tkoenig95 wrote:

Would this be a good jab at TPAC route for AUS?

Momo1435 wrote:

Good luck to them.

Korea has already 2 major intercontinental airlines, that's already much for an country with a population of 51 million.

But if you want to start an airline with new airplanes, going with the 787 is safe bet. Also for the lessors of the plane.

janders wrote:

tkoenig95 wrote:

Would this be a good jab at TPAC route for AUS?

As story indicates they are going for largely existing big Korea routes - LA, SF, Hawaii, YVR, Australia, not some long thin random route to Austin.

janders wrote:

Yes Korea might have 2 intercontinental airlines, but the nation has very high travel propensity and some very large international markets that could use another player with a different concept.

Heck much smaller Taiwan will have 3 intercontinental airlines soon also.

LAXintl wrote:

Besides fact of already having led one successful airline, this startup has the benefit of Korea-US being indeed a massive underlying market.

Just between Seoul and LAX, some 1.2mil flew the route in 2018, making it the largest US mainland to Asia airport pair. Just being able to garner a small share of the existing flow without even much stimulation will fill a daily 787.

zakuivcustom wrote:

The livery does look very similar to SN .

I wish the startup best. Maybe price is low enough that TPAC LCC trip from US (especially West Coast, but pretty much everywhere in US) to places around East/SE Asia is no longer a dream? Especially if there is some interlining agreements from Air Premia to one of the South Korean LCC (i.e. Jeju Air?)

tkoenig95 wrote:

janders wrote:

tkoenig95 wrote:

Would this be a good jab at TPAC route for AUS?

As story indicates they are going for largely existing big Korea routes - LA, SF, Hawaii, YVR, Australia, not some long thin random route to Austin.

Unfortunately you don't know much about tech hubs on either side of the Pacific, but small routes as such can be profitable if the cards are played correctly.

LAXLHR wrote:

zakuivcustom wrote:

The livery does look very similar to SN .

I wish the startup best. Maybe price is low enough that TPAC LCC trip from US (especially West Coast, but pretty much everywhere in US) to places around East/SE Asia is no longer a dream? Especially if there is some interlining agreements from Air Premia to one of the South Korean LCC (i.e. Jeju Air?)

It was on sale at the worldwide airline livery store! hahaha.

tkoenig95 wrote:

but small routes as such can be profitable if the cards are played correctly.

UPlog wrote:

Livery reminds me of Brussels Airlines.

janders wrote:

Yes Korea might have 2 intercontinental airlines, but the nation has very high travel propensity and some very large international markets that could use another player with a different concept.

Heck much smaller Taiwan will have 3 intercontinental airlines soon also.

JAAlbert wrote:

UPlog wrote:

Livery reminds me of Brussels Airlines.

Always exciting to see a new carrier, especially when it's buying brand spanking state-of-the art planes. But does the tail graphic mean something? Perhaps if I knew what "Premia" meant, I might have a better idea. Is Premia a Korean term or something based on a Korean word?

tkoenig95 wrote:

janders wrote:

tkoenig95 wrote:

Would this be a good jab at TPAC route for AUS?

As story indicates they are going for largely existing big Korea routes - LA, SF, Hawaii, YVR, Australia, not some long thin random route to Austin.

Unfortunately you don't know much about tech hubs on either side of the Pacific, but small routes as such can be profitable if the cards are played correctly.

OA940 wrote:

Asia could definitely use some more LHLCCs. Glad to see someone is taking that role up. If the price is right, they should be able to attract quite a few travellers, especially on the huge market that is ICN-LAX/SFO. I don't have doubts they can succeed in that environment, even though they have to find the right rate of expansion, to both be able to compete with the two majors in Korea successfully and to avoid a rapid expansion rate that could lead to a Primera, WOW, or Norwegian situation.

planemanofnz wrote:

I wonder what the response from KE and OZ will be - particularly KE potentially expanding Jin Air, who already have some long-haul destinations, like Australia.

Cheers,

C.

janders wrote:

tkoenig95 wrote:

Would this be a good jab at TPAC route for AUS?

As story indicates they are going for largely existing big Korea routes - LA, SF, Hawaii, YVR, Australia, not some long thin random route to Austin.

c933103 wrote:

OA940 wrote:

Asia could definitely use some more LHLCCs. Glad to see someone is taking that role up. If the price is right, they should be able to attract quite a few travellers, especially on the huge market that is ICN-LAX/SFO. I don't have doubts they can succeed in that environment, even though they have to find the right rate of expansion, to both be able to compete with the two majors in Korea successfully and to avoid a rapid expansion rate that could lead to a Primera, WOW, or Norwegian situation.

planemanofnz wrote:

I wonder what the response from KE and OZ will be - particularly KE potentially expanding Jin Air, who already have some long-haul destinations, like Australia.

Cheers,

C.

I won't describe an airlines which is going to offer 35" seat pitch in economy class with free baggage and free meal and free wifi as LCC, although they claim their ticket price will be 10-20% less than legacy full service carriers

OA940 wrote:

c933103 wrote:

OA940 wrote:

Asia could definitely use some more LHLCCs. Glad to see someone is taking that role up. If the price is right, they should be able to attract quite a few travellers, especially on the huge market that is ICN-LAX/SFO. I don't have doubts they can succeed in that environment, even though they have to find the right rate of expansion, to both be able to compete with the two majors in Korea successfully and to avoid a rapid expansion rate that could lead to a Primera, WOW, or Norwegian situation.

planemanofnz wrote:

I wonder what the response from KE and OZ will be - particularly KE potentially expanding Jin Air, who already have some long-haul destinations, like Australia.

Cheers,

C.

I won't describe an airlines which is going to offer 35" seat pitch in economy class with free baggage and free meal and free wifi as LCC, although they claim their ticket price will be 10-20% less than legacy full service carriers

Wait did they actually say they were gonna have 35'' Y seats? Are you sure its not like Y+ or something?

c933103 wrote:

OA940 wrote:

c933103 wrote:

I won't describe an airlines which is going to offer 35" seat pitch in economy class with free baggage and free meal and free wifi as LCC, although they claim their ticket price will be 10-20% less than legacy full service carriers

Wait did they actually say they were gonna have 35'' Y seats? Are you sure its not like Y+ or something?

Yes. 35 inch economy. Better than even Asiana and comparable to Y+ of some other airlines.

c933103 wrote:

janders wrote:

tkoenig95 wrote:

Would this be a good jab at TPAC route for AUS?

As story indicates they are going for largely existing big Korea routes - LA, SF, Hawaii, YVR, Australia, not some long thin random route to Austin.

It is also flying to place like Berlin, Cairns, Munich that doesn't have much service to Korea now, and it seems like it's also going to use the San Jose airport instead when flying to the bay area.

BN747 wrote:

Hmmmm...I missed something, who's Taiwan's 3rd coming online?

BN747

LAX772LR wrote:

tkoenig95 wrote:

but small routes as such can be profitable if the cards are played correctly.

Would you mind citing some examples of such a route between east Asia and an FAA medium-hub US route?

Because from the looks of it: no, there's not much information to corroborate your claim at all....

LAXintl wrote:

BN747 wrote:

Hmmmm...I missed something, who's Taiwan's 3rd coming online?

BN747

Starlux. Founded by former EVA Air CEO

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tkoenig95 wrote:

LAX772LR wrote:

tkoenig95 wrote:

but small routes as such can be profitable if the cards are played correctly.

Would you mind citing some examples of such a route between east Asia and an FAA medium-hub US route?

None as of yet (as you already know) but the 787 is made to connect mid-sized markets.

AirbusA322 wrote:

Cairns might work. Jetstar have the 787 Japan shuttles daily between Tokyo and Osaka.

Mabye Gold Coast. Similar sort of crowd Jetstar 787 to Japan, Scoot 787 to Singapore.

Otherwise the major market with no Korean flights for some strange reason....Melbourne.

Pudelhund wrote:

JAAlbert wrote:

UPlog wrote:

Livery reminds me of Brussels Airlines.

Always exciting to see a new carrier, especially when it's buying brand spanking state-of-the art planes. But does the tail graphic mean something? Perhaps if I knew what "Premia" meant, I might have a better idea. Is Premia a Korean term or something based on a Korean word?

It sounds like a made-up word based on the word "premium", reflecting that this is supposed to be a premium economy (not "Premium Economy", but premium economy experience, like jetBlue, or perhaps KE/JL/SQ economy) airline and not like a stripped-down, budget airline with sardine seating.

Trystar wrote:

Pudelhund wrote:

JAAlbert wrote:

Always exciting to see a new carrier, especially when it's buying brand spanking state-of-the art planes. But does the tail graphic mean something? Perhaps if I knew what "Premia" meant, I might have a better idea. Is Premia a Korean term or something based on a Korean word?

It sounds like a made-up word based on the word "premium", reflecting that this is supposed to be a premium economy (not "Premium Economy", but premium economy experience, like jetBlue, or perhaps KE/JL/SQ economy) airline and not like a stripped-down, budget airline with sardine seating.

'Premia' is the plural of premium, although it's a rarely used word and is improper English when used outside of financial context (such as a modifying noun like the example above and in the context I suspect the company are using it). Its sounds somewhat similar to 'premier' when spoken.