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First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:57 pm

Not sure it should be called a car, but Boeing has begun flying an electric multi-rotor passenger vehicle yesterday...

A Boeing Co. flying car designed to whisk passengers over congested city streets and dodge skyscrapers completed its first test flight on Tuesday, offering a peek into the future of urban transportation the aerospace giant and others are seeking to reshape.

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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:09 pm

The very definition of losing focus on your primary business
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:11 pm

SteelChair wrote:
The very definition of losing focus on your primary business

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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:13 pm

SteelChair wrote:
The very definition of losing focus on your primary business


you mean the business of making things that fly?
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:15 pm

trav777 wrote:
SteelChair wrote:
The very definition of losing focus on your primary business


you mean the business of making things that fly?

Losing focus on making commercial planes.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:16 pm

FA9295 wrote:
trav777 wrote:
SteelChair wrote:
The very definition of losing focus on your primary business


you mean the business of making things that fly?

Losing focus on making commercial planes.


Boeing makes military aircraft and weapons as well

they have an aerospace division

commercial aircraft are but one aspect of the company
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:18 pm

trav777 wrote:
SteelChair wrote:
The very definition of losing focus on your primary business


you mean the business of making things that fly?

No, the business of staying with military and commercial aircraft. This is in the domain of personal crafts: manufacturing volume, aftermarket support and margins are light-years apart from those in military and commercial aircraft.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:18 pm

This is a distraction and a waste of resources imho. Trying to appeal to one aspect of the political spectrum.....
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:23 pm

SteelChair wrote:
The very definition of losing focus on your primary business


If anything it is an insurance against the future, especially when your competitor is doing the same.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/1/16961688/airbus-vahana-evtol-first-test-flight

And furthermore I don't think this is costing them too much - certainly nowhere near the development costs of a brand new aircraft program.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:32 pm

Anyone knows the cost of this toy?
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:38 pm

mham001 wrote:
Not sure it should be called a car, but Boeing has begun flying an electric multi-rotor passenger vehicle yesterday...

When it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and flies like a duck, then whatever Boeing might wish to call it, the reality is it's a HELICOPTER.

Boeing did their best to disguise the project by getting rid of the central rotor, replacing it with a collection of air-conditioning fans, but if all you are doing is street hopping and dodging skyscrapers, you do not the added complication of transitioning to level flight supported by wings.

Technically it should probably be described as a quadcopter; here is an earlier version from de Bothezat, built for the US Army
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Bothezat_helicopter
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Nearly 100 years has elapsed between these two designs, and they are both totally cuckoo!
Nothing to see here; move along please.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:07 pm

Can you say with certainty that there is not ONE Boeing designed device in you personal items? Cars, electronics? I think it is great! Who else would you want to bring this to fruition?

Ford?
Dodge?
Chevy?

It is a FLYING vehicle!!!
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:08 pm

PS...Boeing launches shit into space....both civilian and military...and underwater for that matter....
Carpe Pices
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:10 pm

I don's see a car. What I do see is a vehicle that if left in the hands of the average driver will push Darwinism to new heights (no pun intended)..
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:19 pm

Should the thread's emphasis be less on flying car, and more on electric? Lots of hope for future military and commercial applications in that context, and this is just an easy platform to test new power technologies?
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:27 pm

...It's still going to require a pilot certificate.
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:33 pm

If they can perfect it, I can see it going into commercial use which falls right in line with their business....commercial air transport. I don't see this being an affordable thing for every household so if you think of it as a way to mitigate congestion on roads, there could be a larger (think bus size) version that moves people from points in a city to downtown offices. I would bet people in Gwinnett County north of Atlanta liking something to give them relief from the roads there.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:51 pm

Boeing and Airbus (and others) will be doing a lot of these sorts of things over the next ten years. What this will lead to commercially is anybody's guess.
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:04 pm

Airbus have been doing the same kind of things for years, Google' E-Fan Electric Aircraft'
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:10 pm

The money, time and effort that went into this, in the grand scheme, amounts to an accountants' rounding error.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:19 pm

KFLLCFII wrote:
...It's still going to require a pilot certificate.

Surely it won't be piloted as such but operated in an airborne equivalent to the way driverless vehicles are going to run ?
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:24 pm

IFlyVeryLittle wrote:
The money, time and effort that went into this, in the grand scheme, amounts to an accountants' rounding error.


Very well said. Likely true.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:34 pm

Interesting...couple questions raise...would it be affordable to you and me? And, can there be an airline version that accommodates 3-5 passengers (thus airlines like LIAT or OLT then picking up a few?)
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:42 pm

frmrCapCadet wrote:
Boeing and Airbus (and others) will be doing a lot of these sorts of things over the next ten years. What this will lead to commercially is anybody's guess.

Exactly. It's R&D. The sort of stuff that they should be doing. I was a Boeing shareholder I'd be irritated if they WEREN'T doing research into electric planes.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:46 pm

It's a clever design. Quad rotors for vertical lift and wings+pusher prop for forward flight, which would greatly improve efficiency. The wing gets clean air with the rotors below it on pods.

Perhaps in future prototypes, the rotors could fold away to reduce drag. It could even feature hybrid power with an internal combustion engine driving the pusher prop and charging batteries.

This thing probably cost less than the CEO's summer cottage.
What the...?
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:36 pm

JannEejit wrote:
KFLLCFII wrote:
...It's still going to require a pilot certificate.

Surely it won't be piloted as such but operated in an airborne equivalent to the way driverless vehicles are going to run ?


With as glacial as the FAA is to making any significant changes to aviation regulations (allowing for "pilotless", yet human-occupied aircraft would be about as significant of a change as they come), they might get to enacting such a regulation change in, as a conservative estimate, 30 years.

In the meantime, whoever is at the controls of such a craft (be it at a yoke, sidekick, wheel, or keypad), that person would be considered the Pilot in Command, and would be required to be appropriately licensed and rated in such capacity.
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:42 pm

Since what we really want in our cities is skies that are as congested as our streets, with parts raining down on pedestrians in the event of any mishap.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:28 am

Talking about dodging skyscrapers is the very wrong way to sell this, how long before NIMBYs living or working in said skyscrapers demand a ban on such vehicles flying near them ?

The only place where there are a number of tall buildings in my country (France) is in (near, technically) Paris, and nobody can fly over any part of Paris, unless at high altitude.
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:36 am

All of you complaining that this is outside Boeing's business area know that they've built boats, right?

Not to mention having their fingers in a few other areas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing#Divisions
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:48 am

Looking like a perfect place to mount a GAU-8 30mm gatling gun for tactical support.
Like on a A-10 Warthog.

But what do I know.

Okie
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:00 am

It will only be a matter of time before this little electric flying car will come in ER (extended-range) and LR (long-range) models as well as one that can operate in Class B airspace. Well you get the idea.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:13 am

I don't know, I think it looks like an old Ford Aerostar minivan with wings piggybacked onto a giant drone. Now, if it could be made amphibious, that might really be something!
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:47 am

FA9295 wrote:
Losing focus on making commercial planes.

And getting $100 billion dollar defence contracts because Boeing has a track record of making fancy prototypes.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:18 pm

Looks like they are working on an autonomous air taxi...

Boeing Autonomous eVTOL Makes First Flight
https://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/ ... ail#232172
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:02 pm

thought this was a forum for aviation enthusiasts. seems I am wrong as it appears to be a forum for narrow minded traditionalist trolls.

I am glad to see the prototype and will watch it's progression to the point the program is spun off into an independent company.
 
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Re: First Flight - Boeing Electric Flying Car

Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:41 pm

Mr Kanban, may I share your enthusiasm?

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