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Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:38 pm

Haven't seen this on this board so far, correct me if I am wrong.

Well, as the thread title says. Similar to other diving attractions, Bahrain plans to sink a B747:

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Source: https://www.aero.de/news-13870/Bahrain- ... g-747.html

Does anybody know which B747 they will use? Are there any B747's stored in Bahrain currently?
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:46 pm

They've been trying to sell an Amiri Flight 747SP for quite a few years, don't know if they ever succeeded in shifting it. Otherwise it might be the one.
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:13 pm

Well, just a guess, but it's unlikely to have engines under the wings. I'd hope they'd remove all the lavatories etc. too. I'm curious which aircraft/frame is set for this next stage of life/death:

""Furthermore, a vast amount of time has been spent removing contaminants from the aircraft. This has included removing all wiring, all hydraulic, pneumatic and fuel systems, and all adhesives, insulation, plastics, rubbers, chemicals or other potential toxic substances."

It seems it won't even have wings, which isn't real surprising, but I don't see any other details, on the frame that was apparently trucked in:

https://www.aviationbusinessme.com/avia ... h-corniche
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:07 pm

texl1649 wrote:
It seems it won't even have wings, which isn't real surprising, but I don't see any other details, on the frame that was apparently trucked in:

https://www.aviationbusinessme.com/avia ... h-corniche


It's standard to remove the wings before trucking an aircraft, so I'd say it's not outside the realm of possibility that they reattach them.
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:10 pm

The image on your link shows 10 upper deck windows.

These images show only 5 or 6.

https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b747-21649.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_74 ... mh.arp.jpg

https://www.planespotters.net/photo/649 ... g-747sp-z5

It is also clearly a Classic, which rules out their B747-400's.
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:12 pm

B777LRF wrote:
They've been trying to sell an Amiri Flight 747SP for quite a few years, don't know if they ever succeeded in shifting it. Otherwise it might be the one.


The photo of the plane shows overwing exits, which are not on the SP.
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:28 pm

It's been done before:

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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:37 pm

What purpose does this serve by deliberately sinking a plane and making it a divers attraction? What else will they sink, a whole city?

Everything is just so fake in the middle East, when they do things for attraction.
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:39 pm

avier wrote:
What purpose does this serve by deliberately sinking a plane and making it a divers attraction? What else will they sink, a whole city?

Everything is just so fake in the middle East, when they do things for attraction.

It's very commonly done with boats and rail cars, it creates artificial reefs.

They decided to sink an airplane; why not? Not much different in purpose than sinking a boat or rail cars, and it creates a (somewhat) unique attraction.
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:13 pm

avier wrote:
What purpose does this serve by deliberately sinking a plane and making it a divers attraction? What else will they sink, a whole city?

Everything is just so fake in the middle East, when they do things for attraction.

The US has literally sank an aircraft carrier for the same reason...
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:15 pm

Some Vulcan bomber would be cool.
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:42 pm

There's a B-29 in Lake Mead, which crashed due to CFIT. Recently, the lower water level in the lake due to drought made it more visible/accessible.
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:47 pm

Sinking a plane to make an artificial Reef has been done before.

An ex-Canadian 737 was sunk off Canada's BC Coast to create an artificial reef.

http://artificialreefsocietybc.ca/boeing-737.html
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:04 pm

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Some Vulcan bomber would be cool.

Yes, including some AGM-86B replicas . . .
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:09 pm

Lots of places use large metal structures as the framework for underwater features such as a new reef or dive trainer. With Sharm el Sheik being off the lists for many dive schools, Bahrain is doing this at just the right time. A secure location with year-round fine weather and ease of access from all over the world.

Some old New York train cars were used for the same purpose not long ago.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:26 pm

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Some Vulcan bomber would be cool.


With or without 2 hydrogen bombs, Mr Bond?
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:35 pm

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avier wrote:
What purpose does this serve by deliberately sinking a plane and making it a divers attraction? What else will they sink, a whole city?

Everything is just so fake in the middle East, when they do things for attraction.

The US has literally sank an aircraft carrier for the same reason...


Yup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XavoiJxK0ck
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:40 pm

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There's a B-29 in Lake Mead, which crashed due to CFIT. Recently, the lower water level in the lake due to drought made it more visible/accessible.


Wow, do you know where there's any pictures of that after the drought exposed it? I'd like to see what that looks like.
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:31 pm

I believe that Aloha sunk a couple of 737-100’s many years ago off Hawaii including the aircraft that lost it’s top
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:43 pm

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I believe that Aloha sunk a couple of 737-100’s many years ago off Hawaii including the aircraft that lost it’s top

The 737 that lost its top was MSN 20209 and was a 737-297; and was dismantled after the investigation.

Aloha only had 2 737-100's (MSN's 19679 & 19680, 737-159), both went to Air California after Aloha.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:56 pm

I believe that Aloha sunk a couple of 737-100’s many years ago off Hawaii including the aircraft that lost it’s top
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:52 pm

Most of aircraft structures are covered with anti-corrosive substances. These dissolve into sea water and are toxic.
I doubt that they'll remove those, it's an expensive and extensive job.

I also wonder if the effects of aluminum's toxicity have been considered. Aluminum oxides and hydroxides are to fish what asbestos is to humans. Longer term exposure can impair breathing.
So ok, they might be creating a reef, but it will be a sick reef.
 
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Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:58 pm

Isn't there a 727-100, ex-N5609, off the coast near Ft Lauderdale?
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:49 am

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I believe that Aloha sunk a couple of 737-100’s many years ago off Hawaii including the aircraft that lost it’s top


The aircraft that lost its top was a -297 N73711, and the two 737-100s Aloha flew were eventually flown by Air California/AirCal/American and were likely scrapped at Mojave, CA.
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:00 am

N14AZ wrote:
Haven't seen this on this board so far, correct me if I am wrong.

Well, as the thread title says. Similar to other diving attractions, Bahrain plans to sink a B747:

I'm already dreading the flood of "why doesn't <country X> sink a B747" threads...
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:33 am

From this link: https://www.arabianbusiness.com/transpo ... h-corniche, it can be concluded that they are sinking a B747-200 for the purpose. The aircraft looks new though, any way to trace its origin when it landed on 22nd Jan 2019?

This article sums up three of the Boeing aircraft dive sites, including the B727 jet was sunk off the coast of Miami in 1993, and a separate B727 at Mermet Springs, Illinois, from 1990s movie "U.S. Marshals", sunk in 1998 and the Canadian Pacific B737-200 in British Columbia, Canada
https://www.leisurepro.com/blog/scuba-d ... aircrafts/
https://thesouthern.com/lifestyles/maga ... df802.html

Jordan sunk a C-130 Hercules:
http://divemagazine.co.uk/travel/7876-d ... -new-wreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbFUkL2KSFI

In 2011, Bulgaria Government sunk a decommissioned Tu-154M LZ-BTJ as artificial reef.
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:29 am

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From this link: https://www.arabianbusiness.com/transpo ... h-corniche, it can be concluded that they are sinking a B747-200 for the purpose. The aircraft looks new though, any way to trace its origin when it landed on 22nd Jan 2019?

This article sums up three of the Boeing aircraft dive sites, including the B727 jet was sunk off the coast of Miami in 1993, and a separate B727 at Mermet Springs, Illinois, from 1990s movie "U.S. Marshals", sunk in 1998 and the Canadian Pacific B737-200 in British Columbia, Canada
https://www.leisurepro.com/blog/scuba-d ... aircrafts/
https://thesouthern.com/lifestyles/maga ... df802.html

Jordan sunk a C-130 Hercules:
http://divemagazine.co.uk/travel/7876-d ... -new-wreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbFUkL2KSFI

In 2011, Bulgaria Government sunk a decommissioned Tu-154M LZ-BTJ as artificial reef.
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:45 am

The aircraft was in Fujairah in the UAE a few days ago. Video included. http://m.gdnonline.com/vicontentdetails.html?id=471422

Abu Dhabi: A decommissioned Boeing 747 passenger plane is on its way to Bahrain to become the star attraction of the recently announced eco-friendly underwater theme park.

However, the wingless plane became the centre of confusion online after it was spotted in Fujairah.

After the 70m-long plane was filmed being hauled by large trucks along the Fujairah Corniche, rumours started circulating on social media that the plane has made an emergency landing.    

The Fujairah Police soon sprung into action and debunked the reports of an emergency landing on the corniche.

“The plane was actually an 'out of service' structure of a jet, which was being transported from Fujairah International Airport to the seaport”, police said last night.

The fuselage will be shipped to Bahrain in the coming days, where it will become the centrepiece of the underwater theme park along with a traditional Bahraini pearl merchant’s house and artificial coral reefs.  

Covering an area of 100,000sqm, the exceptional dive experience includes several structures.

The sculptures are all fabricated from eco-friendly materials, all submerged to provide a safe haven for coral reef growth and a habitat for marine life.

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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:30 am

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The aircraft was in Fujairah in the UAE a few days ago. Video included. http://m.gdnonline.com/vicontentdetails.html?id=471422

Abu Dhabi: A decommissioned Boeing 747 passenger plane is on its way to Bahrain to become the star attraction of the recently announced eco-friendly underwater theme park.

However, the wingless plane became the centre of confusion online after it was spotted in Fujairah.

After the 70m-long plane was filmed being hauled by large trucks along the Fujairah Corniche, rumours started circulating on social media that the plane has made an emergency landing.    

Thanks very much for this information. Unfortunately, I cannot start that video. So can anyone identify the B747?

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Haven't seen this on this board so far, correct me if I am wrong.

I'm already dreading the flood of "why doesn't <country X> sink a B747" threads...

:rotfl: e.g. "Why doesn't Mongolia sink a B747 on their sores"...
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:56 am

According to plane spotters, XT-DMT msn 21054 has been stored at FJR since 2010.

I have a hunch that it could be the one.
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:18 am

jetblueguy22 wrote:
avier wrote:
What purpose does this serve by deliberately sinking a plane and making it a divers attraction? What else will they sink, a whole city?

Everything is just so fake in the middle East, when they do things for attraction.

The US has literally sank an aircraft carrier for the same reason...


If you're talking about USS America, it's not a diving attraction anymore than Titanic is, it's not in shallow waters !
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:26 am

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Bahrain plans to sink a B747


Keeping up with the current forum theme should't you change the title to "Why is Bahrain not planning on sinking a 747-8i?" :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:33 am

Yes, This is true. I am one among the technicians of this team. This aircraft has been parked in the Fujairah international airport since 2010. It was once a passenger carrier later modified to a freight. Before its final flight in 2010 this aircraft was operated by Air Atlanta Icelandic (part of Saudi Arabian airlines) and its registration was TP-AAA. Flight dismantling started in the middle of 2018 and completed in December 2018. The work included removing engines, all landing gears, wings, avionics, wirings, complete hydraulic, and pneumatic systems, cockpit and cabin glasses, plastics, insulation and everything else other than the aluminium structure. This aircraft has been shipped to Bahrain on 24th January 2019 and hopefully will reach by 29th January 2019 at the site in Bahrain.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:18 pm

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Yes, This is true. I am one among the technicians of this team. This aircraft has been parked in the Fujairah international airport since 2010. It was once a passenger carrier later modified to a freight. Before its final flight in 2010 this aircraft was operated by Air Atlanta Icelandic (part of Saudi Arabian airlines) and its registration was TP-AAA. Flight dismantling started in the middle of 2018 and completed in December 2018. The work included removing engines, all landing gears, wings, avionics, wirings, complete hydraulic, and pneumatic systems, cockpit and cabin glasses, plastics, insulation and everything else other than the aluminium structure. This aircraft has been shipped to Bahrain on 24th January 2019 and hopefully will reach by 29th January 2019 at the site in Bahrain.

I think you mean TF-AAA. A 37.7 years old B747-236B, previously with BA as G-BDXN and MH 9M-MHJ. Stored in FJR since 2013.

https://m.planespotters.net/airframe/Bo ... c/A0gjcdY0

There are few B747 Classic stored at FJR, hopefully this is correct.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:34 pm

ajithnit1 wrote:
Yes, This is true. I am one among the technicians of this team. This aircraft has been parked in the Fujairah international airport since 2010. It was once a passenger carrier later modified to a freight. Before its final flight in 2010 this aircraft was operated by Air Atlanta Icelandic (part of Saudi Arabian airlines) and its registration was TP-AAA. Flight dismantling started in the middle of 2018 and completed in December 2018. The work included removing engines, all landing gears, wings, avionics, wirings, complete hydraulic, and pneumatic systems, cockpit and cabin glasses, plastics, insulation and everything else other than the aluminium structure. This aircraft has been shipped to Bahrain on 24th January 2019 and hopefully will reach by 29th January 2019 at the site in Bahrain.

Seems the registration must have been TF-AAA, MSN 22442.
No country uses the TP prefix.

But something doesn't add up, as this aircraft flew past 2010 and seems to have been stored in 05/2013. Are you sure about the registration?
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:22 pm

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What purpose does this serve by deliberately sinking a plane and making it a divers attraction? What else will they sink, a whole city?

Everything is just so fake in the middle East, when they do things for attraction.


That part of the world is mostly just sand, so by default anything that is built or developed is "fake". What suggestions/alternatives do you have in mind?
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:44 pm

Yes.its registration was TF-AAA .My apology for that .now TF-AAB is undergoing the same procedure in Fujairah airport. I heard from airport guys that this has been stored there since 2010. There are 3 more similar aircrfts stored here.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:17 pm

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A 37.7 years old B747-236B, previously with BA as G-BDXN and MH 9M-MHJ. Stored in FJR since 2013.

https://m.planespotters.net/airframe/Bo ... c/A0gjcdY0




I did not realize that BA had a 747 built that was NTU. Any others?

It looks like Air Atlanta flew both G-BDXNs.

https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b747-23735.htm
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Some Vulcan bomber would be cool.


With or without 2 hydrogen bombs, Mr Bond?


IIRC, that was the first non-animated movie I ever saw at a theatre. So :thumbsup: :thumbsup: to Noshow for the mention.
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:19 pm

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Are you sure about Air Atlanta Icelandic being part of Saudia.
 
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Are you sure about Air Atlanta Icelandic being part of Saudia.

No, Air Atlanta Icelandic was/is flying on behalf of Saudia Arabian Airlines.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:16 pm

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Haven't seen this on this board so far, correct me if I am wrong.

I'm already dreading the flood of "why doesn't <country X> sink a B747" threads...

:rotfl: e.g. "Why doesn't Mongolia sink a B747 on their sores"...
Yesterday I had started a thread "Why didn't WN order the Yak40" but for some mysterious reasons I cannot find my thread anymore.... ;-)


Chances that someone asks for DTW or PHX to sink a 747 to attract more intercont connections are quite high :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Wow, do you know where there's any pictures of that after the drought exposed it? I'd like to see what that looks like.

Here's one of several videos on the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXbwEpTfIkk
 
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jetblueguy22 wrote:
avier wrote:
What purpose does this serve by deliberately sinking a plane and making it a divers attraction? What else will they sink, a whole city?

Everything is just so fake in the middle East, when they do things for attraction.

The US has literally sank an aircraft carrier for the same reason...


If you're talking about USS America, it's not a diving attraction anymore than Titanic is, it's not in shallow waters !


I think he was referring to the USS Oriskany
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Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:32 pm

Probably it would look like Air China B747 when it crashed in Kai Tak back then.
 
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Probably it would look like Air China B747 when it crashed in Kai Tak back then.

I think you mean China Airlines of Taiwan. B-165 CI 605 incident, that B744 ended up as firefighting practice and scrapped after some years.
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juliuswong wrote:
A 37.7 years old B747-236B, previously with BA as G-BDXN and MH 9M-MHJ. Stored in FJR since 2013.

https://m.planespotters.net/airframe/Bo ... c/A0gjcdY0



I did not realize that BA had a 747 built that was NTU. Any others?

It looks like Air Atlanta flew both G-BDXNs.

https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b747-23735.htm

There was another ntu. MSN 22304/ LN 502 B747-236B, was supposed to be G-BDXL, but was taken later by MH as 9M-MHI. Lastly with Air Atlanta Icelandic as TF-AAB.

British Airways eventually took up MSN 22305 / 506 as G-BDXL, which also ended up with Air Atlanta Icelandic as TF-ARF.

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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:51 am

Just ran into a picture of the frame they are going to sink:

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/ ... index.html

Did they paint it like the first 747 on purpose?
 
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Re: Bahrain plans to sink a B747

Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:17 pm

anyone who dives knows its cool to see planes on the bottom

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