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Boston Meltdown

Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:17 pm

Currently running 7 hour EDCTS

Someone forgot to clear the runways before the temp fell to 0F...and now they are having real problems.

Anyone there? Stories?
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:19 pm

More like "Boston Iceball". There definitely is nothing melting here... ;)
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:53 pm

One of my co-workers just texted our group of friends and said that a gate agent told him the delay program is now over 8 hours. He wisely decided to rebook.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:26 am

But according to another poster from another thread BOS didn’t have any snow this weekend I thought? Jkjk
In all seriousness it sounds like one big mess over there right now, hopefully they can get the ice off soon. How do they do that? Just have giant warm air machines and melt it?
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:38 am

FARmd90 wrote:
But according to another poster from another thread BOS didn’t have any snow this weekend I thought? Jkjk
In all seriousness it sounds like one big mess over there right now, hopefully they can get the ice off soon. How do they do that? Just have giant warm air machines and melt it?


Like major international airports had in the 1960s and 1970s...
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:49 am

September11 wrote:
FARmd90 wrote:
But according to another poster from another thread BOS didn’t have any snow this weekend I thought? Jkjk
In all seriousness it sounds like one big mess over there right now, hopefully they can get the ice off soon. How do they do that? Just have giant warm air machines and melt it?


Like major international airports had in the 1960s and 1970s...

Yeah.... 'member that scene in the movie Airport? Basically a fuel tanker truck running up & down the runways with wands (for lack of a better word) sticking out to the sides shooting flames down on the pavement.
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:53 am

How about we remove some jet engines from planes and use them to blast hot air onto the runways?
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:58 am

jfklganyc wrote:
Currently running 7 hour EDCTS

Someone forgot to clear the runways before the temp fell to 0F...and now they are having real problems.

Anyone there? Stories?


So let's see...the temperature has been pretty steady between 5 and 7 (F) all day (as it is now), and just now they are having problems? How about gusty northwest winds and it started snowing a few hours ago?
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:01 am

I just left Boston after a 5 hour delay. Basically we got 6 inches of snow Saturday night into Sunday morning. We plowed the driveway late Saturday and salted. Because of that we were able to use the driveway normally after. My guess is they blew it and didn’t get it removed prior to the huge predicted temperature drop. I don’t live in Boston but my sister does. I was extremely surprised and airport as experienced as Boston didn’t handle this. Even as of now they only have one runway operational. Total disaster.
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:19 am

micstatic wrote:
I just left Boston after a 5 hour delay. Basically we got 6 inches of snow Saturday night into Sunday morning. We plowed the driveway late Saturday and salted. Because of that we were able to use the driveway normally after. My guess is they blew it and didn’t get it removed prior to the huge predicted temperature drop. I don’t live in Boston but my sister does. I was extremely surprised and airport as experienced as Boston didn’t handle this. Even as of now they only have one runway operational. Total disaster.


Can you land a plane on the driveway since you plowed it? I am sure your driveway (errr your sister's) can't be used as an exact replica of the situation that's unfolding at BOS. They should also have put up tarps to slow down the winds.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:31 am

Totally agree. But as somebody who experienced the storm and also experienced the meltdown today it was clear the airport didn’t do a good job at all. It was predicted to snow and it was predicted to ice. I wouldn’t imagine this storm in say msp having these problems.
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:32 am

BravoEcho757 wrote:
One of my co-workers just texted our group of friends and said that a gate agent told him the delay program is now over 8 hours. He wisely decided to rebook.


Good call. There is so much debate on a.net about whether or not the airlines should do mass cancellations or try to operate through these events. To me they are the same thing. My goal in irrops is always to get to a hotel/home, rebook, and wait for it to pass. During the DL ATL computer meldown a couple years ago I walked into the Dayton airport lobby, saw 200 people in line at DL, and just turned around and drove home and did the rebook/refund from home.

As far as this situation goes, did the precipitation restart today, or was it continuous? I know there was a big temperature drop. But operations looked pretty normal until mid-afternoon. Did the precip get worse?
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:42 am

I didn’t see precipitation today other than wind blowing it into the air. But my gut says they never got the runways cleared after the initial storm. Once it bonded and the temps dropped they were screwed.
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:09 am

Snow, rain, sleet, falling ice, it warmed up then from the 30's to the single digits and strong winds in a matter of a few hours after dusk in the BOS area. The NYC area airports had mostly rain and partially dried out before it froze although had high winds into Monday afternoon. Guess the timing of clean up was better in the NYC area (SWF area had significant ice accumulation and likely affected late Sunday)
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:10 am

I have family that got out on B6 861 this morning after a 2hr delay, but they got most of the way to SJU before taking a sharp turn and diverting to FLL due to some reported problem with landing gear, speculated to be due to ice...a little unclear what it might have been, since they landed normally at FLL. But it sure doesn't sound like the BOS runway was too clean upon departure, if the pilots were worried enough to divert 2hrs back to FLL
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:30 am

B6 is showing a flight as AUS-PVD and it’s 1/2 way into the flight, is it that bad that they just flew to PVD or was the pilot being cleaver and filed to PVD to get out with the hopes of making it to BOS?
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:38 am

the storm was nasty, and the low single digit temperatures will continue until tomorrow (tuesday) afternoon. snowfall total was minimal (3-5"), but here's how the storm and subsequent cold front progressed:

saturday night: temperatures around freezing, snow turned to sleet
sunday morning: temperatures rise to the mid 40s, heavy rainfall and winds. slush everywhere. drainage systems aren't working as they should because of slush; standing water all over the place. incredibly messy.
sunday afternoon/evening: temperatures plummet rapidly into the single digits, plus a light dusting of snow/ice. all of that standing water on asphalt flash freezes.
monday: temperatures reach a high of 5 throughout the region, wind chill -15.

i wish the weather was a "boston meltdown" as the thread title suggests. it was the opposite.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:45 am

CX812 landed 1:45 ago, still waiting for a gate.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:42 am

I flew out of BOS this morning and it was rough. Had only a 30 min delay but that was nothing compared to some of the delays I saw. The runway was definently having issues with ice still as I could feel us skidding a little on takeoff.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:56 am

RL757PVD wrote:
B6 is showing a flight as AUS-PVD and it’s 1/2 way into the flight, is it that bad that they just flew to PVD or was the pilot being cleaver and filed to PVD to get out with the hopes of making it to BOS?

Pilots don’t file their own flight plans. Operating to open nearby airports makes sense.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:01 am

RL757PVD wrote:
B6 is showing a flight as AUS-PVD and it’s 1/2 way into the flight, is it that bad that they just flew to PVD or was the pilot being cleaver and filed to PVD to get out with the hopes of making it to BOS?


Airline pilots dont file their own flight plans nor do they pick their destinations on their own. Though it is a common tactic to "divert" to a nearby airport to avoid constrained center airspace, that is usually done much later in a flight if a huge EFC is issued while the airport is still landing traffic and even that is normally coordinated through the company as ATC can often deny the request to divert back to the original destination so they need to know that wherever they are diverting to is authorized, legal and able to handle them if they do get told no by ATC.

Technically, a pilot could on his own amend the strip with local ATC but he could and probably would get in trouble with the company and/or Feds for doing so. Ground delay programs are managed by both ATC and the airline. Not only could that pilots plan fail but ATC could give their slot to another airline. Airlines are allowed to swap their own own slots around so more important flights take less of a delay. Let's say the pilot does that and leaves on time, the slot is given to another airline and not only can that airline not use it as needed for that flight or another flight, another airline gets it and if the program has no room in the arrival hour then that flight diverts to PVD. B6 ops in PVD may or may not be available to handle his diversion. On such a long flight as AUS-PVD, the crew would want to know before launching that such a strategy would work. The airline gets alerts from ATC when a filed flight plan changes and ACARS sends a message when the planes leaves the gate and takes off. It wouldnt be long before he starting receiving messages and ARINC calls about it asking what he is doing. It would send security alarm bells ringing at the airline. That also doesnt take into account the Part 121 dispatch requirements that would be broken with this.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:17 pm

FARmd90 wrote:
But according to another poster from another thread BOS didn’t have any snow this weekend I thought? Jkjk
In all seriousness it sounds like one big mess over there right now, hopefully they can get the ice off soon. How do they do that? Just have giant warm air machines and melt it?

It wasn't really the snow that was the problem. BOS doesn't normally have any problems handling a few inches of snow.
The problem was the freezing rain which freezes solid on contact and single digit temperatures which make it very difficult for it to melt. Deicing was the bigger problem.
Under those conditions planes have only a few minutes from deice to takeoff. That means big outbound delays, and no gates for inbound planes to go to resulting in even more compound delays. Airlines that chose not to cancel flights probably got lulled into a false sense of security by the little amount of snow in the forecast. The ever changing and unpredictable nature of the precip also made it very difficult for crews to maintain the runways. One minute it was dry snow and the next it was freezing rain. Each type of precip has it's own method for treatment. So not surprised it was a mess. I'm just glad I wasn't flying :)
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:22 pm

airbazar wrote:
FARmd90 wrote:
But according to another poster from another thread BOS didn’t have any snow this weekend I thought? Jkjk
In all seriousness it sounds like one big mess over there right now, hopefully they can get the ice off soon. How do they do that? Just have giant warm air machines and melt it?

It wasn't really the snow that was the problem. BOS doesn't normally have any problems handling a few inches of snow.
The problem was the freezing rain which freezes solid on contact and single digit temperatures which make it very difficult for it to melt. Deicing was the bigger problem.
Under those conditions planes have only a few minutes from deice to takeoff. That means big outbound delays, and no gates for inbound planes to go to resulting in even more compound delays. Airlines that chose not to cancel flights probably got lulled into a false sense of security by the little amount of snow in the forecast. The ever changing and unpredictable nature of the precip also made it very difficult for crews to maintain the runways. One minute it was dry snow and the next it was freezing rain. Each type of precip has it's own method for treatment. So not surprised it was a mess. I'm just glad I wasn't flying :)


Yeah the freezing rain phase of the storm directly preceded the massive drop in temperature
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:32 pm

Looks like another day of the same thing today....

KBOS just published a ground delay program for today averaging 349 minute delays, with an average arrival rate of 16. Yikes!
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:40 pm

The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:44 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.

Right. No one else had delays or cancelled flights. Only B6. They must have forgotten their magic de-icing wand. The fact that you have an AA picture for your profile picture doesn't make you biased at all :)
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:50 pm

airbazar wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.

Right. No one else had delays or cancelled flights. Only B6. They must have forgotten their magic de-icing wand. The fact that you have an AA picture for your profile picture doesn't make you biased at all :)


Even NK is doing better out of BOS than B6 is.

Sad.
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:04 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.



Yeah B6 runs massport, who knew.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:06 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
airbazar wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.

Right. No one else had delays or cancelled flights. Only B6. They must have forgotten their magic de-icing wand. The fact that you have an AA picture for your profile picture doesn't make you biased at all :)


Even NK is doing better out of BOS than B6 is.

Sad.


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Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:08 pm

 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:10 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
airbazar wrote:
Super80Fan wrote:
The only "failure" so to speak out of BOS has been caused by B6.

Right. No one else had delays or cancelled flights. Only B6. They must have forgotten their magic de-icing wand. The fact that you have an AA picture for your profile picture doesn't make you biased at all :)


Even NK is doing better out of BOS than B6 is.

Sad.



What do you have against B6 and NK? Isn't NK now operationally doing better than UA/AA overall as well...and not only at BOS?
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:14 pm

CRJ5000 wrote:
Looks like another day of the same thing today....

KBOS just published a ground delay program for today averaging 349 minute delays, with an average arrival rate of 16. Yikes!


My flight to MCO today on B6 is showing only 2 hours delayed so far. Hooray? :lol:
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:16 pm

Almost everyone at BOS has cancellations and delays.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:19 pm

Why is this a B6 failure?

It is an airport authority failure for not clearing runways before the flash freeze took place.

It is 818am ET on a beautiful sunny day in the NE.

Boston has 5 hour and 49 min delays.

Why? Because the airport authority didnt plow runways before they froze 2 days ago...and they cant clear them now.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:26 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Why is this a B6 failure?

It is an airport authority failure for not clearing runways before the flash freeze took place.

It is 818am ET on a beautiful sunny day in the NE.

Boston has 5 hour and 49 min delays.

Why? Because the airport authority didnt plow runways before they froze 2 days ago...and they cant clear them now.



Thank you. Look I am happy to discuss B6 issues but massport dorked this up. Not JetBlue.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:42 pm

BravoEcho757 wrote:
CRJ5000 wrote:
Looks like another day of the same thing today....

KBOS just published a ground delay program for today averaging 349 minute delays, with an average arrival rate of 16. Yikes!


My flight to MCO today on B6 is showing only 2 hours delayed so far. Hooray? :lol:

With an arrival temp around 70. :cloudnine:
And the BA238 BOS-LHR just left with only a 45min delay, things getting better?
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:12 pm

BOS is still a mess.
Per FlighAware as of now:
Boston Logan Intl (KBOS) is currently experiencing:
inbound flights delayed at their origin an average of 5 hours 49 minutes due to snow and ice
arrival delays for airborne aircraft an average of 27 minutes
departure delays an average of 26 minute

rnav2dlrey summed it up nicely. Sometimes you get nailed no matter what you do. Even a couple of miles can make a difference in these conditions.

rnav2dlrey wrote:
the storm was nasty, and the low single digit temperatures will continue until tomorrow (tuesday) afternoon. snowfall total was minimal (3-5"), but here's how the storm and subsequent cold front progressed:

saturday night: temperatures around freezing, snow turned to sleet
sunday morning: temperatures rise to the mid 40s, heavy rainfall and winds. slush everywhere. drainage systems aren't working as they should because of slush; standing water all over the place. incredibly messy.
sunday afternoon/evening: temperatures plummet rapidly into the single digits, plus a light dusting of snow/ice. all of that standing water on asphalt flash freezes.
monday: temperatures reach a high of 5 throughout the region, wind chill -15.

i wish the weather was a "boston meltdown" as the thread title suggests. it was the opposite.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:22 pm

Plenty of delays and cancelations here at Terminal A at the moment. My BOS-FLL is delayed for an hour so far so not complaining.
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:31 pm

jfklganyc wrote:
Currently running 7 hour EDCTS

Someone forgot to clear the runways before the temp fell to 0F...and now they are having real problems. Anyone there? Stories?


Courtesy: WCVB-TV - Video Report

Hundreds of delays, cancellations at Logan Airport

https://www.wcvb.com/article/hundreds-of-delays-cancellations-at-logan-airport-causing-headaches-for-travelers/25982956
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:06 pm

I wonder how long before it hits the cable news channels?

Two days of ineptitude usually goes viral
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:00 pm

FlightLevel360 wrote:
How about we remove some jet engines from planes and use them to blast hot air onto the runways?


That's actually done in Russia.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:09 pm

rnav2dlrey wrote:
the storm was nasty, and the low single digit temperatures will continue until tomorrow (tuesday) afternoon. snowfall total was minimal (3-5"), but here's how the storm and subsequent cold front progressed:

saturday night: temperatures around freezing, snow turned to sleet
sunday morning: temperatures rise to the mid 40s, heavy rainfall and winds. slush everywhere. drainage systems aren't working as they should because of slush; standing water all over the place. incredibly messy.
sunday afternoon/evening: temperatures plummet rapidly into the single digits, plus a light dusting of snow/ice. all of that standing water on asphalt flash freezes.
monday: temperatures reach a high of 5 throughout the region, wind chill -15.

i wish the weather was a "boston meltdown" as the thread title suggests. it was the opposite.


Sounds like Minneapolis right after Christmas. Snow, followed by rain, followed by snow and single digit temps. I still have ice on my driveway 3-4 inches deep in places, nearly a month after it happened. I keep throwing out rock salt, it crackles and slowly melting it away. Of course right now we have been in the single digits for a few days again. So that isnt helping.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:36 pm

Some observations prior to my departure of JetBlue at Terminal C:

1. The customer service agents have been wonderful, even though the events of the last few days are showing a toll.
2. The ramp agents would probably be better off with ice skates than work boots. The poor soul wing-walking my departure almost went down twice.
3. Massport couldn't plow a front porch if their lives depended on it.
4. The party is evidently at Boston Beer works by C12, looks like they are all making the best of it.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:31 pm

Anytime you get a storm with a lot of rain with rapidly dropping temps and high winds causing flash freezing will spell disaster. EVERYTHING was frozen around here!
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:07 pm

PVDspotting wrote:
Anytime you get a storm with a lot of rain with rapidly dropping temps and high winds causing flash freezing will spell disaster. EVERYTHING was frozen around here!


This was a different kind of storm all over New England. Snow until Sunday around 10-noon here, then sleet and freezing rain. In our Maine city, every street is plowed multiple times per day. Not this time. Then it became\ crusty and good luck plowing or shoveling. Sometimes nature gets the better of us.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:07 pm

Some observations after flying out of Boston today:

1.) Lots of delays and cancellations. Some of the flights leaving this afternoon were originally scheduled to leave last night!

2.) It looks innocuous enough out the window. Clear skies, low winds. Just ice everywhere. At least the planes do not require deicing.

3.) Got bumped off my very delayed flight to LAX as it had weight and balance issues on top of everything else (I guess a fuel stop wasn't in the cards; those January headwinds). But the gate agents handled it very well and got us all rebooked with compensation.

Anyway, sitting in my connecting airport, I can tell you that nothing is going into Chicago O'Hare right now.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:20 pm

georgewall42 wrote:
..sitting in my connecting airport, I can tell you that nothing is going into Chicago O'Hare right now.


No Surprise. Current ORD weather:
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:29 pm

FlightLevel360 wrote:
How about we remove some jet engines from planes and use them to blast hot air onto the runways?


why remove them from the planes? self contained fuel tanks...already mobile (on wheels)...sounds like a plan.
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:36 pm

MSJYOP28Apilot wrote:
Airline pilots dont file their own flight plans nor do they pick their destinations on their own.


Some do.

Clearly you've never flown ACMI.
 
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Re: Boston Meltdown

Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:30 am

And now they've got a "broken light" so 15R/33L is inoperable. Greatttttttttttt...

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Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos