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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:37 am

avier wrote:
Why do flight routes avoid Gujarat when say avoiding Pak airspace? Seeing EK's DXB-DEL flight come North of Mumbai and then track towards DEL, clearly avoid the western Gujarat airspace from Arabian Sea.

That airspace has been restricted by IAF and Navy for use by civilian traffic. Its a point of contention between airlines and govt.
See this: https://m.timesofindia.com/india/Let-us ... 819239.cms
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:42 am

What about Ludhiana and Adampur? SG's DEL-AIP (Adampur) flight shows up as cancelled, but not 9I's DEL-LUH flight.
In grieving remembrance of the thousands of people who lost their lives on ET-AVJ, PK-LQP, XA-UHZ, S2-AGU, CP-2933, SU-GCC, EI-ETJ, D-AIPX, PK-AXC, 9M-MRD, VT-AXV and above all 9M-MRO, besides many more. Your deaths are not in vain. Safety first, always.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:24 pm

VTCIE wrote:
What about Ludhiana and Adampur? SG's DEL-AIP (Adampur) flight shows up as cancelled, but not 9I's DEL-LUH flight.


The airspace was closed as a whole, so I expect both of them to be cancelled.

Something truly great from 6E, which will surely turn out to be the opposite of another twitter disaster
https://twitter.com/IndiGo6E/status/1100745956348153858
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:42 pm

anshabhi wrote:
avier wrote:
Why do flight routes avoid Gujarat when say avoiding Pak airspace? Seeing EK's DXB-DEL flight come North of Mumbai and then track towards DEL, clearly avoid the western Gujarat airspace from Arabian Sea.

That airspace has been restricted by IAF and Navy for use by civilian traffic. Its a point of contention between airlines and govt.
See this: https://m.timesofindia.com/india/Let-us ... 819239.cms


Seems like that airspace is now partly open to Indian carriers with 9W over-flying that area for it's DEL-DXB flight.

Edit: Now even a GF BAH-DEL flight seems to be tracking to overfly that area, if FR24 is displaying it right.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:02 pm

An article by a leading miles+points blogger. https://onemileatatime.com/pakistan-airspace-closes
In grieving remembrance of the thousands of people who lost their lives on ET-AVJ, PK-LQP, XA-UHZ, S2-AGU, CP-2933, SU-GCC, EI-ETJ, D-AIPX, PK-AXC, 9M-MRD, VT-AXV and above all 9M-MRO, besides many more. Your deaths are not in vain. Safety first, always.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:46 pm

Would today's SG flight from Kabul- DEL be their longest flight on their 737NG with almost 6hr 15min flying time because of the huge detour (?). Im aware their MAX flies to HKG, but didn't imagine their NG's would be made to fly such a long route.

Also aircraft delivery flights won't count if accounting for longest flights for the airlines .
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:26 pm

avier wrote:
Would today's SG flight from Kabul- DEL be their longest flight on their 737NG with almost 6hr 15min flying time because of the huge detour (?). Im aware their MAX flies to HKG, but didn't imagine their NG's would be made to fly such a long route.

Also aircraft delivery flights won't count if accounting for longest flights for the airlines .


I did follow that flight, half expecting it to make a refueling stop in AMD.

The DEL-HEL Finnair flight too took a very interesting route eventually diverting to DWC.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 2#1fa272ab
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:39 pm

anshabhi wrote:
VTCIE wrote:
What about Ludhiana and Adampur? SG's DEL-AIP (Adampur) flight shows up as cancelled, but not 9I's DEL-LUH flight.


The airspace was closed as a whole, so I expect both of them to be cancelled.

Something truly great from 6E, which will surely turn out to be the opposite of another twitter disaster
https://twitter.com/IndiGo6E/status/1100745956348153858
Image


The page does not exist :(

I was able to get the pbs twimg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0aihngU0AMJvu5.jpg

which tells the story.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:03 pm

 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:23 pm

pune wrote:


What does this have to do with Indian Aviation?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:06 am

With Pakistan airspace closed, what happens to 6E DEL-IST service, can A321 handle the detour?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:46 am

According to AI all US flights will be routed via AMD.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:46 am

Also it seems UA49/83 are cancelled. I thought BOM EWR could be routed west, over Iran though
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:08 am

Apparently Capt Nachiketa - the Indian fighter pilot who captured by the Pakistanis during the Kargil war - is now an A320 captain at IndiGo.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:30 am

Irehdna wrote:
Also it seems UA49/83 are cancelled. I thought BOM EWR could be routed west, over Iran though


US carrier over Iran? no no no. Won't happen.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:14 am

IndiGo will continue to add a new aircraft every week to its existing fleet until "eternity"
https://www.cnbctv18.com/aviation/analy ... ssion=true
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:36 am

All US India eastbound flights today seemed to make it all the way, including DEL ORD. What's interesting though is UA is claiming 77E can make the DEL EWR southern routing, don't know about that tbh...
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:53 am

Irehdna wrote:
All US India eastbound flights today seemed to make it all the way, including DEL ORD. What's interesting though is UA is claiming 77E can make the DEL EWR southern routing, don't know about that tbh...

It seems VT-ALG is still stuck at SHJ, after AI 174 from SFO. It will probably move after crew get enough rest to fly back to Delhi
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:37 pm

anshabhi wrote:
Irehdna wrote:
All US India eastbound flights today seemed to make it all the way, including DEL ORD. What's interesting though is UA is claiming 77E can make the DEL EWR southern routing, don't know about that tbh...

It seems VT-ALG is still stuck at SHJ, after AI 174 from SFO. It will probably move after crew get enough rest to fly back to Delhi


It seems for the time being for IND US:
UA flights will stop via BGR
AI flights besides SFO are stopping in SHJ
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:06 pm

Pakistan airspace closure to end at 1330 IST tomorrow
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:13 pm

JOYA380B747 wrote:
Off Topic: Is it too early OR pointless to jump the gun (more like jump the artillery) and think of the dreaded possibility of reciprocal airspace restrictions between India and its neighbour given the current scenario. Who'd lose more in such a "situation"?


I was dreading this airspace catastrophe ever since Pulwama started. Hopefully this situation resolves and never returns.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:44 pm

Walaneh wrote:
I was at defence.pk where some military people from Pakistan were talking about shooting down commercial planes flying out of India towards gulf etc.. 12 Indian fighter jets bomb terrorists camp in some areas of Pakistan. This is serious situation. Indian aviation looks game over.

This makes absolutely no sense to me
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:15 pm

pune wrote:
Has anybody seen this - https://scroll.in/article/836309/indias ... age-indian

Another data point that most Indians cannot fly.


That disputes the core contention of UDAAN, it is about improving connectivity to Tier 3 cities that otherwise are not economically feasible.

Subu
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - February 2019

Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:11 pm

subramak1 wrote:
pune wrote:
Has anybody seen this - https://scroll.in/article/836309/indias ... age-indian

Another data point that most Indians cannot fly.


That disputes the core contention of UDAAN, it is about improving connectivity to Tier 3 cities that otherwise are not economically feasible.

Subu


Udan is about this:

<“The biggest beneficiaries [of UDAN] will be businessmen and professionals in the interiors of India, who spend far more time and cost commuting to the big cities by road and rail,” Amber Dubey, partner and India head of aerospace and defence at the global consultancy KPMG told IndiaSpend.>
 
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Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:54 pm

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