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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:57 pm

BA retired G-CIVG today. The first of it’s 86J seaters to go. It will go on to it’s final resting place of St Athan airfield in the near future.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:36 pm

If you look at the ECube section on www.southwalesaviationgroup.co.uk you will find details of the fates of the previous BA B747.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:30 am

So sad to see the 744 fleet end their 30 years of flying at BA. BA has flown 747 for 50 years, they along with Japan Airlines, have been the biggest user of 747's. The only version they didn't buy was the 747-300, which is surprising since they needed the 747's capacity more than its range. The world's airlines are becoming generic with their big twins, at least the 777-9 will look great in BA colors.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:17 am

Arion640 wrote:
BA retired G-CIVG today. The first of it’s 86J seaters to go. It will go on to it’s final resting place of St Athan airfield in the near future.


Between these retirements of the 86Js and PHX losing the 747, it is starting to get real.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:50 am

Gemuser wrote:
And so ends QF 5th pod operations! :-(
And RR engine operations, at least for the time being!

Gemuser

RR operations continue with their A380s
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:21 am

RB211trent wrote:
Gemuser wrote:
And so ends QF 5th pod operations! :-(
And RR engine operations, at least for the time being!

Gemuser

RR operations continue with their A380s

True, but I was thinking of the RB-211 models.

Gemuser
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:00 pm

Gemuser wrote:
RB211trent wrote:
Gemuser wrote:
And so ends QF 5th pod operations! :-(
And RR engine operations, at least for the time being!

Gemuser

RR operations continue with their A380s

True, but I was thinking of the RB-211 models.

Gemuser

The Trent 900 is a RB211. The correct derivative operated by QF is RB211 TRENT 972-84.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:20 pm

RB211trent wrote:
Gemuser wrote:
RB211trent wrote:
RR operations continue with their A380s

True, but I was thinking of the RB-211 models.

Gemuser

The Trent 900 is a RB211. The correct derivative operated by QF is RB211 TRENT 972-84.


All right, since when? It certainly was not in the begining, in fact I have NEVER seen/heard the name "Trent" applied to the RB-211 on the B747. The name does not appear on the STC issued to QF when they put he same variant on their B747SP that was on their B747-300/400s. Seems a bit odd to me, although I know the current RR engines are derivite versions of the 3 spool 211.

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:13 am

jfk777 wrote:
So sad to see the 744 fleet end their 30 years of flying at BA. The only version they didn't buy was the 747-300,


I don't think that's even close to being true. Even half way. Can't remember the last time I heard of a British Airways 747SP, or D, or M, or F, or 748...
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:16 am

Gemuser wrote:
RB211trent wrote:
Gemuser wrote:
True, but I was thinking of the RB-211 models.

Gemuser

The Trent 900 is a RB211. The correct derivative operated by QF is RB211 TRENT 972-84.


All right, since when? It certainly was not in the begining, in fact I have NEVER seen/heard the name "Trent" applied to the RB-211 on the B747. The name does not appear on the STC issued to QF when they put he same variant on their B747SP that was on their B747-300/400s. Seems a bit odd to me, although I know the current RR engines are derivite versions of the 3 spool 211.

Gemuser


The RB211-524G/H-T - The T refers to a Trent tech insertion package. Someone else on here will likely know more
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:04 am

77west wrote:
Gemuser wrote:
RB211trent wrote:
The Trent 900 is a RB211. The correct derivative operated by QF is RB211 TRENT 972-84.


All right, since when? It certainly was not in the begining, in fact I have NEVER seen/heard the name "Trent" applied to the RB-211 on the B747. The name does not appear on the STC issued to QF when they put he same variant on their B747SP that was on their B747-300/400s. Seems a bit odd to me, although I know the current RR engines are derivite versions of the 3 spool 211.

Gemuser


The RB211-524G/H-T - The T refers to a Trent tech insertion package. Someone else on here will likely know more

Trent 500,700,800 and 900s are designated RB211, it even states it on the engine data plate fixed to the engine. The Trent 1000, 7000 and XWBs are not.

The T on the 524 is the upgraded HP turbine with Trent technology but no the RB211 524 has never been designated a Trent.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:13 am

RB211trent wrote:
Gemuser wrote:
And so ends QF 5th pod operations! :-(
And RR engine operations, at least for the time being!

Gemuser

RR operations continue with their A380s


And A350s.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:16 am

Air India still has three active 747-400s:

VT-ESO
VT-ESP
VT-EVB
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:34 am

scbriml wrote:
RB211trent wrote:
Gemuser wrote:
And so ends QF 5th pod operations! :-(
And RR engine operations, at least for the time being!

Gemuser

RR operations continue with their A380s


And A350s.


I presume you meant A330s. Those are GE powered I think?
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:42 am

zululima wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
So sad to see the 744 fleet end their 30 years of flying at BA. The only version they didn't buy was the 747-300,


I don't think that's even close to being true. Even half way. Can't remember the last time I heard of a British Airways 747SP, or D, or M, or F, or 748...

BA had -200Ms on lease from Middle East Airlines. Those three birds were also at Gulf Air and a few others. Combis were rare and commanded high lease rates. MEA received theirs as soon as the Lebanese civil war started, so they were immediately way too big as the torrent of tourists and business travellers slowed to a trickle of arms salesmen and aid workers. The income from leasing them out paid MEA’s payroll for the duration. And some of it came from BA.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:43 am

zululima wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
So sad to see the 744 fleet end their 30 years of flying at BA. The only version they didn't buy was the 747-300,


I don't think that's even close to being true. Even half way. Can't remember the last time I heard of a British Airways 747SP, or D, or M, or F, or 748...


By 'M' you mean the Combi I think. If so, BA operated five:
B747-2B4B G-BLVE and 'VF. Both leased from MEA.
B747-236 G-BDXM, XN and XP. All entered service as Combi's, and were later converted to full passenger configuration.
Strictly speaking not BA, but BA World Cargo operated three B747-47UF and two B747-87UF, all leased from Atlas.
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:32 am

Nov 17, 2019

British Airways Boeing 747-436 G-CIVG was withdrawn from service at London Heathrow this morning after arriving as BA294 from Chicago then positioned London Heathrow – Cardiff-Wales for decomissioning this afternoon as BA9172. The aircraft was in 14F/86J/30W/145Y and White Union Flag with Crest livery on withdrawal.

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:14 am

Arion640 wrote:
BA retired G-CIVG today. The first of it’s 86J seaters to go. It will go on to it’s final resting place of St Athan airfield in the near future.


Whats its mileage (flight hours/cycles)? Slightly above 100 k hours is my estimate.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:42 pm

na wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
BA retired G-CIVG today. The first of it’s 86J seaters to go. It will go on to it’s final resting place of St Athan airfield in the near future.


Whats its mileage (flight hours/cycles)? Slightly above 100 k hours is my estimate.


Last hours I could find from G-INFO:
TOTAL HOURS:
99992 at 15-Jan-2019
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:26 pm

Spacepope wrote:
na wrote:
Arion640 wrote:
BA retired G-CIVG today. The first of it’s 86J seaters to go. It will go on to it’s final resting place of St Athan airfield in the near future.


Whats its mileage (flight hours/cycles)? Slightly above 100 k hours is my estimate.


Last hours I could find from G-INFO:
TOTAL HOURS:
99992 at 15-Jan-2019



Thank you, I was right then, and the final count should be around 103.000 hours.
 
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:41 am

Guys, I know this is not an B744, but still belongs to 747 family.

A mothballed B742 was recently surrected and flown out of MZJ to join active fleet over Christmas....

Boeing 747‑236F(SCD) 23735 674 4L-GEN AirGeoSky delivery 24-25dec19 MZJ-TUS-TBS, all white ex N217RJ
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=3

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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:43 pm

juliuswong wrote:
Guys, I know this is not an B744, but still belongs to 747 family.

A mothballed B742 was recently surrected and flown out of MZJ to join active fleet over Christmas....

Boeing 747‑236F(SCD) 23735 674 4L-GEN AirGeoSky delivery 24-25dec19 MZJ-TUS-TBS, all white ex N217RJ
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=3

Ex-British Airways G-BDXN. She is 32.8 years young!

What is Air Geo Sky?
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Fri Dec 27, 2019 12:52 am

steeler83 wrote:
juliuswong wrote:
Guys, I know this is not an B744, but still belongs to 747 family.

A mothballed B742 was recently surrected and flown out of MZJ to join active fleet over Christmas....

Boeing 747‑236F(SCD) 23735 674 4L-GEN AirGeoSky delivery 24-25dec19 MZJ-TUS-TBS, all white ex N217RJ
Source: https://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb. ... av4&page=3

Ex-British Airways G-BDXN. She is 32.8 years young!

What is Air Geo Sky?

Should be this all-cargo airline based in Georgia: https://airgeosky.ge/
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Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread 2019

Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:27 am

KLM's PH-BFI (msn25086) made it's last ever landing at Amsterdam yesterday and will be flown to Teruel today.
 
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