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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:05 am

Happy February to everyone and thank TK787 as always for the new thread.
TK787 wrote:
Hello there, this is first time I see the new color scheme of the TK's new interiors for 787/350 fleet.
From kokpitaero.com:
http://www.kokpit.aero/thy-787-350-yeni-kabinh
I really like the dark gray/gold for the J and red/gray for Y cabin.
Two comments:
-I still think the photos in the article are too dark, I imagine in real life the materials are much brighter. (more like the very top photo)
-In J photos, they show the "Bladerunner 2049" screen grab. It was unfortunate to watch in it again on at TK flight with all the nude women figures blurred/censured. Is this a TK decision, or any of you seen this on an other airline "not blurred"? Thank you.


I like the colors of the cabin and I too agree they picture a bit darker than they actually are.

The blurring is out of control on the and ME3 other airlines are a bit more "understanding" I flew LH to MIA and the movie I saw (don't remember which one) wasn't censored as much, some nudity etc was not censored.

Guys I have a favor to ask my father who also is a aviation enthusiast he holds a PPL etc, is arguing with me that the new airport will not have the take off landing capacity as IST, and I can swear I read somewhere that from day one new airport will have 10% more slots than IST. If anyone can point at a link etc Mr. Mafaky especially you I would appreciate it.
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:16 am

Blerg wrote:
Atlastjet increases IST-IKA to 12 weekly.

KK1186 IST1530 – 1900IKA 321 x45
KK1184 IST2345 – 0315+1IKA 321 D

KK1185 IKA0600 – 0855IST 321 D
KK1187 IKA2000 – 2245IST 321 x45

Has KK become an exclusive point to point carrier or are they planning on offering connections? I see these flights connect nicely from their BEG flights... which are also increased this summer from 4 to 7 weekly.


I think they are connecting carrier, you can book BEG to IKA via their website I think
Are Iranians still coming massively to BEG?
 
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:17 am

Rom1 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Atlastjet increases IST-IKA to 12 weekly.

KK1186 IST1530 – 1900IKA 321 x45
KK1184 IST2345 – 0315+1IKA 321 D

KK1185 IKA0600 – 0855IST 321 D
KK1187 IKA2000 – 2245IST 321 x45

Has KK become an exclusive point to point carrier or are they planning on offering connections? I see these flights connect nicely from their BEG flights... which are also increased this summer from 4 to 7 weekly.


I think they are connecting carrier, you can book BEG to IKA via their website I think
Are Iranians still coming massively to BEG?


It all stopped after visas were re-introduced. Most of them just used Serbia as a getaway to flee into EU.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:25 am

TK787 wrote:
Hello there, this is first time I see the new color scheme of the TK's new interiors for 787/350 fleet.
From kokpitaero.com:
http://www.kokpit.aero/thy-787-350-yeni-kabinh
I really like the dark gray/gold for the J and red/gray for Y cabin.
Two comments:
-I still think the photos in the article are too dark, I imagine in real life the materials are much brighter. (more like the very top photo)
-In J photos, they show the "Bladerunner 2049" screen grab. It was unfortunate to watch in it again on at TK flight with all the nude women figures blurred/censured. Is this a TK decision, or any of you seen this on an other airline "not blurred"? Thank you.

Will A359 have the unified economy seats with B789? If yes, that's terrible as 3-3-3 on 787 features much narrower seats than A350 can handle.
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:43 pm

A321Lufthansa wrote:
Will A359 have the unified economy seats with B789? If yes, that's terrible as 3-3-3 on 787 features much narrower seats than A350 can handle.

-AFAIK, 359 cabin is only 12cm wider than the 789. I doubt that TK will get different seats for these two different jets.
-On another note, TK "Ridley Scott: Journey" 30 second commercial is being shown during the CBS morning News Show nationally in the US since the Super Bowl.
 
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:13 pm

TK787 wrote:
A321Lufthansa wrote:
Will A359 have the unified economy seats with B789? If yes, that's terrible as 3-3-3 on 787 features much narrower seats than A350 can handle.

-AFAIK, 359 cabin is only 12cm wider than the 789. I doubt that TK will get different seats for these two different jets.
-On another note, TK "Ridley Scott: Journey" 30 second commercial is being shown during the CBS morning News Show nationally in the US since the Super Bowl.

Well, Singapore Airlines’ A350s as the first Qatar’s feature 18” seats which are much more comfortable.
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:27 pm

Coma993 wrote:
Rom1 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Atlastjet increases IST-IKA to 12 weekly.

KK1186 IST1530 – 1900IKA 321 x45
KK1184 IST2345 – 0315+1IKA 321 D

KK1185 IKA0600 – 0855IST 321 D
KK1187 IKA2000 – 2245IST 321 x45

Has KK become an exclusive point to point carrier or are they planning on offering connections? I see these flights connect nicely from their BEG flights... which are also increased this summer from 4 to 7 weekly.


I think they are connecting carrier, you can book BEG to IKA via their website I think
Are Iranians still coming massively to BEG?


It all stopped after visas were re-introduced. Most of them just used Serbia as a getaway to flee into EU.


Serbia could not be their gateway more than Turkey since the country isn't in the EU or in the Schengen Zone. Most people flying on these flights were tourists while around 20% were illegal immigrants. Serbia was forced by the EU to reintroduce visas.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:55 pm

gokmengs wrote:

Guys I have a favor to ask my father who also is a aviation enthusiast he holds a PPL etc, is arguing with me that the new airport will not have the take off landing capacity as IST, and I can swear I read somewhere that from day one new airport will have 10% more slots than IST. If anyone can point at a link etc Mr. Mafaky especially you I would appreciate it.


In theory ISL should have more capacity than IST because its two runway allows fully parallel operations. But I can not tell anything about this because of degree of misinformation. If you follow one side of media everything is perfect, on time, wonders of world other side claims we will be dead next day. So, there no way to confirm any specific data about this project. But I can tell there are rumors; grand opening will be postponed to April.
 
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:01 pm

TK787 wrote:
A321Lufthansa wrote:
Will A359 have the unified economy seats with B789? If yes, that's terrible as 3-3-3 on 787 features much narrower seats than A350 can handle.

-AFAIK, 359 cabin is only 12cm wider than the 789. I doubt that TK will get different seats for these two different jets.
-On another note, TK "Ridley Scott: Journey" 30 second commercial is being shown during the CBS morning News Show nationally in the US since the Super Bowl.


12 cm makes 1.3 cm more room per seat. I dont think TK will spend all that 12 cm to aisles, seats will get the difference. My main concern is, how uncomfortable will be 787 compared vs 330 vs 777.
 
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Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:47 pm

Guys I have a favor to ask my father who also is a aviation enthusiast he holds a PPL etc, is arguing with me that the new airport will not have the take off landing capacity as IST, and I can swear I read somewhere that from day one new airport will have 10% more slots than IST. If anyone can point at a link etc Mr. Mafaky especially you I would appreciate it.


What you have heard/read is very correct. The New Airport will have higher landing/take off capacity than the Ataturk Airport as both of the currently operational two runways have parallel/independent landing/take off capability (IMC Operation). Besides it will be much less prone to adverse southern side winds (as compared to Ataturk's 05/23 rwy, which suffers around 60-80 days, annually...).
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 12:24 pm

MeCe wrote:
My main concern is, how uncomfortable will be 787 compared vs 330 vs 777.

That is going to be very interesting MeCe; both 789 and 77W will have 3-3-3 Y class; where 789 cabin width is 47cm narrower :(
 
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Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:28 pm

TK787 wrote:
MeCe wrote:
My main concern is, how uncomfortable will be 787 compared vs 330 vs 777.

That is going to be very interesting MeCe; both 789 and 77W will have 3-3-3 Y class; where 789 cabin width is 47cm narrower :(

Pls. cross your fingers that TK will not start converting their 77W's economy cabin to 3-4-3 configuration. It can be done, it has< been done (one latest example is the 5-star airline Qatar AW!) :(
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Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:44 am

Another Lego themed safety video from TK.

https://youtu.be/MqbFPn_FwaE

The video is related to the LEGO Movie 2, which is in theaters worldwide this month.
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Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:12 pm

LAXintl wrote:
Another Lego themed safety video from TK.

https://youtu.be/MqbFPn_FwaE

The video is related to the LEGO Movie 2, which is in theaters worldwide this month.

Pretty awesome, "third video" ??? Hey, why not.
 
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Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:55 pm

It appears that Turkish has recently updated the logo, from blue to black and introduced more contemporary font. Will that be reflected on the livery as well?

https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us/p ... index.html
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:23 am

TK787 wrote:
MeCe wrote:
My main concern is, how uncomfortable will be 787 compared vs 330 vs 777.

That is going to be very interesting MeCe; both 789 and 77W will have 3-3-3 Y class; where 789 cabin width is 47cm narrower :(


Yes, it will be big hit. I am sure IAD and ATL pax will miss 330.

mafaky wrote:
TK787 wrote:
MeCe wrote:
My main concern is, how uncomfortable will be 787 compared vs 330 vs 777.

That is going to be very interesting MeCe; both 789 and 77W will have 3-3-3 Y class; where 789 cabin width is 47cm narrower :(

Pls. cross your fingers that TK will not start converting their 77W's economy cabin to 3-4-3 configuration. It can be done, it has< been done (one latest example is the 5-star airline Qatar AW!) :(


I dont see anything like this near future but who knows ? Having more seats is good thing, but you have to fill them. TK is still weak in USA they will focus increase destinations and frequency. Capacity is not concern.
 
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:20 am

Putnik wrote:
It appears that Turkish has recently updated the logo, from blue to black and introduced more contemporary font. Will that be reflected on the livery as well?

https://www.turkishairlines.com/en-us/p ... index.html


I would LOVE to see an all-black TK livery. Would look veeery cool, even as a one-off special.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:14 pm

Airlineroute tweeted that TK will start flying the 787-9 to JFK, JNB, DUR, MPT in March 2020.

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 1825993728
 
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:19 pm

dozerman wrote:
Airlineroute tweeted that TK will start flying the 787-9 to JFK, JNB, DUR, MPT in March 2020.

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 1825993728

Wow, great. Thanks for the news. I guess TK wants to use the brand new 789 with its new business class product on its flagship route, probably replacing the A330 flight. I was expecting 359 but it might still be the case when those arrive later next year. Actually, first A359 arrives in March2020, let's see where will it fly first.
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:24 am

I dont see anything like this near future but who knows ? Having more seats is good thing, but you have to fill them. TK is still weak in USA they will focus increase destinations and frequency. Capacity is not concern.


Your argument for the "capacity" may be valid for the USA market but TK is flying those 77Ws to FarEast / SouthEast Asia and Near East (specificly to India) too. I wonder where they will end up with when the three ex-Kenyan 77Ws with larger economy cabins, will be returned to the lessor in 2 years' time. I'm pretty sure they will re-configure a few 77Ws in their own fleet and axe the Business cabin in those frames to downsize to 28 seats.
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:37 am

It might have been discussed before, but isn't it a great challenge to introduce two different longhaul aircraft types in a relatively short span of time?
Talking about crew training, ground procedures, technical aspects, route and network planning, etc.
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:12 pm

Planning to book a flight for the 26 feb. - 5 march from Ams. I expect to arrive at IST and fly out from ISL. Hopefully everything goes okay.
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:17 pm

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Planning to book a flight for the 26 feb. - 5 march from Ams. I expect to arrive at IST and fly out from ISL. Hopefully everything goes okay.

Good Luck :)
I have a total of 16 ticketed legs with TK coming up, starting mid March and who knows where I will flying in/out of :rotfl:
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:45 pm

Does anyone know how many runways are fully operational at ISL?
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:42 pm

Blerg wrote:
Does anyone know how many runways are fully operational at ISL?

AFAIK, two runways. Third runway could be at least another year away, which will be to the East of the Terminal, closer to Domestic gates.
Two operational runways have adjacent taxiways, that could be used as runways in case the runways themselves need repairs and such. But still, two operational runways as of now.
Please correct me if needed. Thanks.
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:26 pm

AFAIK, two runways. Third runway could be at least another year away, which will be to the East of the Terminal, closer to Domestic gates.
Two operational runways have adjacent taxiways, that could be used as runways in case the runways themselves need repairs and such. But still, two operational runways as of now.


Presently there are two "runway sets" that is operational and certifies, also equipped with all up-to-date instrumentation. The most west runway set is 34/16/R/L, which comprises of the main runway 3.750*60 mt. and parallel to it (in the middle) a secondary/emergency/backup/reserve parallel runway, 3.750*45 mt. The taxiway is on the eastern side of the set and is also 45 mt. wide. The second runway 17/35/R/L set is the nearer one to the terminal (looking its western side..) which is of similar construction but is 4.100 mt. in length and has two taxiways. The distance between the center lines of the two main runways is more than ICAO envisaged 1.300 mt. so these two runways can carry out fully independent ops. The third runway set is being constructed looking to the eastern side of the terminal, some 2.400 mt. to the east of the second runway set. This will be similar to the second runway set's infrastructure but only 3.750 mt. for the length. Expect it to be completed, instrumented and certified (i.e will be fully operational) not earlier by mid 2020, if not a few months later.
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:43 pm

TK787 wrote:
dozerman wrote:
Airlineroute tweeted that TK will start flying the 787-9 to JFK, JNB, DUR, MPT in March 2020.

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 1825993728

Wow, great. Thanks for the news. I guess TK wants to use the brand new 789 with its new business class product on its flagship route, probably replacing the A330 flight. I was expecting 359 but it might still be the case when those arrive later next year. Actually, first A359 arrives in March2020, let's see where will it fly first.

Wouldn’t that be a downgauge for a route that has high LF?
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:41 pm

gokmengs wrote:
Wouldn’t that be a downgauge for a route that has high LF?

I guess you mean from A333 to B789. Actually 789 will have 2 more J and 6 more Y seats than the A333, according to my information.
789 is a newer generation equipment and TK's profit margins will increase with added efficiencies.
Plus; J will have 1-2-1 seating and for some this might be an upgrade. I will wait till I experience it myself.
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:07 am

TK787 wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
Wouldn’t that be a downgauge for a route that has high LF?

I guess you mean from A333 to B789. Actually 789 will have 2 more J and 6 more Y seats than the A333, according to my information.
789 is a newer generation equipment and TK's profit margins will increase with added efficiencies.
Plus; J will have 1-2-1 seating and for some this might be an upgrade. I will wait till I experience it myself.

I actually meant from the 777, I was pretty sure 789 would be equal or more seats compared to 333. The summer season its hard to find seats on JFK flights. I can’t wait to try the 789 new J product as well what do you say we book the inaugural:)
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:53 am

gokmengs wrote:
TK787 wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
Wouldn’t that be a downgauge for a route that has high LF?

I guess you mean from A333 to B789. Actually 789 will have 2 more J and 6 more Y seats than the A333, according to my information.
789 is a newer generation equipment and TK's profit margins will increase with added efficiencies.
Plus; J will have 1-2-1 seating and for some this might be an upgrade. I will wait till I experience it myself.

I actually meant from the 777, I was pretty sure 789 would be equal or more seats compared to 333. The summer season its hard to find seats on JFK flights. I can’t wait to try the 789 new J product as well what do you say we book the inaugural:)


A quick mock booking this summer shows 2x77W and 1x333 daily for IST-JFK. The 333 flight is TK3/4, which usually continues year round. I would say it is safe to assume TK3/4 will be the flight with 789, so no downgauge on the route. Plus, IST-EWR might start by then.
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:41 am

gokmengs wrote:
what do you say we book the inaugural:)

I am already booked on the first USA-Turkey TK 789 flight. TK8 IAD-IST :bouncy:
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:35 pm

TK787 wrote:
gokmengs wrote:
what do you say we book the inaugural:)

I am already booked on the first USA-Turkey TK 789 flight. TK8 IAD-IST :bouncy:


Please do not forget to make a Trip Report and upload it on youtube! :D
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:31 pm

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A quick mock booking this summer shows 2x77W and 1x333 daily for IST-JFK. The 333 flight is TK3/4, which usually continues year round. I would say it is safe to assume TK3/4 will be the flight with 789, so no downgauge on the route. Plus, IST-EWR might start by then.

-Exactly. With 789s and 359s coming on line, more and more A333s will be freed up and will be used on routes like the future EWR flight.
-Also, yes I will try to do a IAD-IST TK 789 trip report. Hopefully there will be many trip reports on the 789 by then flying TK's other routes.
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:34 pm

Anybody know what routes the 787 is gonna operate? The youtuber Josh Cahill is asking. He just posted a new TK review and is interested in trying the dreamliner.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:09 pm

Hi all
As far as I know 3 frames is needed for a 1+1 late night (asia or central America) +1 daylight deparykture (us mainly)
First 3 789 will be deployed for bog/pty (late night 4 and 3 fre) and atl(5) mia (2)
Second 3 frames daily bali + iad
So it is possible to use 3rd bunches of 789s to be delivered in 2020 for jfk and jnb (with the extention to durban and map)

My bet on later frames is : nrt, manila and tapie, so a slight downguage but increasing load factor to 85-90s, later us cities like iah
My bet on 359 is gru/eze so increasing lf to 85-90s, 77w was always too big for gru/eze but it was a must after retiremwnt od 340s
Any comment?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:09 pm

OK, I just got off the phone with TK.
-As expected the person on the phone has limited information about the new 1-2-1 layout on the new TK 789s.
She didn't know that they were staggered at the window. According to her all the single seats on Business Class are window seats. Well, they are...kind of.
It is just my guess that they will start with 1A seat right next to the window, and at 2A the seat will be closer to the aisle. Any other guesses from you guys??
-I was wrong on the Y layout. Just to confirm TK 789s will have 30 J and 270 Y seats.
Row 9-24, 3-3-3 seating = 144 seats
Row 25 and 26 have 3-x-3 seating = 12 seats
Row 27-38, 3-3-3 seating = 108 seats
Row 39 and 40 x-3-x =6 seats
For a total of 270 seats
And if I remember it correctly, Rows 11 and 24 are extra leg room seats.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:11 pm

mafaky wrote:
I dont see anything like this near future but who knows ? Having more seats is good thing, but you have to fill them. TK is still weak in USA they will focus increase destinations and frequency. Capacity is not concern.


Your argument for the "capacity" may be valid for the USA market but TK is flying those 77Ws to FarEast / SouthEast Asia and Near East (specificly to India) too. I wonder where they will end up with when the three ex-Kenyan 77Ws with larger economy cabins, will be returned to the lessor in 2 years' time. I'm pretty sure they will re-configure a few 77Ws in their own fleet and axe the Business cabin in those frames to downsize to 28 seats.


In my opinion TK should initiate a regional wb fleet. There are many destinations dedicated to wide bodies using 4 hrs flatbed seat and huge galleys is waste in my opinion. As you stated at some point they have to they have to do some fleet mods

There are so many rumors going on difficult to trace :) On another one, east coast flights will be completely 787 with more frequency added if capacity needed. Of course that can be done later if they like performance of 787. That frees some 777 and 330s for the mods we mentioned.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:05 am

Hi MeCe
In my opinion there is a regional wb fleet. Ex Sky-Mark 333 (Loa-log) are used for regional flights (305 seaters) leased 332s are used for regional flights as well (mainly ex tam birds, 279 seaters)
For the own fleet, i do not see it feasible because they are utilized for short/medium flights at their spare time (arrival at early morning, netxt er mission at midnight, so they have regioanl rotation in between)
But after arrival of 789 and 359, i think owned 5 332s can take mission of 343 (high density for hadj flights)
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:08 am

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First 3 789 will be deployed for bog/pty (late night 4 and 3 fre) and atl(5) mia (2)
Second 3 frames daily bali + iad


The first aircraft goes to Denpasar-Bali (3 weekly in July), next comes IAD in August, when also Bali goes daily and so 3 aircraft will be online.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:16 am

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Hi MeCe
In my opinion there is a regional wb fleet. Ex Sky-Mark 333 (Loa-log) are used for regional flights (305 seaters) leased 332s are used for regional flights as well (mainly ex tam birds, 279 seaters)
For the own fleet, i do not see it feasible because they are utilized for short/medium flights at their spare time (arrival at early morning, netxt er mission at midnight, so they have regioanl rotation in between)
But after arrival of 789 and 359, i think owned 5 332s can take mission of 343 (high density for hadj flights)

I don't think that the freshly reconfigured 332s with the seats that are currently TK's top product will take the mission of 343s. IMO ex-TAM 332s are more likely for this as their seats were designed specially for short-haul so they can remove the business class and get around 7 rows more that means already the same capacity as 343s had.
P.S. Also the ex-Jet Airways 332s are no more leased and as a result fully owned by TK. Is there possibility of their re-configuration the same way as TC-JNA - JNE?
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:44 am

TK787 wrote:
OK, I just got off the phone with TK.
-As expected the person on the phone has limited information about the new 1-2-1 layout on the new TK 789s.
She didn't know that they were staggered at the window. According to her all the single seats on Business Class are window seats.

no surprised at all! you probably know much much more than the great majority of the people working at the call centers.
I've the feeling that the quality is steadily going down the hill (especially for Elite/ElitePlus customers...).
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:10 pm

stylo777 wrote:
no surprised at all! you probably know much much more than the great majority of the people working at the call centers.
I've the feeling that the quality is steadily going down the hill (especially for Elite/ElitePlus customers...).

Actually, she did pretty good. Her communications skills were great. She listened. She was courteous.
I wonder if any of you had this problem. Sometimes I buy tickets months in advance and sometimes the flight times change. Few months ago, I was in Dubai and tried to check-in the day before flight, I couldn't. I had to call the TK office and found out that the flight times changed 5-10 minutes and I had to confirm that "It is OK". Apparently same thing happened on my IAD-IST return flight, it moved back 10 minutes. So I had to make a decision to Change, Cancel or to Confirm it. They told me that they sent me an email about this issue Jan4th. I never got that. So, the issue sits there unnoticed, till by chance I look at my future reservations online. Just like two months ago in DXB, I could not "Confirm" it online. An error message comes up. If I were TK, I would change the software that, if the pax doesn't "Confirm" a time change in couple of days, I would send them another note or try to notify them accordingly. Wouldn't you agree?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:26 pm

yes, happened to me as well and even got rejected for online check-in. it's annoying and I totally agree that the software in the background must be adapted.

Some time ago there was a discussion of TK switching their overall reservation and inventory system to the industry standard at Amadeus. Is this still a running project?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:33 pm

Turkish Airlines will start Marrakech on 15th April according to routesonline:

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t=istanbul
TK619 IST1130 – 1430RAK 73H x24
TK620 RAK1525 – 2205IST 73H x24
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:37 pm

TK787 wrote:
stylo777 wrote:
no surprised at all! you probably know much much more than the great majority of the people working at the call centers.
I've the feeling that the quality is steadily going down the hill (especially for Elite/ElitePlus customers...).

Actually, she did pretty good. Her communications skills were great. She listened. She was courteous.
I wonder if any of you had this problem. Sometimes I buy tickets months in advance and sometimes the flight times change. Few months ago, I was in Dubai and tried to check-in the day before flight, I couldn't. I had to call the TK office and found out that the flight times changed 5-10 minutes and I had to confirm that "It is OK". Apparently same thing happened on my IAD-IST return flight, it moved back 10 minutes. So I had to make a decision to Change, Cancel or to Confirm it. They told me that they sent me an email about this issue Jan4th. I never got that. So, the issue sits there unnoticed, till by chance I look at my future reservations online. Just like two months ago in DXB, I could not "Confirm" it online. An error message comes up. If I were TK, I would change the software that, if the pax doesn't "Confirm" a time change in couple of days, I would send them another note or try to notify them accordingly. Wouldn't you agree?


I had exactly the same issue on my AMS-IST-EZE flights over the Christmas holiday period. Up to December I've received multiple minor schedule updates. What extra complicated the manner is that I bought my ticket via an OTA; TK Call Center and the OTA pointed fingers to each other who should confirm / accept the minor flight schedule changes. As a result my reservation was in 'waiting' mode and I couldn't do anything via Manage my Booking. Equally, both the website and app never showed a confirm option / button (to my frustration). On top of that, TK reshuffled my seat reservations so I lost all window seats on my return flights.I was also never able to check-in online, being caught in a loop to upload my passport details over and over again. As great as the flights were, the IT issues seemed strange for such a strong carrier.
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:59 pm

My problem with the TK website is that I'm not able to do online bookings because the option to pay with Ideal, does not work for some reason. In the Netherlands, we mainly use Ideal for online payments, no creditcards. So people like me are very dependant of this method. On the TK app settings, you have the option to select your desired pay method and Ideal is listed on it, so I selected it. But on the website, when I want to book a ticket, I get an error saying that the method isn't available. So there is no way for me to book that ticket. I think I spoke to 6 different customer service agents but none of them knew what I was talking about or what to do, which is strange. To me this seems like a major technical issue that can lead to TK losing a lot of customers, especially from my country. So its in their best interest to try to solve this issue. Even Pegasus has the Ideal method and it works perfectly on their system, never had an issue. So now, Im only able to book TK flights through 3rd party websites which do have the Ideal method, which is not the best thing to do.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:54 pm

HeyTK wrote:
My problem with the TK website is that I'm not able to do online bookings because the option to pay with Ideal, does not work for some reason. In the Netherlands, we mainly use Ideal for online payments, no creditcards. So people like me are very dependant of this method. On the TK app settings, you have the option to select your desired pay method and Ideal is listed on it, so I selected it. But on the website, when I want to book a ticket, I get an error saying that the method isn't available. So there is no way for me to book that ticket. I think I spoke to 6 different customer service agents but none of them knew what I was talking about or what to do, which is strange. To me this seems like a major technical issue that can lead to TK losing a lot of customers, especially from my country. So its in their best interest to try to solve this issue. Even Pegasus has the Ideal method and it works perfectly on their system, never had an issue. So now, Im only able to book TK flights through 3rd party websites which do have the Ideal method, which is not the best thing to do.

Same here. I wanted to book a business ticket to HKG with a long layover in IST but couldn't pay with ideal. So i chose to switch airline instead.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:24 pm

What is the news in Istanbul - is it still all systems go for the change over to ISL in just over two weeks?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:15 am

VanBosch wrote:
What is the news in Istanbul - is it still all systems go for the change over to ISL in just over two weeks?

Who knows?? This week new rumors say total move to be postponed till the first week of April.
And no new additional flights out of ISL.
So, 3 functioning airports in Istanbul at the moment.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:54 pm

Well, latest rumors this morning say either April 2nd or April 7th.
If that is the case, I will be flying from Ataturk yet another few times. I love it.

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