Avianca Brasil announced today that the airline is cancelling flights to the 3 destinations from March, 31st.
According to the letter sent to its employees, they're setting operations according to its demands.
The airline had 10% of its fleet taken due to non-payment by lessors - 5 Airbus A320 (NEO & CEO)
and 1 Airbus A330-200, all of them less than 5 years old. 2 A20N have been relocated to Azul Linhas
Àereas Brasileiras (to be deliveried soon), one CEO is at painting shop to be deliveried to Air France
and two others have undisclosed costumers.
SAD NEWS from the best Brazilian airline.
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Are the only international routes left are the ones to BOG? Did they ever fly to EZE?
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pipeafcr wrote:Are the only international routes left are the ones to BOG? Did they ever fly to EZE?
It's not clear if AV or O6 will serve the BOG-GRU-BOG route. O6 did not fly to EZE, Avianca Argentina (or Avian - A0) is schedule to begin flights to GRU from AEP, not sure when it starts.
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O6 is not able to fly to BUE due to the restrictive bilateral that Argentina refuses to expand.
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It seems like the flights from FOR and SSA to BOG will remain as to keep exploiting the incentives offered by the state governments
Felipe Carrillo
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I understand that when the first A330 was returned the GRU-BOG route started being operated by Avianca Colombia.
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Looks like Avianca Brazil has started to cut routes and flights as they are returning most of its aircraft back to lessors. That is the most hard time for Brazilian aviation since the country's economic crisis back in few years ago. I also remember back in years ago LATAM and GOL also cut their fleet and routes because of lower demand and now Avianca Brazil is following as well.
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American and LATAM could increase their frequencies to MIA and JFK with this news?
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SQ789 wrote:That is the most hard time for Brazilian aviation since the country's economic crisis back in few years ago.
Things are relatively looking good for Azul and GOL, both reporting growing LF and yields, while adding capacity. Thanks to the improving economy scenario and capacity discipline they had during the last 3 years.
Avianca's mismanagmnet is to blame for the situation the airline is. Only one example: In 2016 while Brazil GDP plumetted to -3.5%, they added 23% ASK capacity.
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thgsr08 wrote:pipeafcr wrote:Are the only international routes left are the ones to BOG? Did they ever fly to EZE?
It's not clear if AV or O6 will serve the BOG-GRU-BOG route. O6 did not fly to EZE, Avianca Argentina (or Avian - A0) is schedule to begin flights to GRU from AEP, not sure when it starts.
Avianca Colombia has taken back the BOG route since O6 imploded. Avianca Argentina starts flying to GRU from AEP on Feb 5th, with 2 flights/day.
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Pulling out of MIA seems unnecessary due to the always high demand between MIA and SAO but with only one A330, O6 would be restricted in term of weekly frequencies and schedule.
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2travel2know2 wrote:Pulling out of MIA seems unnecessary due to the always high demand between MIA and SAO but with only one A330, O6 would be restricted in term of weekly frequencies and schedule.
You do understand the airline is bankrupt with a good chunk of the fleet being repossessed, don't you?
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Aggressive expansion is what killed Avianca Brazil, what made them think they could just waltz into Sao Paulo -Miami and JFK and AA & TAM would leave them alone ?
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jfk777 wrote:Attracting passengers by the brand "Avianca" and its link with Star Alliance?Aggressive expansion is what killed Avianca Brazil, what made them think they could just waltz into Sao Paulo -Miami and JFK and AA & TAM would leave them alone ?
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2travel2know2 wrote:Attracting passengers by the brand "Avianca" and its link with Star Alliance?
The Avianca brand does not have the same equity in deep South America as it has in Colombia, Panama, etc. It is just another airline brand. American Airlines & LATAM dominate US-Brazil routes, together with DL & UA to a lesser extent. No amount of AV and Star Alliance pedigree could have saved Avianca Brazil's international follies (and domestic too). At a time when Brazil was going thru its deepest recession in a century (2014-2016) Efromovich's Synergy threw around capacity like it was going out of style.
Hopefully they can retrench, salvage the domestic operation by trimming fleet & schedules and weather the storm until better days ahead, helped by an improving economic context in Brazil.
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pipeafcr wrote:Are the only international routes left are the ones to BOG? Did they ever fly to EZE?
Yes, the only route left is BOG, and yes, they will fly to EZE.
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RafaRolim08 wrote:pipeafcr wrote:Are the only international routes left are the ones to BOG? Did they ever fly to EZE?
Yes, the only route left is BOG, and yes, they will fly to EZE.
Avianca Colombia has resumed flying the BOG-GRU route with its own metal. Technically, it never stopped. Up to a few weeks ago, AV Brazil was flying the route for Avianca Colombia, and that was clearly disclosed to the passenger buying a ticket.
Avianca Brazil did not fly nor will fly to EZE from GRU. It couldn't due to the bilteral: the Brazilian side is out of frequencies ex GRU. In any case, a moot point now. It is Avianca Argentina that will fly between AEP (not EZE) and GRU, eff. 5/2/19.
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Regarding JFK, the arrival slot is within slot restrictions, but not its departure. However, with AR moving its return trip to the evening from the afternoon, could AD capitalize on O6's misfortune and acquire that JFK arrival slot, and try to get a departure slot when AR's used to be, to launch JFK? (It would likely be to the B6 terminal.) AD, with smaller planes plying the domestic network, is likely the best-positioned carrier in Brazil.
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