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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:22 pm

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Qantas says India if forecasted to be Asia's second largest market from/to Australia by 2027

https://blueswandaily.com/qantas-india- ... a-by-2027/

Can we see QF returning to India at some point?


Maybe another PER hub operation option from PER-India? QF ops with A330s to BOM and DEL, possibly JQ to other markets like MAA, CCU, HYD, BLR?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:05 pm

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Qantas says it is unable to attend parliamentary enquiry regarding high costs of regional services

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/busine ... b6cab7678a


Behind paywall... could you give the jist of why they can't attend? Seems pretty weak to not even show. Then again, given the political circus in Canberra... hmmm.


Here is some more of the article, it does specifically say why they aren't attending though if this were about another issue, lets say how much airport charges are they would be there at a drop of a pin. Its not a good look for QF considering how vocal they have been about airport charges

Virgin Australia and charter operator Alliance are to face a public grilling as MPs seek answers on why prices on regional routes are often more expensive than international airfares. But, for the second time, Qantas says it is unable to attend the hearing.
The inquiry was launched by the Senate committee for rural and regional affairs and transport in November 2017, with public hearings held last year in several regional centres. Until now, no airlines have appeared before the committee.
Nationals senator Barry O’Sullivan, who instigated the inquiry, said Friday’s hearing in Brisbane would focus on pricing schedules for air routes and why there were differences in the ­pricing system when services ­appeared almost identical.
Commercial organisations could be compelled to attend public hearings but Senator O’Sullivan said “first we try to exhaust diplomacy”.
“They do have an obligation (to appear). It’s a very tortured path if an organisation says it doesn’t want to appear or is not co-operating,” he said.
“There hasn’t been an inkling of that in this circumstance. The last time and this time, Qantas has had genuine reasons.”
A Qantas spokesman said the airline would appear before the hearing at another date.


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/busine ... b6cab7678a


Thanks! Pretty arrogant of Qantas management to not event front up. "Genuine reasons" yet unspecified. I'd love to know what they are :roll:
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:46 pm

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I wasn't comparing, but was saying that SYD/BNE/MEL are hubs for QF, which the original comment seemed to downplay.


To be honest, I wouldn’t personally call MEL or BNE long-haul hubs for QF anyway. They pick up some local regional connections and passengers flying through from the west but services from both cities are heavily focused on O&D compared with SYD which has a significantly larger network of unique destinations.

But that’s a different discussion altogether.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:49 pm

A few points...
A) the main transpacific route to north america for the last 70 years was SFO, not LAX.
B) CZ & MU BNE cutbacks in MAR are normal. They have a habit of sending press releases announcing more flights, then quietly reduce in the off season.
C) Surprised AY applying for JQ codeshare and not QF to Japan- I thought there were some regulatory issues on AU-JPN codesharing.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:49 pm

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A few points...
A) the main transpacific route to north america for the last 70 years was SFO, not LAX.
B) CZ & MU BNE cutbacks in MAR are normal. They have a habit of sending press releases announcing more flights, then quietly reduce in the off season.
C) Surprised AY applying for JQ codeshare and not QF to Japan- I thought there were some regulatory issues on AU-JPN codesharing.


A) yes, but LAX became the #1 O&D city by far
B) MU cuts way beyond March. But none of Chinese carriers operate daily year round. After CA exits only about 13 flights per week to China on 3 airlines. Just didn’t realise it was that low. We will probably see more reductions at SYD once subsidies run out.
C) That is strange. So no code shares into SYD BNE or MEL then
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:52 pm

SeaEagle8 wrote:
eta unknown wrote:
A few points...
A) the main transpacific route to north america for the last 70 years was SFO, not LAX.
B) CZ & MU BNE cutbacks in MAR are normal. They have a habit of sending press releases announcing more flights, then quietly reduce in the off season.
C) Surprised AY applying for JQ codeshare and not QF to Japan- I thought there were some regulatory issues on AU-JPN codesharing.


A) yes, but LAX became the #1 O&D city by far
B) MU cuts way beyond March. But none of Chinese carriers operate daily year round. After CA exits only about 13 flights per week to China on 3 airlines. Just didn’t realise it was that low. We will probably see more reductions at SYD once subsidies run out.
C) That is strange. So no code shares into SYD BNE or MEL then


No US airline even had direct service between Australia to SFO until 1994, before which you could connect via HNL or LAX, but no direct flights.

QF pulled out of SFO in 1985, returned in 1996, but withdrew again in 2011. Obviously it's back on now.

Not exactly the main route.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:25 pm

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In addition to yesterday's announcement Qantas has applied to the IASC for AY to codeshare on JQ services to Japan

https://blueswandaily.com/jetstar-airwa ... -mar-2019/


Pretty much what I asked for. :)

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C) Surprised AY applying for JQ codeshare and not QF to Japan- I thought there were some regulatory issues on AU-JPN codesharing.


Perhaps because JQ only fly to CNS and OOL from Japan rather than the capitals?
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:13 pm

VA reports a 37% increase in first half underlying profit before tax of $112.3 million

https://www.reuters.com/article/virgin- ... SL3N2075E7
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:42 pm

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Qantas says India if forecasted to be Asia's second largest market from/to Australia by 2027

https://blueswandaily.com/qantas-india- ... a-by-2027/

Can we see QF returning to India at some point?


Ive always understood the main Indian market challenge is due to dispersed populations at both ends, and SQ et al have an advantage with their central(ish) hub to make transfers and passenger resorting a much easier task. The other challenge was yield, which old QF couldn't make work with its old CASK.

Will the 789 (or maybe 10) and new QF cost base allow QF to make it worth while, or will the Indian economy change to improve yields? Also what chance is there of QF working with a local partner somewhere (including possibly UL) to make its own mini-hub for distribution into the market? I feel that Indian regulations may limit this both through restricting what QF can do, and not giving any local partner any incentive to work with QF (or others of course).
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:25 am

VA’s new BNE international lounge expected to open in May

https://www.ausbt.com.au/virgin-austral ... n-may-2019
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:57 am

747m8te wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas says India if forecasted to be Asia's second largest market from/to Australia by 2027

https://blueswandaily.com/qantas-india- ... a-by-2027/

Can we see QF returning to India at some point?


Maybe another PER hub operation option from PER-India? QF ops with A330s to BOM and DEL, possibly JQ to other markets like MAA, CCU, HYD, BLR?

Doubt it. A332s and 787s can comfortably make India non-stop from MEL or SYD and that is where the main Indian diaspora is located.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:38 am

tullamarine wrote:
747m8te wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Qantas says India if forecasted to be Asia's second largest market from/to Australia by 2027

https://blueswandaily.com/qantas-india- ... a-by-2027/

Can we see QF returning to India at some point?


Maybe another PER hub operation option from PER-India? QF ops with A330s to BOM and DEL, possibly JQ to other markets like MAA, CCU, HYD, BLR?

Doubt it. A332s and 787s can comfortably make India non-stop from MEL or SYD and that is where the main Indian diaspora is located.


I agree that non stop is the way to go. There would be little competitive advantage for QF to offer yet another one stop solution to the majority of travellers. QF seem to follow a business model targeting higher yield pax which generally necessitates non stop services where available.

I think the Indian market will continue to mature over the next decade and QF will take advantage at an appropriate time. The fact that Air India have barely increased their presence since starting non stop to MEL/SYD is probably reflective of the current market situation.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:31 am

I think India has similar issues to China - the local airlines have far lower cost bases and are already familiar to the greater number of passengers.

Possibly an option for Jetstar once it gets its 321neos which will free up 788s from some of their shorter routes.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:52 am

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I think India has similar issues to China - the local airlines have far lower cost bases and are already familiar to the greater number of passengers.

Possibly an option for Jetstar once it gets its 321neos which will free up 788s from some of their shorter routes.


The other issue is that, whilst the Indian middle class is growing, what constitutes a middle class salary in India is quite low, (under USD15K). This means that a return airfare to AU of around USD600 per person remains prohibitively expensive for most Indians.
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:56 am

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I think India has similar issues to China - the local airlines have far lower cost bases and are already familiar to the greater number of passengers.

Possibly an option for Jetstar once it gets its 321neos which will free up 788s from some of their shorter routes.


Which place exactly in Australia would you consider to have India in reach with A321neos? Because I can't think of any.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:30 am

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moa999 wrote:
I think India has similar issues to China - the local airlines have far lower cost bases and are already familiar to the greater number of passengers.

Possibly an option for Jetstar once it gets its 321neos which will free up 788s from some of their shorter routes.


Which place exactly in Australia would you consider to have India in reach with A321neos? Because I can't think of any.


Theoretically?
Darwin and Perth are in reach of Chennai and Colombo (both popular leisure destinations).
Perth could probably do Bangalore on an A321neo.
On a LR, Hyderabad and Delhi are in range.

However, there’d be little incentive to transit in Perth for Sydney or Brisbane customers since it would likely be longer than other one stop options.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:45 am

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On a LR, Hyderabad and Delhi are in range.



PER-DEL is over 4,200nm. I strongly doubt even the LR can do it with any acceptable payload in any wind. BOM is also over 3,900. MAA and BLR can work technically, but just don't make any sense from PER.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:51 am

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On a LR, Hyderabad and Delhi are in range.



PER-DEL is over 4,200nm. I strongly doubt even the LR can do it with any acceptable payload in any wind. BOM is also over 3,900. MAA and BLR can work technically, but just don't make any sense from PER.


Not saying they make sense, just saying they're in range. Number I was working of was that the LR had a 4600nm range, which I was assuming with a commercially viable load.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:54 am

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moa999 wrote:
I think India has similar issues to China - the local airlines have far lower cost bases and are already familiar to the greater number of passengers.

Possibly an option for Jetstar once it gets its 321neos which will free up 788s from some of their shorter routes.


Which place exactly in Australia would you consider to have India in reach with A321neos? Because I can't think of any.


That’s not what was said.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:19 am

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No US airline even had direct service between Australia to SFO until 1994, before which you could connect via HNL or LAX, but no direct flights.
QF pulled out of SFO in 1985, returned in 1996, but withdrew again in 2011. Obviously it's back on now.
Not exactly the main route.


Please do not confuse direct with nonstop.
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:03 am

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No US airline even had direct service between Australia to SFO until 1994, before which you could connect via HNL or LAX, but no direct flights.

QF pulled out of SFO in 1985, returned in 1996, but withdrew again in 2011. Obviously it's back on now.

Not exactly the main route.

What are you on? PA [& QF & BCPA before them] had direct flights from SYD to SFO from 1949. Some time, I think in the late 1970s/early 1980s PA moved their flights origin to LAX [connecting in HNL with SFO service], QF was not given access to LAX until around 1985 after which they dropped SFO due to the much larger traffic and yields from LAX. Their return has been slow but measured.

As eta unknown says DO NOT confuse direct with nonstop!

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Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:44 am

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Which place exactly in Australia would you consider to have India in reach with A321neos? Because I can't think of any.


thats not what was said. The 321's will be coming online and replacing 787's on routes like DPS... thus freeing up 787's to fly further afield ie Possibly India.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:54 am

Interesting article came up about Lufthansa chasing passenger for damages.


Quote "Lufthansa has taken a passenger, who didn't show up for the last leg of his ticketed journey, to court in an apparent bid to clamp down on "hidden city" ticketing."
https://travel.nine.com.au/2019/02/13/1 ... ravel-hack


What is the policy of Australian airlines on this one or does anyone do this? Never done it but I understand if prices are a factor for someone travelling.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:08 am

Greetings Folks and Ryanair101.
In 1979 this old cover flew direct to Lax with PA on a B747sp.
Great flight no problems other than Immigration at Lax!
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:15 am

As previously reported QF will only operate SYD-YVR during Dec19/Jan 20

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... e-changes/
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:44 am

VA domestic ops shows strength but VA's international ops losses worsen.

https://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20190213/ ... 5fq863.pdf

Hopefully SYD-YVR will become year-round when they eventually transition from the 744s to ???
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:50 am

Malindo files 4 weekly KUL-DPS-ADL from 31 March, mix of 738 and 739

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 10304?s=21
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Malindo files 4 weekly KUL-DPS-ADL from 31 March, mix of 738 and 739

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 10304?s=21

I'm guessing it might be filed as such, but it'll probably be all 738.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:38 am

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qf789 wrote:
Malindo files 4 weekly KUL-DPS-ADL from 31 March, mix of 738 and 739

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 10304?s=21

I'm guessing it might be filed as such, but it'll probably be all 738.


Yeah will be 738. BNE and MEL both served with 738 year-round, so would be very surprised if ADL got the 739. Good that ADL got a new airline though, hopefully their DPS market grows for them. Malindo have got a decent Aus network now with PER, BNE, MEL and ADL.
 
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Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:42 am

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eta unknown wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Malindo files 4 weekly KUL-DPS-ADL from 31 March, mix of 738 and 739

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 10304?s=21

I'm guessing it might be filed as such, but it'll probably be all 738.


Yeah will be 738. BNE and MEL both served with 738 year-round, so would be very surprised if ADL got the 739. Good that ADL got a new airline though, hopefully their DPS market grows for them. Malindo have got a decent Aus network now with PER, BNE, MEL and ADL.


Routes Online is showing that flights arriving in ADL on Mondays will be the 739, with other days operated by the 738 - always good to get a new type :)
 
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Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:39 am

Looks like QF9 PER-LHR last night departure is going to break the 18hr mark
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Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:44 am

Qantas has pushed back A388 refurbishments, the first starting in July now. Premium economy pitch will be same as 789’s

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-pushes- ... ource=hero
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qf789 wrote:
Malindo files 4 weekly KUL-DPS-ADL from 31 March, mix of 738 and 739

https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 10304?s=21

I'm guessing it might be filed as such, but it'll probably be all 738.


Yeah will be 738. BNE and MEL both served with 738 year-round, so would be very surprised if ADL got the 739. Good that ADL got a new airline though, hopefully their DPS market grows for them. Malindo have got a decent Aus network now with PER, BNE, MEL and ADL.

Hopefully, but very much doubt their current Aussie network is sustainable and sooner than later I think they'll blink.

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Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:27 am

Qantas has unveiled Singapore first class lounge design using virtual reality

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... l-reality/
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Qantas has unveiled Singapore first class lounge design using virtual reality

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... l-reality/

That press release is like a game of buzzword bingo.
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Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:43 am

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qf789 wrote:
Qantas has unveiled Singapore first class lounge design using virtual reality

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... l-reality/

That press release is like a game of buzzword bingo.


Here is a couple more articles on it

https://www.airlineratings.com/news/vir ... re-lounge/

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-new-sin ... ource=hero
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Qantas has pushed back A388 refurbishments, the first starting in July now. Premium economy pitch will be same as 789’s

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-pushes- ... ource=hero


So does that mean that OQA won't be refurbished while in AUH?
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Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:35 am

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eta unknown wrote:
I'm guessing it might be filed as such, but it'll probably be all 738.


Yeah will be 738. BNE and MEL both served with 738 year-round, so would be very surprised if ADL got the 739. Good that ADL got a new airline though, hopefully their DPS market grows for them. Malindo have got a decent Aus network now with PER, BNE, MEL and ADL.

Hopefully, but very much doubt their current Aussie network is sustainable and sooner than later I think they'll blink.

Michael


Well they’ve already reduced BNE to 4 weekly year-round. That doesn’t sound like they’re doing that well there. And that’s with less competition on that route. Maybe they’ll have a crack at SYD but that’s highly competitive too.
ADL probably underserved though. PER had the most competition and those Batik flights are empty!
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Qantas has pushed back A388 refurbishments, the first starting in July now. Premium economy pitch will be same as 789’s

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-pushes- ... ource=hero


So does that mean that OQA won't be refurbished while in AUH?



The QF A380 refurbs are being done in Hamburg. Maintenance D checks are being done in Abu Dhabi.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:34 am

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Though SYD, MEL and BNE are all QF hubs, so I'm not sure that is the reason. IMO i think it is available aircraft, and YVR is on the list for possible new North American routes once more 789s join the fleet. QF have been learning what the seasonal demand on the 744s is like and might use that to build a schedule.


One hub to three spokes vs three hubs to one spoke, not comparable at all.

I have no issue with SYD-YVR, it makes perfect sense. But I don’t see QF doing MEL/BNE-YVR anytime soon, lots of other routes that they would open before getting to those.


I wasn't comparing, but was saying that SYD/BNE/MEL are hubs for QF, which the original comment seemed to downplay.

I agree, SYD is the one that will make most sense, BNE and MEL are unlikely (unless they do some sort of tag option which might not be optimal from a pax perspective but might be from an aircraft positioning one). And with smaller aircraft to fill it might make sense to have them spread out on the network (as compared to larger aircraft). But also agree, there are other fish to fry before that one.

Canada 3000 used to fly BNE/YVR direct(via HNL) in a 340 seat A330-200, twice a week & did very well on that route. (SEP11 led to Canada 3000 failure). Perhaps JQ should fly MEL/YVR & BNE/YVR nonstop in a B787. Doesn't have to be daily. Twice a week would work.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:02 am

JQ 787 seat density wont permit AU-Canada nonstop without a big payload hit.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:07 am

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Qantas has pushed back A388 refurbishments, the first starting in July now. Premium economy pitch will be same as 789’s

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-pushes- ... ource=hero


So does that mean that OQA won't be refurbished while in AUH?



The QF A380 refurbs are being done in Hamburg. Maintenance D checks are being done in Abu Dhabi.


Also of note, the first refurbished A388 will re-enter service in October, somehow getting all done by end of 2020 is cutting it fine

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-upgrade ... ource=hero
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:36 am

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JQ 787 seat density wont permit AU-Canada nonstop without a big payload hit.


Plus the lack of crew rest.

Realistically the Jetstar 787s aren't good for anywhere 10+ hours.

qf789 wrote:
AVB wrote:
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So does that mean that OQA won't be refurbished while in AUH?



The QF A380 refurbs are being done in Hamburg. Maintenance D checks are being done in Abu Dhabi.


Also of note, the first refurbished A388 will re-enter service in October, somehow getting all done by end of 2020 is cutting it fine

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-upgrade ... ource=hero


Interesting, thanks guys.
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:28 am

qf789 wrote:
AVB wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:

So does that mean that OQA won't be refurbished while in AUH?



The QF A380 refurbs are being done in Hamburg. Maintenance D checks are being done in Abu Dhabi.


Also of note, the first refurbished A388 will re-enter service in October, somehow getting all done by end of 2020 is cutting it fine

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-upgrade ... ource=hero


Starting the reconfig program in July and entering service in October? Something doesn't seem quite right. It should take ~3 weeks to do a reconfig assuming no other major work/checks are done.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:53 am

VHZNE wrote:
qf789 wrote:
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The QF A380 refurbs are being done in Hamburg. Maintenance D checks are being done in Abu Dhabi.


Also of note, the first refurbished A388 will re-enter service in October, somehow getting all done by end of 2020 is cutting it fine

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-upgrade ... ource=hero


Starting the reconfig program in July and entering service in October? Something doesn't seem quite right. It should take ~3 weeks to do a reconfig assuming no other major work/checks are done.


I find 3 weeks a bit hard to believe, I expected longer but not as long as what the time frame above suggests
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:08 am

qf789 wrote:
VHZNE wrote:
qf789 wrote:

Also of note, the first refurbished A388 will re-enter service in October, somehow getting all done by end of 2020 is cutting it fine

https://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-upgrade ... ource=hero


Starting the reconfig program in July and entering service in October? Something doesn't seem quite right. It should take ~3 weeks to do a reconfig assuming no other major work/checks are done.


I find 3 weeks a bit hard to believe, I expected longer but not as long as what the time frame above suggests


The first one is always the longest. All the unexpected snags show up and having a longer time frame for the first one will help prevent unexpected down time if it isn't finished in time on a more aggressive schedule. Subsequent aircraft should be much quicker.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:22 am

Tonight’s QR908/QR909 DOH-SYD-DOH service has been operated by a B77W in lieu of an A380. Or have QR reverted back to double daily B77W?

Flight QR909 from Sydney to Doha
https://fr24.com/QTR909/1f7eddbb

QF also operating a JQ SYD-HNL-SYD charter.

Flight QF6403 from Sydney to Honolulu
https://fr24.com/QFA6403/1f7ebfec

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:33 am

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Tonight’s QR908/QR909 DOH-SYD-DOH service has been operated by a B77W in lieu of an A380. Or have QR reverted back to double daily B77W?

Flight QR909 from Sydney to Doha
https://fr24.com/QTR909/1f7eddbb

QF also operating a JQ SYD-HNL-SYD charter.

Flight QF6403 from Sydney to Honolulu
https://fr24.com/QFA6403/1f7ebfec

EK413


Its seems to be a one off. I have also heard that QR service to PER, the 77W will replace the A388 for 6 weeks later in the year
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:38 am

Yesterday's PER-LHR clocked 18 hrs and 4 mins from take off to landing, a new record for the longest flight for the route. The greater circle distance is 7829nm, this particular flight flew 8176nm which I believe is the longest distance wise. Flight route was different to normal flying up to SIN then pretty much side to side with QF1 all the way to LHR

Does anyone know of this flight took off with any additional penalties.
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