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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:42 am

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I’m surprised they’ve opted to ferry back to AUH on 3 engines opposed to leasing an engine from QF considering -OQA is currently under going heavy maintenance in AUH.

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That could be feasible if EY had RR engines except they are powered by EA


Thanks for pointing that out for some reason I thought they had RR. Certainly would’ve been a solution though if they had RR’s.
I take it the 3 engine ferry flight out weighed hiring a hangar, positioning a replacement engine, dropping the old engine, fit the new engine & then position the old engine back to AUH.

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It would take a few days to fully assemble the engine too as they are too big to in 747Fs.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:12 am

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Etihad Airways A380 A6-APA been granted airways clearance by CASA to ferry SYD-AUH on 3 engines after going AOG in SYD on the 13th of February.

The aircraft departed SYD this morning & currently heading over DRW.

Flight EY9009 from Sydney
https://fr24.com/ETD9009/1f8841dd

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Aircraft ferried via SIN.
 
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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:13 am

decry wrote:
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Etihad Airways A380 A6-APA been granted airways clearance by CASA to ferry SYD-AUH on 3 engines after going AOG in SYD on the 13th of February.

The aircraft departed SYD this morning & currently heading over DRW.

Flight EY9009 from Sydney
https://fr24.com/ETD9009/1f8841dd

EK413


Aircraft ferried via SIN.


Explains why I couldn’t track the aircraft & more than likely the conditions of a 3 engine ferry.

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Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:23 am

    EK413 wrote:
    decry wrote:
    EK413 wrote:
    Etihad Airways A380 A6-APA been granted airways clearance by CASA to ferry SYD-AUH on 3 engines after going AOG in SYD on the 13th of February.

    The aircraft departed SYD this morning & currently heading over DRW.

    Flight EY9009 from Sydney
    https://fr24.com/ETD9009/1f8841dd

    EK413


    Aircraft ferried via SIN.


    Explains why I couldn’t track the aircraft & more than likely the conditions of a 3 engine ferry.

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    Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:17 pm

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    FEB 17th, qantas B789 VH-ZNG back in service after its repairs, due to its incident with some wayward ground equipment in MEL. Currently flying QF29 MEL-HKG.

    Wouldn’t know what’s wrong with VH-OEH? Been stuck in South Africa since Saturday
     
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    FEB 17th, qantas B789 VH-ZNG back in service after its repairs, due to its incident with some wayward ground equipment in MEL. Currently flying QF29 MEL-HKG.

    Wouldn’t know what’s wrong with VH-OEH? Been stuck in South Africa since Saturday


    VH-OEH is flying back tomorrow (19/2)to Sydney via Perth as QF64. ETA into Perth is 0230 and ETD 0630 AWST.
     
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    Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:30 pm

    Scoot to operate the Airbus A320 instead of the 787 once weekly to Perth from 6th April to 26th October. TR16/17 will only be operated by the A320 on Saturdays. TR8/9 remains operated by 787.

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    Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:36 pm

    rtav wrote:
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    undertheradar wrote:
    FEB 17th, qantas B789 VH-ZNG back in service after its repairs, due to its incident with some wayward ground equipment in MEL. Currently flying QF29 MEL-HKG.

    Wouldn’t know what’s wrong with VH-OEH? Been stuck in South Africa since Saturday


    VH-OEH is flying back tomorrow (19/2)to Sydney via Perth as QF64. ETA into Perth is 0230 and ETD 0630 AWST.


    Hhhm. I wonder why
     
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    Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:53 pm

    VA LAX flights have been reduced between 16 to26 February, all ports affected, due to VPE going into maintenance

    VA now has 57 737’s with WIFI with another 22 to go, by that count there will be 2 not seeing WIFI installed
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:11 pm

    Captdasbomb wrote:
    rtav wrote:
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    Wouldn’t know what’s wrong with VH-OEH? Been stuck in South Africa since Saturday


    VH-OEH is flying back tomorrow (19/2)to Sydney via Perth as QF64. ETA into Perth is 0230 and ETD 0630 AWST.


    Hhhm. I wonder why


    Update on -OEH. Looks to be ferrying (no passengers) JNB-SYD non stop as flight QF6001, arriving SYD about 8pm today(Tues 19th)
    I have no idea why...slightly educated guess, it was a mechanical problem, and all disrupted passengers on -OEH original flight QF64, which was cancelled on Sat 16th, have already been re-accommodated/flown on the subsequent 'normal' Sun/Mon/Tues QF64 services. Hence no need for -OEH to be a passenger carrying flight to SYD. Just my take on things from 'past life' experience ;) but not to be taken as 'gospel' :)
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:25 am

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    VA now has 57 737’s with WIFI with another 22 to go, by that count there will be 2 not seeing WIFI installed


    That sort of makes sense as VA have 79 73H and 2 73G, so all 800s will have wifi. Presumably the oddball 700s will be the first to be retired once the MAX start arriving.
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:42 am

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    qf789 wrote:

    VA now has 57 737’s with WIFI with another 22 to go, by that count there will be 2 not seeing WIFI installed


    That sort of makes sense as VA have 79 73H and 2 73G, so all 800s will have wifi. Presumably the oddball 700s will be the first to be retired once the MAX start arriving.


    I think the 73Gs are owned, so I'd imagine they'll stick around for as long they can (unless they're sold).
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:46 am

    undertheradar wrote:
    Captdasbomb wrote:
    rtav wrote:

    VH-OEH is flying back tomorrow (19/2)to Sydney via Perth as QF64. ETA into Perth is 0230 and ETD 0630 AWST.


    Hhhm. I wonder why


    Update on -OEH. Looks to be ferrying (no passengers) JNB-SYD non stop as flight QF6001, arriving SYD about 8pm today(Tues 19th)
    I have no idea why...slightly educated guess, it was a mechanical problem, and all disrupted passengers on -OEH original flight QF64, which was cancelled on Sat 16th, have already been re-accommodated/flown on the subsequent 'normal' Sun/Mon/Tues QF64 services. Hence no need for -OEH to be a passenger carrying flight to SYD. Just my take on things from 'past life' experience ;) but not to be taken as 'gospel' :)


    Update on my update :) according to flightradar, -OEH QF 6001 has now changed from destination SYD to destination PER. Never a dull moment in commercial aviation :)
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:40 am

    undertheradar wrote:
    undertheradar wrote:
    Captdasbomb wrote:

    Hhhm. I wonder why


    Update on -OEH. Looks to be ferrying (no passengers) JNB-SYD non stop as flight QF6001, arriving SYD about 8pm today(Tues 19th)
    I have no idea why...slightly educated guess, it was a mechanical problem, and all disrupted passengers on -OEH original flight QF64, which was cancelled on Sat 16th, have already been re-accommodated/flown on the subsequent 'normal' Sun/Mon/Tues QF64 services. Hence no need for -OEH to be a passenger carrying flight to SYD. Just my take on things from 'past life' experience ;) but not to be taken as 'gospel' :)


    Update on my update :) according to flightradar, -OEH QF 6001 has now changed from destination SYD to destination PER. Never a dull moment in commercial aviation :)


    It’s possible there was a mechanical issue with one of the engines. Now being a -400ER fitted with GE power plants are these fitted out with a 5th engine pod? That could be the answer why the aircraft was ferried and not operated a commercial service.

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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:48 am

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    It’s possible there was a mechanical issue with one of the engines. Now being a -400ER fitted with GE power plants are these fitted out with a 5th engine pod? That could be the answer why the aircraft was ferried and not operated a commercial service.

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    I believe that none of the ER's had a 5th pod, only the RR 400's have them.
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:58 am

    Apparently the next VA aircraft to become a tiger will head to TSV this weekend.
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 4:59 am

    Also VA 330 VH-XFG has not returned from Hong Kong since heading there on the 15th... I'm assuming a change in maintenance provider?
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:05 am

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    Apparently the next VA aircraft to become a tiger will head to TSV this weekend.


    And perhaps the tiger becomes a VARA
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:08 am

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    Also VA 330 VH-XFG has not returned from Hong Kong since heading there on the 15th... I'm assuming a change in maintenance provider?


    A330 maintenance was done in HKG last year, IIRC XFJ was there in November
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:13 am

    Domestic BITRE figures out for December

    Once again PER-KGI tops the lists for biggest increases in passengers numbers compared to 2017 by 17.8%. BNE-HBA up by 11.2% and ADL-ASP up by 7.1%

    Biggest losers were PPP-SYD down 24.6% followed by ASP-DRW down 12.9% and PER-DRW down 12.7%

    7 of the top 10 routes saw passenger numbers fall compared to 2017, I wonder how much of the weather issues experienced in December affected these number

    https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... r_2018.pdf
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:20 am

    VH-OJS positioned a few hours ago SFO-MHV
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:24 am

    Alliance has extended its agreement with VA to the end of 2021

    The agreement includes wet lease flying providing aircraft and crew on regional services and the upcoming BNE-POM route

    http://australianaviation.com.au/2019/0 ... australia/
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:28 am

    VH-OEH has just started descending into PER. Also NZ Air Force 757 landed in PER about an hour ago, this would make the 2nd 757 visit in the past 2 weeks
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:52 am

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    Also VA 330 VH-XFG has not returned from Hong Kong since heading there on the 15th... I'm assuming a change in maintenance provider?


    A330 maintenance was done in HKG last year, IIRC XFJ was there in November
    Any chance it would be the first VA A332 to be fitted with WiFi?

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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:24 am

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    VA LAX flights have been reduced between 16 to26 February, all ports affected, due to VPE going into maintenance

    VA now has 57 737’s with WIFI with another 22 to go, by that count there will be 2 not seeing WIFI installed


    With one 738 going to Tiger from this weekend, it seems there is only one left not scheduled to receive WiFi and chances are it will also head to Tiger in the next few months.

    VA has really got through its WiFi installations on the 737s at a good pace and it looks like it will pretty much be completed by mid-year with the A330s all completed in the second half.
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    With John Borghetti leaving VA in the next few months, I wonder if they will continue what they started with Brett Godfrey and register a future new delivery as VH-JMB. From memory, VA went out and bought the VH-BZG registration from an existing operator so repeating the honour is not out of the question even if there is already a VH-JMB registration.
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:07 am

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    Also VA 330 VH-XFG has not returned from Hong Kong since heading there on the 15th... I'm assuming a change in maintenance provider?


    A330 maintenance was done in HKG last year, IIRC XFJ was there in November
    Any chance it would be the first VA A332 to be fitted with WiFi?

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    Its there for routine maintenance however it may also get WIFI installed, as the first A332 for WIFI was suppose to be this month
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:13 am

    tullamarine wrote:
    qf789 wrote:
    VA LAX flights have been reduced between 16 to26 February, all ports affected, due to VPE going into maintenance

    VA now has 57 737’s with WIFI with another 22 to go, by that count there will be 2 not seeing WIFI installed


    With one 738 going to Tiger from this weekend, it seems there is only one left not scheduled to receive WiFi and chances are it will also head to Tiger in the next few months.

    VA has really got through its WiFi installations on the 737s at a good pace and it looks like it will pretty much be completed by mid-year with the A330s all completed in the second half.


    Yes I suspected the same thing that 2 737's were going to Tiger in the near future. It will be interesting to see if VARA gets the A320's, I would think they could absorb another 1 or 2 for the time being.
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:35 am

    qf789 wrote:
    tullamarine wrote:
    qf789 wrote:
    VA LAX flights have been reduced between 16 to26 February, all ports affected, due to VPE going into maintenance

    VA now has 57 737’s with WIFI with another 22 to go, by that count there will be 2 not seeing WIFI installed


    With one 738 going to Tiger from this weekend, it seems there is only one left not scheduled to receive WiFi and chances are it will also head to Tiger in the next few months.

    VA has really got through its WiFi installations on the 737s at a good pace and it looks like it will pretty much be completed by mid-year with the A330s all completed in the second half.


    Yes I suspected the same thing that 2 737's were going to Tiger in the near future. It will be interesting to see if VARA gets the A320's, I would think they could absorb another 1 or 2 for the time being.


    I hadn't realised that another 737 was heading to Tiggoz so that suggests that the 73Gs will receive wifi.
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:46 am

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    With John Borghetti leaving VA in the next few months, I wonder if they will continue what they started with Brett Godfrey and register a future new delivery as VH-JMB. From memory, VA went out and bought the VH-BZG registration from an existing operator so repeating the honour is not out of the question even if there is already a VH-JMB registration.


    I have a vague recollection that VH-BZG was an AN 767
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:25 am

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    Domestic BITRE figures out for December

    Once again PER-KGI tops the lists for biggest increases in passengers numbers compared to 2017 by 17.8%. BNE-HBA up by 11.2% and ADL-ASP up by 7.1%

    Biggest losers were PPP-SYD down 24.6% followed by ASP-DRW down 12.9% and PER-DRW down 12.7%

    7 of the top 10 routes saw passenger numbers fall compared to 2017, I wonder how much of the weather issues experienced in December affected these number

    https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... r_2018.pdf


    Weather was possibly a factor, but how many people cancel travel; wouldn't they just fly the next day? Seven of the top ten routes also saw a decrease in seats, but only three of the top ten routes saw a decrease in load factor.

    With MEL/AVV-SYD reporting the highest load factor of all published routes, 87.9%, it is no wonder QF is increasing the span of the ten minute frequency on this route from February.
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:31 am

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    VA now has 57 737’s with WIFI with another 22 to go, by that count there will be 2 not seeing WIFI installed


    That sort of makes sense as VA have 79 73H and 2 73G, so all 800s will have wifi. Presumably the oddball 700s will be the first to be retired once the MAX start arriving.


    Reminds me of a VA flight I was on recently that didn't have WiFi available. This dickhead carried on like a baby wondering how he'd survive without it for two hours, and asks the Cabin Crew if Richard Branson knows about this. Full points to the cabin crew who responded with "it's nothing to do with him, he's off to the side; John Borghetti runs the company."
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:32 am

    EK413 wrote:
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    Etihad Airways A380 A6-APA been granted airways clearance by CASA to ferry SYD-AUH on 3 engines after going AOG in SYD on the 13th of February.

    The aircraft departed SYD this morning & currently heading over DRW.

    Flight EY9009 from Sydney
    https://fr24.com/ETD9009/1f8841dd

    EK413


    Aircraft ferried via SIN.


    Explains why I couldn’t track the aircraft & more than likely the conditions of a 3 engine ferry.

    EK413


    What does AOG stand for?
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:36 am

    TasFlyer wrote:
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    Aircraft ferried via SIN.


    Explains why I couldn’t track the aircraft & more than likely the conditions of a 3 engine ferry.

    EK413


    What does AOG stand for?


    Aircraft on ground
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 10:52 am

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    Explains why I couldn’t track the aircraft & more than likely the conditions of a 3 engine ferry.

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    What does AOG stand for?


    Aircraft on ground


    Thanks, I assumed the OG was on ground, but the phrase "after going aircraft on ground in SYD" doesn't make sense???
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:20 pm

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    What does AOG stand for?


    Aircraft on ground


    Thanks, I assumed the OG was on ground, but the phrase "after going aircraft on ground in SYD" doesn't make sense???


    It essentially means it is broken down.
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:42 pm

    qf789 wrote:
    tullamarine wrote:
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    VA LAX flights have been reduced between 16 to26 February, all ports affected, due to VPE going into maintenance

    VA now has 57 737’s with WIFI with another 22 to go, by that count there will be 2 not seeing WIFI installed


    With one 738 going to Tiger from this weekend, it seems there is only one left not scheduled to receive WiFi and chances are it will also head to Tiger in the next few months.

    VA has really got through its WiFi installations on the 737s at a good pace and it looks like it will pretty much be completed by mid-year with the A330s all completed in the second half.


    Yes I suspected the same thing that 2 737's were going to Tiger in the near future. It will be interesting to see if VARA gets the A320's, I would think they could absorb another 1 or 2 for the time being.


    All Tiger A320’s will eventually be sent to VARA - Tiger is going all 738.
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:11 pm

    rtav wrote:
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    With one 738 going to Tiger from this weekend, it seems there is only one left not scheduled to receive WiFi and chances are it will also head to Tiger in the next few months.

    VA has really got through its WiFi installations on the 737s at a good pace and it looks like it will pretty much be completed by mid-year with the A330s all completed in the second half.


    Yes I suspected the same thing that 2 737's were going to Tiger in the near future. It will be interesting to see if VARA gets the A320's, I would think they could absorb another 1 or 2 for the time being.


    All Tiger A320’s will eventually be sent to VARA - Tiger is going all 738.


    After hearing rumours for several months I have only received something more substantial today that A320's are going to replace F100's
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:33 pm

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    VH-OEH has just started descending into PER. Also NZ Air Force 757 landed in PER about an hour ago, this would make the 2nd 757 visit in the past 2 weeks


    Just to tidy things up..after its PER stop, -OEH continued on to SYD, landing in SYD just before 11pm Tues 19th :)
     
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    Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:36 pm

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    Domestic BITRE figures out for December

    Once again PER-KGI tops the lists for biggest increases in passengers numbers compared to 2017 by 17.8%. BNE-HBA up by 11.2% and ADL-ASP up by 7.1%

    Biggest losers were PPP-SYD down 24.6% followed by ASP-DRW down 12.9% and PER-DRW down 12.7%

    7 of the top 10 routes saw passenger numbers fall compared to 2017, I wonder how much of the weather issues experienced in December affected these number

    https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... r_2018.pdf


    Interesting then that QF is moving ASP-DRW to a (mostly) twice-daily B737 from a (sometimes) twice-daily B717... they must really need that B717 elsewhere!
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:27 am

    qf2220 wrote:
    Guys, yes it is end of an era with the 744s leaving the fleet, but it isn't the end of the world! Im sure that there will be new things put in place to fill the roles that the 744 plays now. And really, the question of whether the 747 was the best aircraft is one that Im sure we can debate at length here, and for me seeing it go and being replaced with 789s and the Sunrise aircraft to me is a far more interesting landscape to think about than the current fleet is!

    Unfortunately, there really won’t be anything to fill the role of the 747. The days of big, thick aircraft are over, replaced by the long, slender 777’s and A350’s. No aircraft flying today has walls as vertical as those of the 747.
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:49 am

    tullamarine wrote:
    With John Borghetti leaving VA in the next few months, I wonder if they will continue what they started with Brett Godfrey and register a future new delivery as VH-JMB. From memory, VA went out and bought the VH-BZG registration from an existing operator so repeating the honour is not out of the question even if there is already a VH-JMB registration.


    That's a really good idea, despite what people may feel about Borghetti I think this would be a suitable 'honour', maybe this can be the first 737 MAX which is due in November?
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:56 am

    rtav wrote:
    qf789 wrote:
    tullamarine wrote:

    With one 738 going to Tiger from this weekend, it seems there is only one left not scheduled to receive WiFi and chances are it will also head to Tiger in the next few months.

    VA has really got through its WiFi installations on the 737s at a good pace and it looks like it will pretty much be completed by mid-year with the A330s all completed in the second half.


    Yes I suspected the same thing that 2 737's were going to Tiger in the near future. It will be interesting to see if VARA gets the A320's, I would think they could absorb another 1 or 2 for the time being.


    All Tiger A320’s will eventually be sent to VARA - Tiger is going all 738.

    I don't doubt that VARA will eventually get more A320s though it is unlikely it will receive all of them which would give them a fleet of 15. I would guess they will end up with around 6 or 7 ex-TT A320s with the remainder returned by Tiger to the lessors as the lease terms expire.
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:01 am

    DeltaB717 wrote:
    qf789 wrote:
    Domestic BITRE figures out for December

    Once again PER-KGI tops the lists for biggest increases in passengers numbers compared to 2017 by 17.8%. BNE-HBA up by 11.2% and ADL-ASP up by 7.1%

    Biggest losers were PPP-SYD down 24.6% followed by ASP-DRW down 12.9% and PER-DRW down 12.7%

    7 of the top 10 routes saw passenger numbers fall compared to 2017, I wonder how much of the weather issues experienced in December affected these number

    https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... r_2018.pdf


    Interesting then that QF is moving ASP-DRW to a (mostly) twice-daily B737 from a (sometimes) twice-daily B717... they must really need that B717 elsewhere!

    Such a move sounds seasonal. Traffic to DRW during the southern winter is much greater than during summer when the monsoon makes Darwin a humid and wet place to be around with many tourist hotspots such as Kakadu closed or limited.
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:01 am

    qf789 wrote:
    rtav wrote:
    qf789 wrote:

    Yes I suspected the same thing that 2 737's were going to Tiger in the near future. It will be interesting to see if VARA gets the A320's, I would think they could absorb another 1 or 2 for the time being.


    All Tiger A320’s will eventually be sent to VARA - Tiger is going all 738.


    After hearing rumours for several months I have only received something more substantial today that A320's are going to replace F100's


    It's a bit of a capacity jump, wonder if all those seats are needed.

    I would have thought a few A320s as they're coming off TT's leases could be swapped for some sourced A319s which must be a bargain in the current market surely.
    Would beat flying empty seats around and still offer the commonality of the A320s.
    (the counter argument being would VA really want another aircraft type....)
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:36 am

    tullamarine wrote:
    DeltaB717 wrote:
    qf789 wrote:
    Domestic BITRE figures out for December

    Once again PER-KGI tops the lists for biggest increases in passengers numbers compared to 2017 by 17.8%. BNE-HBA up by 11.2% and ADL-ASP up by 7.1%

    Biggest losers were PPP-SYD down 24.6% followed by ASP-DRW down 12.9% and PER-DRW down 12.7%

    7 of the top 10 routes saw passenger numbers fall compared to 2017, I wonder how much of the weather issues experienced in December affected these number

    https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... r_2018.pdf


    Interesting then that QF is moving ASP-DRW to a (mostly) twice-daily B737 from a (sometimes) twice-daily B717... they must really need that B717 elsewhere!

    Such a move sounds seasonal. Traffic to DRW during the southern winter is much greater than during summer when the monsoon makes Darwin a humid and wet place to be around with many tourist hotspots such as Kakadu closed or limited.


    I'm aware of the seasonal nature of flights to the NT. I'm also aware that ASP-DRW is about 50/50 leisure and business/govt, especially since the current NTG decentralised its offices. You're half right: the increase in frequency is seasonal, but the change to a B737 is not, so it remains a significant (~40 seats per flight) increase in capacity, and with those Business seats to worry about selling as well. It's still, in my opinion, an interesting contrast to the figures published by BITRE.
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:33 am

    It is a surprise they are swapping the NT 717s for 737s, but i think this may be more to do with the 717s being wanted elsewhere? With the closure of the DRW-CNS route and the DRW-ASP-PER route (which was operated by DRW base), the DRW 717 base is being removed?

    I'm guessing the ASP-DRW service will be operated by an east coast based 737.

    I would have thought the F100s would be a good size for the NT, but probably not worth justifying a new base. Otherwise might be a better fit for an Airnorth E170, especially with NT GOV trying to reduce expenses.
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:10 am

    jrfspa320 wrote:
    It is a surprise they are swapping the NT 717s for 737s, but i think this may be more to do with the 717s being wanted elsewhere? With the closure of the DRW-CNS route and the DRW-ASP-PER route (which was operated by DRW base), the DRW 717 base is being removed?

    I'm guessing the ASP-DRW service will be operated by an east coast based 737.

    I would have thought the F100s would be a good size for the NT, but probably not worth justifying a new base. Otherwise might be a better fit for an Airnorth E170, especially with NT GOV trying to reduce expenses.


    717s being wanted/needed elsewhere is part of the point I originally made. And yes, the DRW 717 base is closing.

    The timings on PER-DRW and vv. some days has changed, making me think it's more likely the DRW-ASP service will be operated by PER base.
     
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    Re: Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

    Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:51 am

    Qantas has scheduled a one-off A380 for MEL-NRT on Oct 21 for a charter flight, replacing the A330 on QF79/QF80 that day. NRT-MEL is the charter leg but MEL-NRT open for regular bookings.

    https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -oct-2019/

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