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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:08 pm

Stitch wrote:
scbriml wrote:
So let me get this right, (UA) have 737-9s and -10s on order, but should swap planes they keep ordering more of for planes they don't need and have shown no sign of ordering? You're funny. :lol:


To be fair, keesje has been a vocal proponent of UA switching out their larger-model 737 orders for A321s for years... :silly:


Exactly! :yes:
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:15 pm

ok then I'm convinced...UA will simply cancel the orders at the appropriate time
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:58 pm

United needed a 744 replacement, and the 77W was the only plane that could fulfill the 744 missions. Airbus didnt have a plane at the time that United wanted as a 744 replacement. I do remember a few years back when UA ordered the A359 as a 744 replacement.....terrible idea!
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:52 pm

scbriml wrote:
trav777 wrote:
This thread after all is about the 77W vs the 35K not the 359.


It clearly isn't. If you can only think in such a binary manner, it may explain your posts.

trav777 wrote:
Yeah they've only repeatedly deferred them and are in no hurry whatsoever to take delivery


Yeah, they've only repeatedly ordered more, paid more deposits and committed more money for when they actually need them.

trav777 wrote:
UA will swap the 359s for probably 321s.


So let me get this right, they have 737-9s and -10s on order, but should swap planes they keep ordering more of for planes they don't need and have shown no sign of ordering? You're funny. :lol:

trav777 wrote:
They can reconfigure the 789 to handle what the 359 can do except for lugging tons of payload over shorter distances..


Maybe you should ask the growing number of airlines that operate or have ordered both the A359 and 789? The A359 clearly gives them something the 789 can't. :scratchchin:


I'm convinced then; UA will eventually cancel the order
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:57 pm

xxcr wrote:
United needed a 744 replacement, and the 77W was the only plane that could fulfill the 744 missions. Airbus didnt have a plane at the time that United wanted as a 744 replacement. I do remember a few years back when UA ordered the A359 as a 744 replacement.....terrible idea!


The A350-1000 could fulfill it and an order was duly placed in June of 2013 for that reason, however UA stepped up the retirement date of the 747-400 and the 777-300ER was both available and available at a very favorable price so it got the nod.
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:44 pm

Stitch wrote:
xxcr wrote:
United needed a 744 replacement, and the 77W was the only plane that could fulfill the 744 missions. Airbus didnt have a plane at the time that United wanted as a 744 replacement. I do remember a few years back when UA ordered the A359 as a 744 replacement.....terrible idea!


The A350-1000 could fulfill it and an order was duly placed in June of 2013 for that reason, however UA stepped up the retirement date of the 747-400 and the 777-300ER was both available and available at a very favorable price so it got the nod.


Plus, the A350-1000 wasn't even flying yet when UA placed the order for the 77W
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:49 pm

Stitch wrote:
xxcr wrote:
United needed a 744 replacement, and the 77W was the only plane that could fulfill the 744 missions. Airbus didnt have a plane at the time that United wanted as a 744 replacement. I do remember a few years back when UA ordered the A359 as a 744 replacement.....terrible idea!


The A350-1000 could fulfill it and an order was duly placed in June of 2013 for that reason, however UA stepped up the retirement date of the 747-400 and the 777-300ER was both available and available at a very favorable price so it got the nod.

And, for that matter, continues to get the nod. -ir
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:13 pm

xxcr wrote:
Plus, the A350-1000 wasn't even flying yet when UA placed the order for the 77W


True, but there was also no worry that the A350-1000 was going to miss its scheduled entry into service so United could have waited if they had wanted to (other factors influenced them to instead not wait and in fact pull forward the 747 retirement).
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:18 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
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Personally I like the current font. As much as I loved Continental, IMHO the brand was looking very dated by the late 2000s. Times style fonts were very early-90s, reflected by both the Continental and United battleship liveries from the era. Adopting a more 'contemporary' font (bland yes, but that reflects current trends in branding) gave it a much more modern look, and I for one still like the current livery. The wavy version is great, and even the Legacy Continental version looks good IMHO.


I just wish that in the logo they'd made the text the same height as the globe.
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:51 am

flee wrote:
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Why did they go for the A350-1000 at first?

They have been converted to the A350-900

I think the Airbus order was a legacy from Continental. United are Boeing true and true...

The A350 was a United order from the outgoing CEO Glenn Tilton who Engineered the UA/CO merger. We at. United thought it was his Parting Shot because He wanted to replace the B747-422's with the A350, But the Incoming Continental Management could never figure out HOW to cancel the order and NOT pay a huge Penalty. So? They Kicked the can down the Road. United will at some point Have to take delivery of he A350's But When? Who Knows?!?
I suspect when we park all the B777-222's and the older B777-222ER's
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:07 am

strfyr51 wrote:
flee wrote:
United Airline wrote:
Why did they go for the A350-1000 at first?

They have been converted to the A350-900

I think the Airbus order was a legacy from Continental. United are Boeing true and true...

The A350 was a United order from the outgoing CEO Glenn Tilton who Engineered the UA/CO merger. We at. United thought it was his Parting Shot because He wanted to replace the B747-422's with the A350, But the Incoming Continental Management could never figure out HOW to cancel the order and NOT pay a huge Penalty. So? They Kicked the can down the Road. United will at some point Have to take delivery of he A350's But When? Who Knows?!?
I suspect when we park all the B777-222's and the older B777-222ER's

Assuming nothing changes A359 delivery is to begin in 2022, expect 772A retirement to begin likewise... That’s what I know.... :crossfingers: :twocents: :scratchchin:
 
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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:26 am

GatorClark wrote:
AirKevin wrote:
flee wrote:
I think the Airbus order was a legacy from Continental. United are Boeing true and true...

I guess that explains all those A320s that United had.


To be fair, I think the A320's were all bought for TED and were just shunted to mainline when that operation went bellyup. But I do believe that post you quoted is actually the opposite. UA isn't opposed to Airbus and really hasn't been for many years. It was CO that was all Boeing.
You couldnt be more wrong on that statement. A320s were ordered when Wolf was the CEO of UA

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Re: Why did UA choose the B777-300ER and ditch the A350-1000?

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:48 am

iahcsr wrote:
strfyr51 wrote:
flee wrote:
I think the Airbus order was a legacy from Continental. United are Boeing true and true...

The A350 was a United order from the outgoing CEO Glenn Tilton who Engineered the UA/CO merger. We at. United thought it was his Parting Shot because He wanted to replace the B747-422's with the A350, But the Incoming Continental Management could never figure out HOW to cancel the order and NOT pay a huge Penalty. So? They Kicked the can down the Road. United will at some point Have to take delivery of he A350's But When? Who Knows?!?
I suspect when we park all the B777-222's and the older B777-222ER's

Assuming nothing changes A359 delivery is to begin in 2022, expect 772A retirement to begin likewise... That’s what I know.... :crossfingers: :twocents: :scratchchin:


Why would UA be retiring the domestic 772A's beginning just three years from now in 2022 when they just recently got refitted with new cabins including 10 abreast economy seating?

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