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FARmd90 wrote:But according to another poster from another thread BOS didn’t have any snow this weekend I thought? Jkjk
In all seriousness it sounds like one big mess over there right now, hopefully they can get the ice off soon. How do they do that? Just have giant warm air machines and melt it?
September11 wrote:FARmd90 wrote:But according to another poster from another thread BOS didn’t have any snow this weekend I thought? Jkjk
In all seriousness it sounds like one big mess over there right now, hopefully they can get the ice off soon. How do they do that? Just have giant warm air machines and melt it?
Like major international airports had in the 1960s and 1970s...
jfklganyc wrote:Currently running 7 hour EDCTS
Someone forgot to clear the runways before the temp fell to 0F...and now they are having real problems.
Anyone there? Stories?
micstatic wrote:I just left Boston after a 5 hour delay. Basically we got 6 inches of snow Saturday night into Sunday morning. We plowed the driveway late Saturday and salted. Because of that we were able to use the driveway normally after. My guess is they blew it and didn’t get it removed prior to the huge predicted temperature drop. I don’t live in Boston but my sister does. I was extremely surprised and airport as experienced as Boston didn’t handle this. Even as of now they only have one runway operational. Total disaster.
BravoEcho757 wrote:One of my co-workers just texted our group of friends and said that a gate agent told him the delay program is now over 8 hours. He wisely decided to rebook.
RL757PVD wrote:B6 is showing a flight as AUS-PVD and it’s 1/2 way into the flight, is it that bad that they just flew to PVD or was the pilot being cleaver and filed to PVD to get out with the hopes of making it to BOS?
RL757PVD wrote:B6 is showing a flight as AUS-PVD and it’s 1/2 way into the flight, is it that bad that they just flew to PVD or was the pilot being cleaver and filed to PVD to get out with the hopes of making it to BOS?
FARmd90 wrote:But according to another poster from another thread BOS didn’t have any snow this weekend I thought? Jkjk
In all seriousness it sounds like one big mess over there right now, hopefully they can get the ice off soon. How do they do that? Just have giant warm air machines and melt it?
airbazar wrote:FARmd90 wrote:But according to another poster from another thread BOS didn’t have any snow this weekend I thought? Jkjk
In all seriousness it sounds like one big mess over there right now, hopefully they can get the ice off soon. How do they do that? Just have giant warm air machines and melt it?
It wasn't really the snow that was the problem. BOS doesn't normally have any problems handling a few inches of snow.
The problem was the freezing rain which freezes solid on contact and single digit temperatures which make it very difficult for it to melt. Deicing was the bigger problem.
Under those conditions planes have only a few minutes from deice to takeoff. That means big outbound delays, and no gates for inbound planes to go to resulting in even more compound delays. Airlines that chose not to cancel flights probably got lulled into a false sense of security by the little amount of snow in the forecast. The ever changing and unpredictable nature of the precip also made it very difficult for crews to maintain the runways. One minute it was dry snow and the next it was freezing rain. Each type of precip has it's own method for treatment. So not surprised it was a mess. I'm just glad I wasn't flying
Super80Fan wrote:The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.
airbazar wrote:Super80Fan wrote:The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.
Right. No one else had delays or cancelled flights. Only B6. They must have forgotten their magic de-icing wand. The fact that you have an AA picture for your profile picture doesn't make you biased at all
Super80Fan wrote:The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.
Super80Fan wrote:airbazar wrote:Super80Fan wrote:The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.
Right. No one else had delays or cancelled flights. Only B6. They must have forgotten their magic de-icing wand. The fact that you have an AA picture for your profile picture doesn't make you biased at all
Even NK is doing better out of BOS than B6 is.
Sad.
Super80Fan wrote:airbazar wrote:Super80Fan wrote:The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.
Right. No one else had delays or cancelled flights. Only B6. They must have forgotten their magic de-icing wand. The fact that you have an AA picture for your profile picture doesn't make you biased at all
Even NK is doing better out of BOS than B6 is.
Sad.
CRJ5000 wrote:Looks like another day of the same thing today....
KBOS just published a ground delay program for today averaging 349 minute delays, with an average arrival rate of 16. Yikes!
jfklganyc wrote:Why is this a B6 failure?
It is an airport authority failure for not clearing runways before the flash freeze took place.
It is 818am ET on a beautiful sunny day in the NE.
Boston has 5 hour and 49 min delays.
Why? Because the airport authority didnt plow runways before they froze 2 days ago...and they cant clear them now.
BravoEcho757 wrote:CRJ5000 wrote:Looks like another day of the same thing today....
KBOS just published a ground delay program for today averaging 349 minute delays, with an average arrival rate of 16. Yikes!
My flight to MCO today on B6 is showing only 2 hours delayed so far. Hooray?
rnav2dlrey wrote:the storm was nasty, and the low single digit temperatures will continue until tomorrow (tuesday) afternoon. snowfall total was minimal (3-5"), but here's how the storm and subsequent cold front progressed:
saturday night: temperatures around freezing, snow turned to sleet
sunday morning: temperatures rise to the mid 40s, heavy rainfall and winds. slush everywhere. drainage systems aren't working as they should because of slush; standing water all over the place. incredibly messy.
sunday afternoon/evening: temperatures plummet rapidly into the single digits, plus a light dusting of snow/ice. all of that standing water on asphalt flash freezes.
monday: temperatures reach a high of 5 throughout the region, wind chill -15.
i wish the weather was a "boston meltdown" as the thread title suggests. it was the opposite.
jfklganyc wrote:Currently running 7 hour EDCTS
Someone forgot to clear the runways before the temp fell to 0F...and now they are having real problems. Anyone there? Stories?
FlightLevel360 wrote:How about we remove some jet engines from planes and use them to blast hot air onto the runways?
rnav2dlrey wrote:the storm was nasty, and the low single digit temperatures will continue until tomorrow (tuesday) afternoon. snowfall total was minimal (3-5"), but here's how the storm and subsequent cold front progressed:
saturday night: temperatures around freezing, snow turned to sleet
sunday morning: temperatures rise to the mid 40s, heavy rainfall and winds. slush everywhere. drainage systems aren't working as they should because of slush; standing water all over the place. incredibly messy.
sunday afternoon/evening: temperatures plummet rapidly into the single digits, plus a light dusting of snow/ice. all of that standing water on asphalt flash freezes.
monday: temperatures reach a high of 5 throughout the region, wind chill -15.
i wish the weather was a "boston meltdown" as the thread title suggests. it was the opposite.
PVDspotting wrote:Anytime you get a storm with a lot of rain with rapidly dropping temps and high winds causing flash freezing will spell disaster. EVERYTHING was frozen around here!
FlightLevel360 wrote:How about we remove some jet engines from planes and use them to blast hot air onto the runways?
MSJYOP28Apilot wrote:Airline pilots dont file their own flight plans nor do they pick their destinations on their own.