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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat May 11, 2019 8:23 pm

The maintenance bases at SBN and FWA can work on the OO American Eagle CR7's however I think the prime CR7 maintenace base for the American Eagle jets is in BTR.
 
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Tue May 14, 2019 7:53 pm

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The maintenance bases at SBN and FWA can work on the OO American Eagle CR7's however I think the prime CR7 maintenace base for the American Eagle jets is in BTR.


SkyWest FWA MX gets AA CR7s from ORD, CLT, and DFW, DL CR9s on occasion, and CR2s for AA (ORD), UA (ORD), and DL (ATL, MSP, DTW). They are training for the E175 as I speak, and though I’m not 100% certain, DL/ATL will likely be the first OO E-Jet route from FWA so DL can compete with AA’s F product to CLT.


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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 15, 2019 12:20 pm

When American Eagle came back to SBN it had the opposite effect that anyone would have thought. They didn't siphon off traffic from other carriers in fact traffic increased at DL and UA. With reference to DL moving E-jets into FWA, It is probably a little ways off yet as both cities SBN and FWA can use the lift to ATL and we have to deal with aircraft and crew availability. I would suspect services would begin next spring. Outside of maintenance issues with the OO CR2's requiring 9E to take some flights at both cities for awhile, I feel DL also used it as a test to see where larger aircraft could be made to work. Project Propel is also helping SBN boost traffic benefitting all the carriers.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 9:48 pm

SBN Enplanements up 27% in March. If this can start a trend and continue then enplanements could easily hit 465,000 for the year.
 
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When American Eagle came back to SBN it had the opposite effect that anyone would have thought. They didn't siphon off traffic from other carriers in fact traffic increased at DL and UA. With reference to DL moving E-jets into FWA, It is probably a little ways off yet as both cities SBN and FWA can use the lift to ATL and we have to deal with aircraft and crew availability. I would suspect services would begin next spring. Outside of maintenance issues with the OO CR2's requiring 9E to take some flights at both cities for awhile, I feel DL also used it as a test to see where larger aircraft could be made to work. Project Propel is also helping SBN boost traffic benefitting all the carriers.


Had the opposite effect that some expected at FWA, too. A small amount of FWA-DFW/CLT pax came from the SBN area, so naturally, the FWACAA was worried at first. This was especially true for the Warsaw market because AA has the Zimmer Biomet travel contract, and Zimmer Biomet fills up the F cabin on FWA-DFW. AA still grew their pax numbers at FWA even after SBN was added back to the AA route network, so FWA did just fine.

What really was stopped was leakage among AAdvantage members living in Michiana that went to ORD to fly AA.


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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed May 22, 2019 12:04 pm

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When American Eagle came back to SBN it had the opposite effect that anyone would have thought. They didn't siphon off traffic from other carriers in fact traffic increased at DL and UA. With reference to DL moving E-jets into FWA, It is probably a little ways off yet as both cities SBN and FWA can use the lift to ATL and we have to deal with aircraft and crew availability. I would suspect services would begin next spring. Outside of maintenance issues with the OO CR2's requiring 9E to take some flights at both cities for awhile, I feel DL also used it as a test to see where larger aircraft could be made to work. Project Propel is also helping SBN boost traffic benefitting all the carriers.


Had the opposite effect that some expected at FWA, too. A small amount of FWA-DFW/CLT pax came from the SBN area, so naturally, the FWACAA was worried at first. This was especially true for the Warsaw market because AA has the Zimmer Biomet travel contract, and Zimmer Biomet fills up the F cabin on FWA-DFW. AA still grew their pax numbers at FWA even after SBN was added back to the AA route network, so FWA did just fine.

What really was stopped was leakage among AAdvantage members living in Michiana that went to ORD to fly AA.
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I'm not sure but I think tht the employees of Warsaw's Zimmer Biomet tht live closer to SBN can take the DFW flights out of SBN without having to drive the extra distance to FWA. Someone is buying those F Cabin seats. Both cities are doing well on DFW and surprisingly the SBN-CLT flights do quite well. Lot of locals are also waiting for AA to announce flights from SBN-PHL which could possibly start within the next 18 mos.

Project Propel and the return of AA to SBN jumpstarted everything and what the locals would like to see is for UA to resume DEN flights that haven't operated by them since the early 70's. Local UA folks said that they could reasonably offer Two daily E175 flights.
 
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SBN has put out a bid for a consulting and engineering firm to develop a new Airport Master Plan for the airport.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:55 am

April's numbers from SBN should be interesting with the Delta CRJ700 and 900 substitutions on ATL and DTW flights.

In other news UA's last R/T flight to and from ORD is now operated by Go-Jet with a CRJ700. In September the two daily UA (Expressjet) E145 flights to EWR return and OO takes over the last daily R/T to ORD with an E175.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:26 pm

United today announced special game day service for the upcoming fall college football season.
SBN will be getting mainline service FROM LAX, and Express service TO ATL & RDU.


Tweet: https://twitter.com/united/status/1141771445694947328
Press Release: https://hub.united.com/united-seasonal-college-football-routes-2638932205.html?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

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September 21 University of Notre Dame at University of Georgia SBN - ATL Arrive: 9/20 Returns: 9/22 E175
October 12 University of Southern California at University of Notre Dame LAX - SBN Arrive: 10/11 Returns: 10/13 737-900
November 9 University of Notre Dame at Duke University SBN - RDU Arrive: 11/8 Returns: 11/10 E175
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:29 am

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United today announced special game day service for the upcoming fall college football season.
SBN will be getting mainline service FROM LAX, and Express service TO ATL & RDU.


Tweet: https://twitter.com/united/status/1141771445694947328
Press Release: https://hub.united.com/united-seasonal-college-football-routes-2638932205.html?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

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September 21 University of Notre Dame at University of Georgia SBN - ATL Arrive: 9/20 Returns: 9/22 E175
October 12 University of Southern California at University of Notre Dame LAX - SBN Arrive: 10/11 Returns: 10/13 737-900
November 9 University of Notre Dame at Duke University SBN - RDU Arrive: 11/8 Returns: 11/10 E175


I guess United Express will have to bring in some 737-900 towbars and and additional push tractor. The Newark flights will also return for football season.

We also do not know if Delta has any special flights to announce for these games like swapping out for larger aircraft on the Atlanta flights for the Georgia game.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:36 pm

Pretty cool. That’s the first scheduled United mainline flight into SBN since the early 80s before they cancelled the DEN and FWA service and went all Express. This will also be the first scheduled flight to LAX for SBN (Albeit only one flight for a football game).
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:33 pm

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Pretty cool. That’s the first scheduled United mainline flight into SBN since the early 80s before they cancelled the DEN and FWA service and went all Express. This will also be the first scheduled flight to LAX for SBN (Albeit only one flight for a football game).


Frankly I do not know why United doesn't run mainline into SBN on Notre Dame Football weekends in a similar fashion as Delta does.

First scheduled nonstop to LAX. Piedmont had a few via DAY when they had the hub at DAY.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:16 pm

Any progress on the possibility of AA starting SBN-PHL? Thought it would have been announced by now if it was happening.
 
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Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:28 pm

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Pretty cool. That’s the first scheduled United mainline flight into SBN since the early 80s before they cancelled the DEN and FWA service and went all Express. This will also be the first scheduled flight to LAX for SBN (Albeit only one flight for a football game).


Frankly I do not know why United doesn't run mainline into SBN on Notre Dame Football weekends in a similar fashion as Delta does.

First scheduled nonstop to LAX. Piedmont had a few via DAY when they had the hub at DAY.


United has just recently started sports related upgauges. I suspect if this seasons P2P routes do well that we will see additional in the future.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:33 am

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Any progress on the possibility of AA starting SBN-PHL? Thought it would have been announced by now if it was happening.


None yet I just know that the contractor (Corporate Wings) personnel that handle AA at SBN were supposedly told to expect the service within 18 months.
I do think that on somedays AA could also use a CRJ900 at SBN for both the DFW and CLT flights as lately one or both flights sell out on certain days.

Traffic has been up for all airlines at SBN. The Airport served 192,000 air passengers in the first quarter and if this keeps up should easily serve 700,000 airline passengers this year.
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:36 am

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jetskipper wrote:
Pretty cool. That’s the first scheduled United mainline flight into SBN since the early 80s before they cancelled the DEN and FWA service and went all Express. This will also be the first scheduled flight to LAX for SBN (Albeit only one flight for a football game).


Frankly I do not know why United doesn't run mainline into SBN on Notre Dame Football weekends in a similar fashion as Delta does.

First scheduled nonstop to LAX. Piedmont had a few via DAY when they had the hub at DAY.


United has just recently started sports related upgauges. I suspect if this seasons P2P routes do well that we will see additional in the future.


Also I cannot understand with the ORD flights up requiring a CRJ700 and or E175 on the last flight of the day with more of these aircraft to come in future months that United hasn't opened SBN-DEN.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:43 pm

Liverpool flew into SBN this morning on an Atlas 747-400 for the Liverpool FC vs Borussia Dortmund match Friday evening. Dortmund will be coming from Seattle after a match Thursday evening. Anyone know who they charter?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /EGCC/KSBN
 
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:04 pm

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Liverpool flew into SBN this morning on an Atlas 747-400 for the Liverpool FC vs Borussia Dortmund match Friday evening. Dortmund will be coming from Seattle after a match Thursday evening. Anyone know who they charter?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /EGCC/KSBN


I checked Flightaware and cannot find a flight from SEA-SBN yet.
 
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:22 pm

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Liverpool flew into SBN this morning on an Atlas 747-400 for the Liverpool FC vs Borussia Dortmund match Friday evening. Dortmund will be coming from Seattle after a match Thursday evening. Anyone know who they charter?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /EGCC/KSBN


I checked Flightaware and cannot find a flight from SEA-SBN yet.



SBN has photos on Facebook page.First use of FIS. Also announced opening of Global Entry Enrollment Center

https://www.facebook.com/FlySBN/posts/2844853278864448
 
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:39 pm

It appears Borussia Dortmund is using DLs VIP 752 charter.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KBFI/KSBN
 
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Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:05 pm

May numbers are in for SBN. Enplanements up another 24% over last year. Good Showing but I would go conservative here and reserve judgement on traffic trends until we get June and July's numbers because this increase essentially represents AA passengers as AA didn't begin serving SBN until mid June of last year.


https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... y-2019.pdf
 
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Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:31 pm

In other SBN news engineering is presently going on for a project to replace the terminal aircraft parking ramp. This would involve levelling the ramp taking out all the slopes. Matching it up with Taxiway B. Replacing all the pavement with concrete. The ramp sorely needs a complete rebuild and the project is estimated to cost 3.5 million dollars.
 
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Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:16 pm

SBN terminal renovation phase 1 is out for bid

https://flysbn.com/sbn/business/
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:26 am

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SBN terminal renovation phase 1 is out for bid

https://flysbn.com/sbn/business/


Hard to believe but they are actually going to start on this. They already did the ticket counters. The Rental Car counters could easily get the same treatment. The color treatment in the booklet will make the airport terminal look a bit like BMI's inside. I found out that this first phase was coming when I was home last year.
 
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SBN terminal renovation phase 1 is out for bid

https://flysbn.com/sbn/business/


Hard to believe but they are actually going to start on this. They already did the ticket counters. The Rental Car counters could easily get the same treatment. The color treatment in the booklet will make the airport terminal look a bit like BMI's inside. I found out that this first phase was coming when I was home last year.


FWA started seeing changes too. New signs arrived at the terminal parking lots and pax drop-off/pick-up around the same time they were reconfigured. The font is now easier to read (the airport is switching from a mix of Futura and FF Meta to Frutiger 45 Light across the board) and the signs are now in a medium blue (some signs were teal before).

I did see where FWA wants to start its own ground handling unit to bring in more service. Not a new idea; many airports have done this for the exact same reason. FWA is asking for a SCASD grant to fund the equipment purchases, but I expect this to happen regardless - this has F9 written all over it, plus the FWACAA can make this part of their Aero Center airport-owned FBO offering.


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Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:57 pm

I would anticipate the SBN terminal renovation plus the main ramp rebuild to be part of a 5 to 10 yr plan to cost close to 30 million dollars If you see how it looks in the Airport Facilities Proposal book on their website. I'll probably throw in some of the renovated jetways like the one G4 uses on Gate 9. SBN also applied for an SCASD grant to get F9 back or help UA get started an resume service to DEN. Local United folks have the enplane data from F9's short lived service at SBN and estimate that they coud offer two daily E175 roundtrips to DEN and do those profitably. Alternate is to probably get year round NYC service. It did work at SBN with the EWR flights but UA pulled them and made them seasonal because of the congestion at their EWR hub. The whole SBN terminal renovation proposal booklet is on the flysbn webnsite.

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Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:05 pm

At SBN American uses a local contracted ground handling plus ticket counter agents etc. from the Corporate Wings FBO.
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:22 pm

AA also announced in July that they will add flights to DCA for the UVA and VT games. Also adding a flight to ORD for connecting traffic coming to the USC game.The DCA flights will be PSA CRJ7
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:42 pm

I don't see any DL additional flights for football season. Have they announced these? Are they not doing any? Doesn't even seem that they are upgauging.
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:46 pm

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SBN has put out a bid for a consulting and engineering firm to develop a new Airport Master Plan for the airport.


Is this different than the one on their website put out in 2016? seems odd that they would need a new master plan with this one only 3 years old.
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:16 pm

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I don't see any DL additional flights for football season. Have they announced these? Are they not doing any? Doesn't even seem that they are upgauging.


Those are usually done about a month before. I know UA is doing some extra flights for ND away games and reference that it appears that the airport has done or is doing some pavement replacement at Gate 8 for the B737-900 that UA is going to use for the USC game.

I would definitely look for some additional flights from AA and DL upguages for the Virginia game on Sept 28th and the USC game on Oct 12th.
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:19 pm

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SBN has put out a bid for a consulting and engineering firm to develop a new Airport Master Plan for the airport.


Is this different than the one on their website put out in 2016? seems odd that they would need a new master plan with this one only 3 years old.


Its a request for Qualifications and Consulting in regard to the master plan.

https://flysbn.com/wp-content/uploads/2 ... R-PLAN.pdf
 
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:21 pm

Just a proposition here. Does anyone think that with the new FIS that SBN could land a daily flight or two on Porter to YTZ?
 
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Just a proposition here. Does anyone think that with the new FIS that SBN could land a daily flight or two on Porter to YTZ?


Not a chance. There are many bigger cities that Porter would try long before SBN.
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Just a proposition here. Does anyone think that with the new FIS that SBN could land a daily flight or two on Porter to YTZ?


Not a chance. There are many bigger cities that Porter would try long before SBN.


Also to note, they tried PIT and it failed.
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Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:25 pm

Looks like FWA is on track for a fourth record year in a row - and the first one without a new route. AA is the number one carrier at FWA with a 36% share and 60% of flights on two-class jets, which DL didn’t offer consistently until recently. There’s a joke that the morning AA departure/evening arrival to/from PHL is the “Lincoln Financial Express” given the monster presence of the company in both cities.

Also of note is that even with G4 growth at IND, G4 is growing their volume at FWA as well. Maybe we’ll finally get LAS back between that and the Allegiant Nonstop family entertainment center opening soon on Fort Wayne’s northeast side showing G4’s commitment to the area. SAV and VPS are also good possibilities, but I bet LAS comes first. The Raiders ain’t calling it Allegiant Stadium for nothing.

That said, if NYC returns, it will be to LGA this time. Probably on AA given AA’s growing strength at FWA - before the US merger, AA was second to DL; today, they are number one. The problem with EWR was that Fort Wayne strongly prefers LGA, and the fact that UA is the weakest carrier at FWA didn’t help matters either. Gotta find slots first, though...


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Just a proposition here. Does anyone think that with the new FIS that SBN could land a daily flight or two on Porter to YTZ?


Not a chance. There are many bigger cities that Porter would try long before SBN.


I decided to put this out there as it is a city mentioned by the airport when they built the FIS. I think if SBN does get a daily Toronto flight it will be in conjunction with United on Air Canada Jazz on a CRJ.
 
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Just a proposition here. Does anyone think that with the new FIS that SBN could land a daily flight or two on Porter to YTZ?


Not a chance. There are many bigger cities that Porter would try long before SBN.


I decided to put this out there as it is a city mentioned by the airport when they built the FIS. I think if SBN does get a daily Toronto flight it will be in conjunction with United on Air Canada Jazz on a CRJ.


FWA briefly had a flight to YYZ in 2000. It was on a Air Gregorian/AC B1900 because FWA’s CBP facility could not accommodate an airplane with more than 28 pax. A B1900 seats 19 plus 2 crew, well under the limit. Well before SBN’s CBP plans, local travel agents wanted to do FWA-CUN public charters in cooperation with a major tour operator, but the DHS vetoed the plans because of the 28 pax rule there.

The CBP facility at FWA has since moved from the Kitty Hawk hub (now Air Trade Center) to near the Aero Center FBO. I am unaware if it can handle large pax volume now or if the 28 pax rule stands. That said, then and now, it is used by biz jets and cargo.


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Not a chance. There are many bigger cities that Porter would try long before SBN.


I decided to put this out there as it is a city mentioned by the airport when they built the FIS. I think if SBN does get a daily Toronto flight it will be in conjunction with United on Air Canada Jazz on a CRJ.


FWA briefly had a flight to YYZ in 2000. It was on a Air Gregorian/AC B1900 because FWA’s CBP facility could not accommodate an airplane with more than 28 pax. A B1900 seats 19 plus 2 crew, well under the limit. Well before SBN’s CBP plans, local travel agents wanted to do FWA-CUN public charters in cooperation with a major tour operator, but the DHS vetoed the plans because of the 28 pax rule there.

The CBP facility at FWA has since moved from the Kitty Hawk hub (now Air Trade Center) to near the Aero Center FBO. I am unaware if it can handle large pax volume now or if the 28 pax rule stands. That said, then and now, it is used by biz jets and cargo.

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SBN has a full FIS and just handled a chartered B747-400.
 
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I decided to put this out there as it is a city mentioned by the airport when they built the FIS. I think if SBN does get a daily Toronto flight it will be in conjunction with United on Air Canada Jazz on a CRJ.


FWA briefly had a flight to YYZ in 2000. It was on a Air Gregorian/AC B1900 because FWA’s CBP facility could not accommodate an airplane with more than 28 pax. A B1900 seats 19 plus 2 crew, well under the limit. Well before SBN’s CBP plans, local travel agents wanted to do FWA-CUN public charters in cooperation with a major tour operator, but the DHS vetoed the plans because of the 28 pax rule there.

The CBP facility at FWA has since moved from the Kitty Hawk hub (now Air Trade Center) to near the Aero Center FBO. I am unaware if it can handle large pax volume now or if the 28 pax rule stands. That said, then and now, it is used by biz jets and cargo.

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SBN has a full FIS and just handled a chartered B747-400.


A city having FIS has no direct correlation on a city being able to support an international flight.
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:56 pm

US Customs regulations require a CBP/FIS at the destination airport even if the flight departs from a US Preclearance airport. SBN's FIS can clear 200 Pax Per Hour and maybe more. Another thing that is needed is the Interntional Arrival Airport has to have incineration facilities for trash off of the International flight. Getting the Incineration facilities at SBN approved by the USDA and all the paperwork in order was what held up the CBP Flight Inspection Station from opening at the same time the General Aviation Facility did. With all the approvals in order and the facility up and running officials at SBN can now work with G4 who has expressed interest in operating flights to CUN.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:06 am

I don't see AC coming to SBN anytime soon. They already serve 2 cities that are within 3 hours of SBN (ORD, IND), plus I doubt there would be anywhere near enough of a pull to support the route. I could name a dozen routes which AC would likely launch before SBN in no particular order:
PWM
ORF
GRR
SDF
CHS
MYR (Seasonal)
MSN

Nothing against SBN, but the airport isn't ready for YYZ service yet. CUN? That's one that could probably work on a seasonal basis.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:21 am

The SBN airport has DOT data that shows that 15,000 yearly trips to the Yucatan are made out of the Michiana area. The Airport was approached by G4 a few years ago concerning the establishment of a CBP facility as they wanted to fly to CUN. So SBN-CUN on G4 is a possibility. Also a Tour Operator approached the airport concerning a few charter flights to Nassau in the Bahamas. Nassau has Preclearance. ND is playing in Ireland again soon. Again Dublin has Preclearance. Even though some airports have Preclearance CBP is still required at the arriving US Airport. So the airport is working on seasonal CUN First.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:52 pm

This was just posted to Facebook by SBN. Any thoughts as to where? Hopefully PHL, DCA or Denver!

https://www.facebook.com/FlySBN/photos/ ... =3&theater
 
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:57 pm

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DCAFlyer01 wrote:
This was just posted to Facebook by SBN. Any thoughts as to where? Hopefully PHL, DCA or Denver!

https://www.facebook.com/FlySBN/photos/ ... =3&theater


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Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:58 pm

DCAFlyer01 wrote:
This was just posted to Facebook by SBN. Any thoughts as to where? Hopefully PHL, DCA or Denver!

https://www.facebook.com/FlySBN/photos/ ... =3&theater


With SRQ announcing a new service tomorrow as well I would say the announcement will be one of the following:

Allegiant: SBN-SRQ
United: DEN-SRQ/SBN
Frontier: DEN-SRQ/SBN
 
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Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:06 pm

freakyrat wrote:
[twoid][/twoid]
DCAFlyer01 wrote:
This was just posted to Facebook by SBN. Any thoughts as to where? Hopefully PHL, DCA or Denver!

https://www.facebook.com/FlySBN/photos/ ... =3&theater


SRQ on G4. Both Airports making announcements Tomorrow.


Don’t rule out FWA-SRQ tomorrow either. Over 10% of FL’s IND-SRQ pax came from the FWA catchment area.


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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:45 pm

I think it will dilute other G4 flights and wouldn't be surprised if at some point there is a frequency reduction to other Florida markets. This airport needs network service to non-Florida/leisure markets.
 
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Re: Indiana State Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:44 pm

A new destination for FWA was teased on the FWA Facebook page for tomorrow. This will bring FWA to 13 destinations served nonstop.

The comments section is all over the place - DEN, a return to NYC, LAS, and even WN making an entrance into the market. But as us a.netters know, it’s G4 FWA-SRQ.


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