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Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:07 pm

An interesting tweet announced on the East African Aviation Thread - 2019
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1411967

Until January 20, 2019, there were 28,000 passengers had used Kenya Airways direct flight from New York to Nairobi KQ002/KQ003


After a brief calculation, I found an average load factor of 89%. Is it correct?
28,000 divided by 31,356 (= seats available from 28/10 to 20/01).
This is quite encouraging and let's hope figures will get even better before the summer, and it would be great to know in which proportion is the connecting trafic!

Njoroge further disclosed that KQ is targeting to move 99,000 passengers before the end of this year. Do you think that it is a realistic target?

He says the nonstop flights have led to growth in the number of tourists and more investors are showing interest in setting shop in Kenya.
Last week, the airline announced a 30 percent discount on tickets for passengers flying Economy Class as it celebrates its 42nd birthday. KQ said the promotion would apply to travelers who book and pay for tickets before February 5th, 2019, and travel by December 10th, 2019.
"The fare offer is valid on selected destination across its network," the airline said in a statement. Under the offer, customers can also purchase a Business Class ticket and get the second one free.

https://twitter.com/CBKKenya/status/109 ... 13/photo/1
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:04 pm

I find this very interesting! The figures are seriously impressive.
 
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:51 pm

nairobby wrote:
I find this very interesting! The figures are seriously impressive.

Well, the first two flights (inaugurals) were almost exclusively giveaway tickets.
If yields are good then the route can quickly become a cash cow like NBO-LHR.
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:19 pm

Very solid numbers for a long and thin route like this! Hope it continues to be successful!
 
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:16 am

I really think a change in config could really help KQ here. The front of the plane seems to always be full, maybe add more biz seats and premium economy. Wish they had enough aircraft to do this.
 
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:29 am

Lets not forget they canceled many flights and consolidated loads due poor bookings per CEO own words.

Q. Just how poorly were some of the flights selling that they ended up canceling?
A. There will be not even 20% of passengers onboard, let’s cancel 10 flights. We will just not load flights on those dates.

Q. What the targets for the flight have been since it launched?
A. The planes were never supposed to be full for the first six months, before we started we said that if we reached 65% load factor that is very good.


KQ is operating a reduced schedule until June 2019 at JFK.
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:41 am

janders wrote:
Lets not forget they canceled many flights and consolidated loads due poor bookings per CEO own words.

Q. Just how poorly were some of the flights selling that they ended up canceling?
A. There will be not even 20% of passengers onboard, let’s cancel 10 flights. We will just not load flights on those dates.

Q. What the targets for the flight have been since it launched?
A. The planes were never supposed to be full for the first six months, before we started we said that if we reached 65% load factor that is very good.


KQ is operating a reduced schedule until June 2019 at JFK.


A daily schedule was always too ambitious and a waste of resources. I think 5x weekly will be more manageable. No point wasting money on a prestige route when you're trying to get back to profitability
 
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:44 am

eastafspot wrote:
An interesting tweet announced on the East African Aviation Thread - 2019
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1411967

Until January 20, 2019, there were 28,000 passengers had used Kenya Airways direct flight from New York to Nairobi KQ002/KQ003


After a brief calculation, I found an average load factor of 89%. Is it correct?
28,000 divided by 31,356 (= seats available from 28/10 to 20/01).
This is quite encouraging and let's hope figures will get even better before the summer, and it would be great to know in which proportion is the connecting trafic!

Njoroge further disclosed that KQ is targeting to move 99,000 passengers before the end of this year. Do you think that it is a realistic target?

He says the nonstop flights have led to growth in the number of tourists and more investors are showing interest in setting shop in Kenya.
Last week, the airline announced a 30 percent discount on tickets for passengers flying Economy Class as it celebrates its 42nd birthday. KQ said the promotion would apply to travelers who book and pay for tickets before February 5th, 2019, and travel by December 10th, 2019.
"The fare offer is valid on selected destination across its network," the airline said in a statement. Under the offer, customers can also purchase a Business Class ticket and get the second one free.

https://twitter.com/CBKKenya/status/109 ... 13/photo/1


That must be a typo because if he “moved” 29k in 1 month I’am sure 99k is very doable in the nect 2-3 months. So if I am assuming correctly he is trageting 900k + for the year? Impressive
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:51 am

gokmengs wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
An interesting tweet announced on the East African Aviation Thread - 2019
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1411967

Until January 20, 2019, there were 28,000 passengers had used Kenya Airways direct flight from New York to Nairobi KQ002/KQ003


After a brief calculation, I found an average load factor of 89%. Is it correct?
28,000 divided by 31,356 (= seats available from 28/10 to 20/01).
This is quite encouraging and let's hope figures will get even better before the summer, and it would be great to know in which proportion is the connecting trafic!

Njoroge further disclosed that KQ is targeting to move 99,000 passengers before the end of this year. Do you think that it is a realistic target?

He says the nonstop flights have led to growth in the number of tourists and more investors are showing interest in setting shop in Kenya.
Last week, the airline announced a 30 percent discount on tickets for passengers flying Economy Class as it celebrates its 42nd birthday. KQ said the promotion would apply to travelers who book and pay for tickets before February 5th, 2019, and travel by December 10th, 2019.
"The fare offer is valid on selected destination across its network," the airline said in a statement. Under the offer, customers can also purchase a Business Class ticket and get the second one free.

https://twitter.com/CBKKenya/status/109 ... 13/photo/1


That must be a typo because if he “moved” 29k in 1 month I’am sure 99k is very doable in the nect 2-3 months. So if I am assuming correctly he is trageting 900k + for the year? Impressive


To move 900K pax , means 2465 seats each day, which is about 9-10 787's a day. 90K is definitely more realistic
 
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:10 am

eastafspot wrote:
After a brief calculation, I found an average load factor of 89%. Is it correct?
28,000 divided by 31,356 (= seats available from 28/10 to 20/01).
This is quite encouraging and let's hope figures will get even better before the summer, and it would be great to know in which proportion is the connecting trafic!


I think connecting traffic is maybe a third that. Huge interest on this route from Southern Africa, Eastern and the vanilla islands
 
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:11 am

eastafspot wrote:
After a brief calculation, I found an average load factor of 89%. Is it correct?
28,000 divided by 31,356 (= seats available from 28/10 to 20/01).
This is quite encouraging and let's hope figures will get even better before the summer, and it would be great to know in which proportion is the connecting trafic!


I think connecting traffic is maybe a third that. Huge interest on this route from Southern Africa, Eastern and the vanilla islands
 
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:38 am

gokmengs wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
An interesting tweet announced on the East African Aviation Thread - 2019
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1411967

Until January 20, 2019, there were 28,000 passengers had used Kenya Airways direct flight from New York to Nairobi KQ002/KQ003


After a brief calculation, I found an average load factor of 89%. Is it correct?
28,000 divided by 31,356 (= seats available from 28/10 to 20/01).
This is quite encouraging and let's hope figures will get even better before the summer, and it would be great to know in which proportion is the connecting trafic!

Njoroge further disclosed that KQ is targeting to move 99,000 passengers before the end of this year. Do you think that it is a realistic target?

He says the nonstop flights have led to growth in the number of tourists and more investors are showing interest in setting shop in Kenya.
Last week, the airline announced a 30 percent discount on tickets for passengers flying Economy Class as it celebrates its 42nd birthday. KQ said the promotion would apply to travelers who book and pay for tickets before February 5th, 2019, and travel by December 10th, 2019.
"The fare offer is valid on selected destination across its network," the airline said in a statement. Under the offer, customers can also purchase a Business Class ticket and get the second one free.

https://twitter.com/CBKKenya/status/109 ... 13/photo/1


That must be a typo because if he “moved” 29k in 1 month I’am sure 99k is very doable in the nect 2-3 months. So if I am assuming correctly he is trageting 900k + for the year? Impressive


From memory those 99k pax would result in a load factor of around 81%, so 900K pax would be an excellent news but highly unlikely...
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:42 am

nairobby wrote:
eastafspot wrote:
After a brief calculation, I found an average load factor of 89%. Is it correct?
28,000 divided by 31,356 (= seats available from 28/10 to 20/01).
This is quite encouraging and let's hope figures will get even better before the summer, and it would be great to know in which proportion is the connecting trafic!


I think connecting traffic is maybe a third that. Huge interest on this route from Southern Africa, Eastern and the vanilla islands

Agree, due to popularity, KQ now goes daily to the Seychelles Islands (SEZ), and improves connectivity to the rest of the network
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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Wed May 01, 2019 7:32 pm

The NBO-JFK flight is not deemed lucrative despite the hype, according to the CEO. It's just another route that "[...] is necessary but difficult. It is performing in the range that we expected. It is feeding our African network. It positions us differently"

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Re: Kenya Airways moved about 28,000 pax on NBO - JFK

Wed May 01, 2019 8:12 pm

Reading ths thread now for the first time...what were all (or well, most) posters thinking? Impressed by those pax numbers? The OP said two entire flights worth of tickets were giveaways. Then "2 for1" Business class deals. Discounts in Economy "because it is our 42nd birthday". Give me a break!... It is obvious that the yield on these flights must be rock bottom. Why else...?...
For the umpteenth time: Anyone can fill a flight from Kathmandu to La Paz, if you give the tickets away. Load factors per se mean zilch, zero, nothing. It is like saying "my vehicle has got a 300 HP engine", which says absolutely nothing about how fast it accelerates, until you know whether it is a Porsche or a lorry.

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