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U.S to grant Vietnam safety rating paving way for air service

Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:49 am

Per Reuters, the U.S FAA is expected to grant a Category 1 IASA safety rating to Vietnam in the coming weeks, giving its airlines the opportunity to fly to the United States and codeshare with American carriers, two U.S. officials said on Wednesday.


U.S. regulator to free up flights by Vietnam airlines: sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1PP0EJ

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VN has a pending 2016 application with DOT for LAX service using A350s. The safety rating would allow the DOT to finally action the request.
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:56 am

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Per Reuters, the U.S FAA is expected to grant a Category 1 IASA safety rating to Vietnam in the coming weeks, giving its airlines the opportunity to fly to the United States and codeshare with American carriers, two U.S. officials said on Wednesday.


U.S. regulator to free up flights by Vietnam airlines: sources
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1PP0EJ

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VN has a pending 2016 application with DOT for LAX service using A350s. The safety rating would allow the DOT to finally action the request.




Good news. LAX is an essential part of any international carrier's network. And with the 359s, VN can add it without losing their shirt.
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:27 am

I didn't realize there was such a restriction, explains why I was with an American on my CDG-HAN flight last October on VN, it was his third leg !
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:26 pm

Hopefully this will become DL codeshare.
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:45 pm

each time there’s a rumor of a new UA INT’L route, i’m the fool who is convinced that it will be LAX-SGN (PDEW from LAX is much greater than SFO, which is why i think UA would operate the route from LAX).

it now looks like VN will be flying SGN-LAX in the not-too-distant future, so i’ll try to stop being so naive about UA.
 
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:03 pm

Good to see. Should benefit consumers and shippers.
 
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VN will need to upgrade their offering, the hard product is fine, but the food and IFE are nowhere near up to standard to go against one stops on CX etc.
 
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Hopefully this will become DL codeshare.


I doubt it. Historically, DL did codeshare on the HND-SGN flight which was timed well with the MSP-HND flight. But with the DL-KE JV, DL no longer codeshares on that route.

So most likely, DL will stick to routing passengers via ICN rather than codesharing on a potential LAX-SGN flight.
 
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Hopefully this will become DL codeshare.


I thought DL had a codeshare between SGN-NRT but it probably gone away. Here is to hoping for a SGN-LAX codeshare!
 
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:29 pm

klakzky123 wrote:
DL747400 wrote:
Hopefully this will become DL codeshare.


I doubt it. Historically, DL did codeshare on the HND-SGN flight which was timed well with the MSP-HND flight. But with the DL-KE JV, DL no longer codeshares on that route.

So most likely, DL will stick to routing passengers via ICN rather than codesharing on a potential LAX-SGN flight.


That would just be stabbing themselves in the eye. LAX is going to be the greatest U.S. origin.
 
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Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:20 pm

Interesting.. I didn't expect that they would get it until the end this year or 2020.

My guess is that there will be some restriction on this route, it is very likely that it will be cargo heavy.
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VN will need to upgrade their offering, the hard product is fine, but the food and IFE are nowhere near up to standard to go against one stops on CX etc.


I've had two shorthaul flights with VN (KUL-SGN and SGN-TPE) and absolutely loved their catering
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:26 am

with VN possible entrance into the LA area, will it hurt CI, BR, DL etc at LAX and ONT since most Vietnamese would travel with them, and now VN with its non-stop to SGN unless I'm mistaken, its going rob a bit of their business. Let's see how they adjust to this.
 
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LH748 wrote:
jetwet1 wrote:
VN will need to upgrade their offering, the hard product is fine, but the food and IFE are nowhere near up to standard to go against one stops on CX etc.


I've had two shorthaul flights with VN (KUL-SGN and SGN-TPE) and absolutely loved their catering


Yeah I agree. All my VN flights have been great, nice hard and soft products.
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DL747400 wrote:
Hopefully this will become DL codeshare.


I thought DL had a codeshare between SGN-NRT but it probably gone away. Here is to hoping for a SGN-LAX codeshare!


MSP-HND is a DL/VN codeshare. My NRT-HND/SGN-NRT flights were a DL codeshare (I earned Skymiles). I think the HND-SGN flight is also codeshared.

Overall, this is good for VN. Downside is that SGN is already way over capacity and HAN is growing really fast so I wonder what will get sacrificed to make this work. SGN won't get their new airport for a while too.
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:41 am

Lets see if VN can do it. If they can, then TG can too.
 
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If they can, then TG can too.

Indeed.

It's not like they're different airlines, with different direct costs, different markets, different governance, different configurations, different financing, different opportunity costs, etc, or anything.... ;)
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Overall, this is good for VN. Downside is that SGN is already way over capacity and HAN is growing really fast so I wonder what will get sacrificed to make this work. SGN won't get their new airport for a while too.


True. SGN has almost doubled the apron space in the last 9 months, which has allowed it to handle and park many more aircraft, but the terminals are at capacity. Terminal 3 has been approved for construction to start soon, as we as removing the military golf course on the far side (to be used for maintenance and non-passenger services). The plan is to keep the current airport, but upgrading immediately, as well as building the new airport in the next province to start in 2025.

That said, VN will treat this as a trophy route, and will do what ever is necessary to make it work!
 
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VN will need to upgrade their offering, the hard product is fine, but the food and IFE are nowhere near up to standard to go against one stops on CX etc.

Their product is better than UA, CA, CZ and half a dozen other airlines that fly across the pacific, and it hasn’t hurt them.
 
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with VN possible entrance into the LA area, will it hurt CI, BR, DL etc at LAX and ONT since most Vietnamese would travel with them, and now VN with its non-stop to SGN unless I'm mistaken, its going rob a bit of their business. Let's see how they adjust to this.


I understand what you are saying, but Vietnam is not a premium country to visit. The fares are hovering at $500-600 r/t I low season already. I expect VN may be able to charge a small premium for a non-stop, but like the Philippines, it is mostly VFR & extremely price sensitive.

I think the challenge VN will have is making a profit & with the A-350 the dynamics may be there to make it work, I wish them the best, hopefully the timing will allow regional connections. If they compete with CI, BR, KE & others for a low yield ticket, is CI, BR or KE really losing much?
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centrair wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
DL747400 wrote:
Hopefully this will become DL codeshare.


I thought DL had a codeshare between SGN-NRT but it probably gone away. Here is to hoping for a SGN-LAX codeshare!


MSP-HND is a DL/VN codeshare. My NRT-HND/SGN-NRT flights were a DL codeshare (I earned Skymiles). I think the HND-SGN flight is also codeshared.

Overall, this is good for VN. Downside is that SGN is already way over capacity and HAN is growing really fast so I wonder what will get sacrificed to make this work. SGN won't get their new airport for a while too.


I took a quick look and I'm unable to book the HND-SGN segment on DL anymore. DL just routes you through ICN now. I suspect the VN codeshares are all dead now that the DL-KE JV is in effect.
 
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Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:12 pm

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Lets see if VN can do it. If they can, then TG can too.


VN is not TG. VN has been profitable for many years - they actually just announced 2018 profit should be around USD $120mil

Yes, a US route, especially a nonstop one will near certainly be loss-making carrying diaspora and tourist traffic, though it will be an import endeavor from a national point of view for Vietnam and one that will certainly have government encouragement if not actual financial support.
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It won't happen if the US government shuts down again in a couple of weeks.
 
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MIflyer12 wrote:
klakzky123 wrote:
DL747400 wrote:
Hopefully this will become DL codeshare.


I doubt it. Historically, DL did codeshare on the HND-SGN flight which was timed well with the MSP-HND flight. But with the DL-KE JV, DL no longer codeshares on that route.

So most likely, DL will stick to routing passengers via ICN rather than codesharing on a potential LAX-SGN flight.


That would just be stabbing themselves in the eye. LAX is going to be the greatest U.S. origin.


For what it's worth, KE codeshares with VN on flights between ICN and HAN (VN417/KE5683 and VN416/KE5684) and ICN and SGN (VN409/KE5681 and VN408/KE5681 on one schedule, and VN405/KE5675 and VN404/KE5676 on the other). VN would be better off codesharing on other KE and DL flights to and from the USA out of ICN (an upgrade to Category 1 allows for a US airline to accept a codeshare). Vietnam is not a huge business destination and just because you can do a route doesn't mean you should! VN has made money by being smart.

Another wrinkle: even though VN is owned mostly by the Vietnamese government, an 8.8 percent stake in VN is held by NH, a Star Alliance member, and VN is probably closer to NH than KE. Is a possible 1-stop via HND or NRT possible instead on an NH codeshare?
 
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Would IAH-SGN be a long shot?
 
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klakzky123 wrote:

For what it's worth, KE codeshares with VN on flights between ICN and HAN (VN417/KE5683 and VN416/KE5684) and ICN and SGN (VN409/KE5681 and VN408/KE5681 on one schedule, and VN405/KE5675 and VN404/KE5676 on the other). VN would be better off codesharing on other KE and DL flights to and from the USA out of ICN (an upgrade to Category 1 allows for a US airline to accept a codeshare). Vietnam is not a huge business destination and just because you can do a route doesn't mean you should! VN has made money by being smart.

Another wrinkle: even though VN is owned mostly by the Vietnamese government, an 8.8 percent stake in VN is held by NH, a Star Alliance member, and VN is probably closer to NH than KE. Is a possible 1-stop via HND or NRT possible instead on an NH codeshare?


With the way DL and KE are working, I would not be surprised if US-ICN-Vietnam all get codeshared.
I was just looking on the VN website. The HND-MSP flight is still set as VN3026 but the Japan to Vietnam are not codeshared.

VN may be closer to NH but right now they share the same satellites at NRT as DL and at HND, they park near DL as well.
Assuming VN starts from LAX, would that flight be codeshared with DL? (I think it will be)
And... if it were possible, would they expand to other locations with large Vietnamese populations like Houston, Dallas and Minneapolis (last one is far fetched).

As US investment in Vietnam increases, I would think the front seats on VN would become quite valuable.
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Any chance Air America flying to Saigon?
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https://ampe.vnexpress.net/news/busines ... 80252.html

This article says none of the local air carriers of Vietnam have an aircraft capable of reaching the U.S. and possibly needing to order the A350-1000 or B787-8(guessing that would be Vietnam Airlines). Bamboo Airways has B787-9 coming but not until after 2020.
A other note is any airline from Vietnam starting service to the U.S. will probably lose revenue for the first few years.

Who would be the first airline to start service?
 
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PHLspecial wrote:
https://ampe.vnexpress.net/news/business/economy/vietnamese-airlines-excited-worried-about-direct-us-flights-3880252.html

This article says none of the local air carriers of Vietnam have an aircraft capable of reaching the U.S. and possibly needing to order the A350-1000 or B787-8(guessing that would be Vietnam Airlines). Bamboo Airways has B787-9 coming but not until after 2020.
A other note is any airline from Vietnam starting service to the U.S. will probably lose revenue for the first few years.

Who would be the first airline to start service?


I find that article strange. It says that there are no aircraft available - VN has the 787-9 and A350 in its fleet - both with more range than the 7,098 NM between SGN & LAX, then it goes on that they would need to buy the 787-8 (which has less range than the -9). I think we can discount that article completely.

As for the first carrier - it will be VN, as it is a trophy route they have been trying to put in place for years. The government also see it is a trophy route, so VN will be required to do it - even if weight or passenger restricted initially. I can't see any US airlines getting on board for some time - yields just wont be there for them to focus on,
 
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Will it enable them to serve Mariana?
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Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:22 am

Its official. US FAA says Vietnam complies with safety standards, giving its airlines the opportunity to fly to the United States and codeshare with American carriers.


U.S. says Vietnam meets international aviation standards
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I know it's not US but I'd love to see VN in YUL… :cloudnine:
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I’m very happy and excited by this news, although it won’t be a trip I take, as an SGN resident I’m always glad to hear about new routes from here. I expect an A350 service to LAX to be announced before too long, from what I understand VN has options for A350s, and now that regulatory approval has been granted these options will be firmed up, and they will be the higher MTOW variant, although I’m sure the current A350s can fly the routes without too much restriction in the interim.

Given that Bamboo has finally started operations (I was surprised to see their new A321neo at SGN recently) I eagerly await to see what plans they have for their 787s. VJ was rumoured to be looking at US routes as well, but I’m not quite as convinced on that front.
 
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Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:44 pm

I believe that VN have 10x A350 280t on order, I could be wrong.

But, I won't be surprised when they use one of their 789s for the first flight.
 
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Would IAH-SGN be a long shot?


It would be a long shot. There’s a sizable Vietnamese community here but other than a few friend and family trips I dont know about the viability of a direct flight. And is nonstop doable with their new 787s and A350s?
 
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VN and Bamboo will both end up serving LAX and have other destinations on their radar such as SFO and SEA, and JFK. Both airlines have low costs lower than the China 3, CA,CZ and MU bringing more competition to the Asia-US market. Additionally, US visits to Vietnam are growing exponentially as Vietnam further develops its tourism industry which US companies have invested heavily in. Similar to China, in Vietnam many business decisions are made based upon prestige, face and not purely profit.
 
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Would IAH-SGN be a long shot?


Let me put it this way. IAH-SGN has a way better shot than PHL-SGN. Philadelphia has a decent size Vietnamese community but nothing compared to the Texas or New York markets. California is a given. United may do the route one day, but it's likely going to be SFO-SGN.
 
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I wonder what the PDEW is to SJC? I only bring it up because the South Bay has a LARGE Vietnamese population.
 
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Seems VN seeks to link to the US either nonstop or 1-stop basis, but profitability not of importance.

Vietnam Airlines appears resigned to a government mandate for service irrespective of commercial opportunity. The airline said in a statement quoted by Reuters that “for Vietnam Airlines, launching routes to the U.S. is our political responsibility as a national airline. Whether or not the route is commercially feasible depends quite a lot on technical issues and aircraft”.

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Looked at Expedia;

Cheapest is Vietnam at $730, next Cathay Pacific at $824.

The cheapest US3 is AA at $1,003.

If cost is the priority, then this looks good.

That is flying out today and back in a week.
 
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VN will need to upgrade their offering, the hard product is fine, but the food and IFE are nowhere near up to standard to go against one stops on CX etc.


I've had two shorthaul flights with VN (KUL-SGN and SGN-TPE) and absolutely loved their catering


Yeah I agree. All my VN flights have been great, nice hard and soft products.


Ever make a post at 1am, come back 3 weeks later and wonder what you were talking about ?? Yeah, that's me this morning....It actually took a few minutes to try and figure out the point I was trying to put across, badly.

On the 4 flights I have taken with them, the food itself tasted great, however, it was like they had taken the economy meal and dumped it on a plate, I guess I should have put upgrade service standards ???? But that isn't really fair either as the crews on those flights were some of the best I have come across on any airlines, if they can figure out how to serve a meal to international J standards they will be fine.
 
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I wonder what the PDEW is to SJC? I only bring it up because the South Bay has a LARGE Vietnamese population.


I am sure the PDEW's are currently very small as most of that traffic is going via SFO, but the vast majority of the Bay Area Vietnamese population lives in Santa Clara County followed by Alameda County. Vietnamese in San Francisco itself seems rather low in comparison for the region. Will SJC be able to wrestle that flight away from SFO? Unlikely imo, but it probably has one of the strongest cases of any airline to NOT go to SFO. That being said, I would suspect LAX will receive the first flight, but who knows. The Bay Area typically has significantly higher yields than LAX, but since VN has said this route is more about prestige than profitability, they will go the big named airport, LAX.

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Interesting news for this story from the summit currently being held in 'Nam: Bamboo Airways will firm an order for 10 789s.

http://e.vnexpress.net/news/trump-kim-s ... v_XUrZTe4o
 
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SonaSounds wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
I wonder what the PDEW is to SJC? I only bring it up because the South Bay has a LARGE Vietnamese population.


I am sure the PDEW's are currently very small as most of that traffic is going via SFO, but the vast majority of the Bay Area Vietnamese population lives in Santa Clara County followed by Alameda County. Vietnamese in San Francisco itself seems rather low in comparison for the region. Will SJC be able to wrestle that flight away from SFO? Unlikely imo, but it probably has one of the strongest cases of any airline to NOT go to SFO. That being said, I would suspect LAX will receive the first flight, but who knows. The Bay Area typically has significantly higher yields than LAX, but since VN has said this route is more about prestige than profitability, they will go the big named airport, LAX.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... opulations


Agreed on all points. I just wonder if SJC could be a viable market for 1 or 2x/week?
 
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Re: U.S to grant Vietnam safety rating paving way for air service

Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:37 pm

AirFiero wrote:
SonaSounds wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
I wonder what the PDEW is to SJC? I only bring it up because the South Bay has a LARGE Vietnamese population.


I am sure the PDEW's are currently very small as most of that traffic is going via SFO, but the vast majority of the Bay Area Vietnamese population lives in Santa Clara County followed by Alameda County. Vietnamese in San Francisco itself seems rather low in comparison for the region. Will SJC be able to wrestle that flight away from SFO? Unlikely imo, but it probably has one of the strongest cases of any airline to NOT go to SFO. That being said, I would suspect LAX will receive the first flight, but who knows. The Bay Area typically has significantly higher yields than LAX, but since VN has said this route is more about prestige than profitability, they will go the big named airport, LAX.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... opulations


Agreed on all points. I just wonder if SJC could be a viable market for 1 or 2x/week?


If they start LAX and then say SEA, I could see them bypassing SFO and going to SJC a few times a week. If they enter the SFO market though, I would say the chances of a SJC launch are near nil.
 
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Re: U.S to grant Vietnam safety rating paving way for air service

Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:40 pm

AirFiero wrote:
Agreed on all points. I just wonder if SJC could be a viable market for 1 or 2x/week?


If you fly with such a low frequency you just get near-zero business demand to fill the front of the plane. My guess: LAX, 5x weekly.
 
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Re: U.S to grant Vietnam safety rating paving way for air service

Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:58 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
Agreed on all points. I just wonder if SJC could be a viable market for 1 or 2x/week?


If you fly with such a low frequency you just get near-zero business demand to fill the front of the plane. My guess: LAX, 5x weekly.


I agree. As has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum, SJC has long suffered with weakness in attracting and sustaining international service. Lack of direct train service, lower profile than SFO, lack of lounge services, and a location that isn't that much better than SFO for people in the East Bay/SF/Peninsula. Heck, for VN, even fewer connecting flights on DL. Santa Clara has large numbers of Chinese, but CA couldn't make PVG work. LH left to consolidate at SFO. SJC has seen expansion, but its strength seems to be in domestic travel for P2P travelers.

LAX will almost certainly be first, and maybe SFO at less than daily frequency.
 
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Re: U.S to grant Vietnam safety rating paving way for air service

Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:38 pm

MIflyer12 wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
Agreed on all points. I just wonder if SJC could be a viable market for 1 or 2x/week?


If you fly with such a low frequency you just get near-zero business demand to fill the front of the plane. My guess: LAX, 5x weekly.


Point taken, but is potential traffic more business or VFR?
 
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Re: U.S to grant Vietnam safety rating paving way for air service

Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:56 pm

AirFiero wrote:
I wonder what the PDEW is to SJC? I only bring it up because the South Bay has a LARGE Vietnamese population.



The San Jose area has a largest Vietnamese population but most likely LAX will be first due to possible Delta connections. Vietnam Airlines expects to lose money on this LAX-SGN route for multiple years because of the lack of premium business travelers. Though I am curious if VN will order the 777x-8 or the A350-1000 for this route.
 
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Re: U.S to grant Vietnam safety rating paving way for air service

Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:00 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
I wonder what the PDEW is to SJC? I only bring it up because the South Bay has a LARGE Vietnamese population.



The San Jose area has a largest Vietnamese population but most likely LAX will be first due to possible Delta connections. Vietnam Airlines expects to lose money on this LAX-SGN route for multiple years because of the lack of premium business travelers. Though I am curious if VN will order the 777x-8 or the A350-1000 for this route.


Oh, I have NO doubt LAX will be first, if not the only N/S destination. I’m curious what might happen down the road. I grew up in San Jose, and there are a LOT of Vietnamese people in the South Bay.

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