 2 daily E175 flights to DEN.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:11 am

OO has been doing maintenance on their Delta Connection CRJ2's and recently American Eagle CRJ7's at SBN.
 
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https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... v-2018.pdf

Do not have the numbers for December yet but looks like traffic really took off at SBN this past year thanks to AA returning. International GA flights were also up.
 
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https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Composite-Stats-11-Nov-2018.pdf

Do not have the numbers for December yet but looks like traffic really took off at SBN this past year thanks to AA returning. International GA flights were also up.


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Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:57 pm

Here are SBN's final figures for 2018. This means that the airport served over 750,000 airline passengers last year when you add in a likewise number of deplanements. The addition of American added to that count and also Allegiant's traffic was up 41/2 Percent over 2017. Looks like Project Propel is working

https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... c-2018.pdf
 
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Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:41 am

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Here are SBN's final figures for 2018. This means that the airport served over 750,000 airline passengers last year when you add in a likewise number of deplanements. The addition of American added to that count and also Allegiant's traffic was up 41/2 Percent over 2017. Looks like Project Propel is working

https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... c-2018.pdf


FWA was 33 enplaned passengers daily ahead of SBN in 2018. Neck-and-neck. Good stuff for both airports. A single flight difference.
 
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Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:42 am

I have the totals now in this article. A total of 735,000 airline passengers for SBN in 2018. If figures drop this January and February it will be because of weather related flight cancellations.

https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/b ... 1c7e2.html
 
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Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:45 am

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Here are SBN's final figures for 2018. This means that the airport served over 750,000 airline passengers last year when you add in a likewise number of deplanements. The addition of American added to that count and also Allegiant's traffic was up 41/2 Percent over 2017. Looks like Project Propel is working

https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... c-2018.pdf


FWA was 33 enplaned passengers daily ahead of SBN in 2018. Neck-and-neck. Good stuff for both airports. A single flight difference.


That represents a daily flight they have to PHL which I'll bet we will get this year. If we could also add a daily United flight to Dulles and two daily flifghts to Denver we would jump ahead of FWA.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:48 pm

Interesting article on Airport Infrstructure Funding. SBN needs a rebuild of the terminal ramp taking out all the slopes etc. Cost is about 3.5 million. The Airport also could replace the jetbridges on Gates 5-8 with one similar to the one Allegiant uses on Gate 9 which is computer driven and has built in A/C aircraft hookups in addition to the Aircraft electrical hookups.

https://airportscouncil.org/advocacy/ai ... e-funding/
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:37 am

Did United end SBN-EWR recently??
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:42 am

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Did United end SBN-EWR recently??


It’s now seasonal service during Notre Dame football season only. FWA-EWR was ended several months before as well along with several other EWR routes that relied on connections.

On a different note, no news at FWA as of late aside from planning for the terminal expansion and renovation that will take place next year and DL currently running a CR9 trial on ATL. Maybe a new G4 route? Maybe F9?


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Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:28 pm

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Did United end SBN-EWR recently??


Yes. Will resume seasonaly twice daily in early September and run through Dec 15th. United has removed most RJ flying out of congested Newark and is in the process of moving East Coast regional jet connecting traffic to IAD. The South Bend Newark flights were well used and local United folks have asked for a daily IAD flight in addition to twice daily E175 flights to Denver. No word on either yet.

DL has had a CRJ900 flight to Atlanta for a long time now. It used to be on the 1 pm flight and is now the last flight of the day. DL has also added a CRJ900 flight to DTW and it is scheduled as the last flight of the day both flights operate in the 4-5pm hour.

There is also talk among local officials of AA adding a daily American Eagle flight to PHL.

January traffic figures are out and traffic at SBN has increased another 12 percent over last year which was a stellar year for SBN. The addition of American and Project Propel are working.

I'm just wondering that if United does not add a Denver connecting option if Frointier might jump back in given the improved SBN traffic figures.
 
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:59 pm

Looks like we had an aircraft substitution on Delta's 8 am morning flight from SBN to ATL this morning. Flight 4049 is being operated by Skywest on a CRJ9 to complement the evening Endeavor Air CRJ9 flight to ATL. Demand is there with Skywest able to work on any of their CRJ fleet models in SBN this will probably be the norm at least during the busier travel season. It has also been rumored in the past that Delta would like to convert all SBN-ATL flights to CRJ9's to be able to offer First and Economy Comfort seating on their busiest SBN route and to allow space for their local non revs that have to commute to ATL.
 
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:51 pm

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Looks like we had an aircraft substitution on Delta's 8 am morning flight from SBN to ATL this morning. Flight 4049 is being operated by Skywest on a CRJ9 to complement the evening Endeavor Air CRJ9 flight to ATL. Demand is there with Skywest able to work on any of their CRJ fleet models in SBN this will probably be the norm at least during the busier travel season. It has also been rumored in the past that Delta would like to convert all SBN-ATL flights to CRJ9's to be able to offer First and Economy Comfort seating on their busiest SBN route and to allow space for their local non revs that have to commute to ATL.


They did the same thing monday night inbound/tuesday morning outbound at FWA. It's more because they've got some 200's down for MX and needed a plane than anything else.
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Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:09 am

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Looks like we had an aircraft substitution on Delta's 8 am morning flight from SBN to ATL this morning. Flight 4049 is being operated by Skywest on a CRJ9 to complement the evening Endeavor Air CRJ9 flight to ATL. Demand is there with Skywest able to work on any of their CRJ fleet models in SBN this will probably be the norm at least during the busier travel season. It has also been rumored in the past that Delta would like to convert all SBN-ATL flights to CRJ9's to be able to offer First and Economy Comfort seating on their busiest SBN route and to allow space for their local non revs that have to commute to ATL.


They did the same thing monday night inbound/tuesday morning outbound at FWA. It's more because they've got some 200's down for MX and needed a plane than anything else.


OK. The funny thing is they could use the extra seats on those morning flights out of both airports because those flights are really full. They also have trouble getting local no revs to ATL. The flight is pretty long to put people through on the CRJ2. Being able to offer a multi class product on the more comfortable CRJ9 would also boost revenue.
 
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Looks like we had an aircraft substitution on Delta's 8 am morning flight from SBN to ATL this morning. Flight 4049 is being operated by Skywest on a CRJ9 to complement the evening Endeavor Air CRJ9 flight to ATL. Demand is there with Skywest able to work on any of their CRJ fleet models in SBN this will probably be the norm at least during the busier travel season. It has also been rumored in the past that Delta would like to convert all SBN-ATL flights to CRJ9's to be able to offer First and Economy Comfort seating on their busiest SBN route and to allow space for their local non revs that have to commute to ATL.


They did the same thing monday night inbound/tuesday morning outbound at FWA. It's more because they've got some 200's down for MX and needed a plane than anything else.


OK. The funny thing is they could use the extra seats on those morning flights out of both airports because those flights are really full. They also have trouble getting local no revs to ATL. The flight is pretty long to put people through on the CRJ2. Being able to offer a multi class product on the more comfortable CRJ9 would also boost revenue.


At the end of the day, with the current fleet, Delta feels they can make more money using them elsewhere. As more A220's come on property, you will start to see ATL flying up-gauged, IMO. Might involve a change in carriers too, as OO is far from the largest CR9 carrier.
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

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They did the same thing monday night inbound/tuesday morning outbound at FWA. It's more because they've got some 200's down for MX and needed a plane than anything else.


OK. The funny thing is they could use the extra seats on those morning flights out of both airports because those flights are really full. They also have trouble getting local no revs to ATL. The flight is pretty long to put people through on the CRJ2. Being able to offer a multi class product on the more comfortable CRJ9 would also boost revenue.


At the end of the day, with the current fleet, Delta feels they can make more money using them elsewhere. As more A220's come on property, you will start to see ATL flying up-gauged, IMO. Might involve a change in carriers too, as OO is far from the largest CR9 carrier.


Yes and what I understand there is still a tug of war going on in SBN over rebuilding the ramp and improving the jetbridges for Delta to the type that Allegiant has on Gate 9 so that Delta can bring bigger jets into SBN. As more A220's come on the property The 717's and CR9's will get pushed out to cities like SBN and FWA.

With the Project Propel initiative at SBN the airport has seen major increases for all the carriers and on American selling of the First Class seating. Several times now American has had sold out the two daily flights to Charlotte. This week all Charlotte flights were sold out from Wednesday thru Friday with first availability being Saturday. I tried to figure out why as there was no Notre Dame sports connection to any of it. All good news for the airport. A few thing I do wonder about: Does the airport have all approvals to run International service and if so are they working on the flights to the Yucatan for next season? (The US Customs facility has been up and running for GA for some time now.) Is American going to offer a PHL flight similar to FWA. Is United going to offer flights to DEN and IAD?
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:11 pm

Looks like Allegiant has applied for permission to offer scheduled service to Mexico ,both from large and small cities. One of the city pairs that had been previously mentioned is SBN-CUN. The new US Customs facility at SBN was built expressly for this purpose and can process 200 pax per hour. If Allegiant gets approval may SBN see it's first International flights as surveys show that over 15,000 passengers a year travel from SBN and the surrounding area to the Yucatan.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:07 pm

SBN posted a major increase on Feb pax counts over 2018. Over a 27% increase. This is even with the seasonal shift of EWR. It should level off in June a bit since AA began their flights in June of 18.

https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... b-2019.pdf
 
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SBN posted a major increase on Feb pax counts over 2018. Over a 27% increase. This is even with the seasonal shift of EWR. It should level off in June a bit since AA began their flights in June of 18.

https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... b-2019.pdf


Yeah also because Skywest had a bunch of CRJ2's out of service Endeavor had to fill in with a bunch of CRJ9 flights with one each to DTW and ATL.

Looks like G4 also applied to fly to Mexico. Maybe SBN will get those Cancun flights next season.
 
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Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:58 pm

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SBN posted a major increase on Feb pax counts over 2018. Over a 27% increase. This is even with the seasonal shift of EWR. It should level off in June a bit since AA began their flights in June of 18.

https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... b-2019.pdf


Also it may be a good bet with Amazon putting in that distribution center near the airport we could see Amazon Prime Jets landing in SBN in the near future.
 
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Wed May 08, 2019 7:43 pm

https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/release ... rsity.html

Apparently an assembly plant for Saab training aircraft in a joint venture with Boeing. Nice project. Lots of interesting aviation related manufacturing in the area: Alcoa Aluminum produces skins and extrusions for both Boeing and Airbus, GE builds 737 engines there, and Rolls Royce has an engineering and technology center near the site of the proposed Saab facility.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 08, 2019 10:15 pm

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https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2019/Q2/saabs-global-defense-and-security-company-lands-in-indiana,-to-open-site-near-purdue-university.html

Apparently an assembly plant for Saab training aircraft in a joint venture with Boeing. Nice project. Lots of interesting aviation related manufacturing in the area: Alcoa Aluminum produces skins and extrusions for both Boeing and Airbus, GE builds 737 engines there, and Rolls Royce has an engineering and technology center near the site of the proposed Saab facility.


Interesting development happening in that area, maybe it will eventually warrant a return of passenger air service to LAF
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Wed May 08, 2019 10:20 pm

If Lafayette area get's the USDA office I think a twice daily to DTW might work or ORD.

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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 08, 2019 11:44 pm

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If Lafayette area get's the USDA office I think a twice daily to DTW might work or ORD.

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Yeah as Netbucks mentioned above, that area has quite a corporate concentration for such a small town. But I don't see any passenger service coming back in the next 5 years.

Rolls-Royce, Caterpillar, Saab, Subaru, Arconic, Evonik, GE Aviaiton, Wabash National, plus additional travel from a huge university nearby. You would think AA, DL, or UA might be willing to look at it, but the airport hasn't made an effort to attract service, and having IND so close doesn't help.
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 09, 2019 12:06 am

Midwestindy wrote:

Rolls-Royce, Caterpillar, Saab, Subaru, Arconic, Evonik, GE Aviaiton, Wabash National, plus additional travel from a huge university nearby. You would think AA, DL, or UA might be willing to look at it, but the airport hasn't made an effort to attract service, and having IND so close doesn't help.


LAF’s 2014 master plan includes a new passenger terminal, and a while ago there was a local news article about the airport working to bring back airline service.
Also, the Hoosier state Amtrak, which saw decent numbers from greater Lafayette is being cut, which could open a spot for the airport to come in. And obviously, there’s the university and area which is growing at an insane rate. When the airport last had service, the county was in recession and at ~145,000 people, as opposed to now where it’s ~200,000 people and rapidly growing.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu May 09, 2019 2:22 pm

netbucks wrote:
https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2019/Q2/saabs-global-defense-and-security-company-lands-in-indiana,-to-open-site-near-purdue-university.html

Apparently an assembly plant for Saab training aircraft in a joint venture with Boeing. Nice project. Lots of interesting aviation related manufacturing in the area: Alcoa Aluminum produces skins and extrusions for both Boeing and Airbus, GE builds 737 engines there, and Rolls Royce has an engineering and technology center near the site of the proposed Saab facility.


GE also has an engine technology center in SBN in conjuction with Notre Dame University
 
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Thu May 09, 2019 2:27 pm

A little news out of SBN in regard to AA. The AA flights into SBN are no longer flow thru's. The DFW flights are operated by Skywest and the CLT flights are operated by PSA. I think this was done to improve the reliability of the CLT flights. Also CLT flights should get better as AA gets more gates in CLT.
 
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Fri May 10, 2019 6:49 pm

freakyrat wrote:
A little news out of SBN in regard to AA. The AA flights into SBN are no longer flow thru's. The DFW flights are operated by Skywest and the CLT flights are operated by PSA. I think this was done to improve the reliability of the CLT flights. Also CLT flights should get better as AA gets more gates in CLT.


What do you mean they're no longer flow thru's? I only that terminology in regards to pilots transitioning from regional to mainline once they accrue seniority.
 
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Fri May 10, 2019 7:53 pm

alancostello wrote:
freakyrat wrote:
A little news out of SBN in regard to AA. The AA flights into SBN are no longer flow thru's. The DFW flights are operated by Skywest and the CLT flights are operated by PSA. I think this was done to improve the reliability of the CLT flights. Also CLT flights should get better as AA gets more gates in CLT.


What do you mean they're no longer flow thru's? I only that terminology in regards to pilots transitioning from regional to mainline once they accrue seniority.


The planes were routed DFW-SBN-CLT-SBN-DFW. So a delay out of DFW would cascade the entire day. Now its OO on DFW-SBN-DFW and OH (PSA) on CLT-SBN-CLT. FWA-CLT is also on PSA, currently I believe. Until SBN & FWA can get consistently bigger airplanes outside of OO, the delays will continue. Simply by virtue of both being OO MX bases, there will be delays and reschedules to get the broken airplanes to a base to fix them, which means FWA & SBN suffer. Hopefully the 1x daily ATL-FWA on 9E (and the now ended 1x ATL-SBN on 9E) CR9's can stick.
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat May 11, 2019 8:16 pm

alancostello wrote:
freakyrat wrote:
A little news out of SBN in regard to AA. The AA flights into SBN are no longer flow thru's. The DFW flights are operated by Skywest and the CLT flights are operated by PSA. I think this was done to improve the reliability of the CLT flights. Also CLT flights should get better as AA gets more gates in CLT.


What do you mean they're no longer flow thru's? I only that terminology in regards to pilots transitioning from regional to mainline once they accrue seniority.


AA used only two airplanes for the service starting on both ends. One was DFW-SBN-CLT. The other was CLT-SBN-DFW or a flow through of the same aircraft. Instead of two airplanes now they are using four.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat May 11, 2019 8:20 pm

The 9E CR9's were used on a daily SBN-ATL and a daily SBN-DTW flight to cover for OO's broken CRJ2's and maybe crew shortages.

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