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Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:31 pm

On Thursday, Air Senegal took delivery of the first of two A330-900neo aircraft which will be deployed on their new DSS-CDG route. Due to delivery delays, the route will be operated a Hifly A340 for the month of February. The aircraft is configured with 32 Business, 21 Premium Economy and 237 Economy seats. It is the first aircraft to feature Stelia Aerospace's new Opal Business Class seat, which will be also introduced as SQ's new regional business seat. Additionally the airline has expressed interest in flying to JFK, LON, DXB, and GRU in the future, when the second A330neo arrives.

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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:43 pm

Well the seat is already in operation at SQ since last year.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:47 pm

Who will take these aircraft when Air Senegal v 7.0 inevitably folds?
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:53 pm

MaverickM11 wrote:
Who will take these aircraft when Air Senegal v 7.0 inevitably folds?


Not an unrealistic scenario given history. Who is bankrolling the adventure? ME? Chinese?
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:38 pm

Those premium economy seats look really comfortable.

If they really want to be a well run airlines with profitability, they should have chosen a few leased A321neo instead of a large wide-body though.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:48 pm

MaverickM11 wrote:
Who will take these aircraft when Air Senegal v 7.0 inevitably folds?

Oh please, how about a bit of positivity for a change ? Will this lovely bird just spend it's life going to CDG ?
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:00 pm

TC957 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Who will take these aircraft when Air Senegal v 7.0 inevitably folds?

Oh please, how about a bit of positivity for a change ? Will this lovely bird just spend it's life going to CDG ?

People will urinate on any piece of good news.

But please Air Senegal, just don't announce JFK.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:01 pm

TC957 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Who will take these aircraft when Air Senegal v 7.0 inevitably folds?

Oh please, how about a bit of positivity for a change ? Will this lovely bird just spend it's life going to CDG ?

If you read this forum for a while, you already know that this person only makes negative comments, usually full of disdain. Never expect any positive comment from him.

Anyway, beautiful aircraft.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:10 pm

I wonder if they'd be interested in starting YUL-DSS.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:30 pm

sabby wrote:
If they really want to be a well run airlines with profitability, they should have chosen a few leased A321neo instead of a large wide-body though.


This! The 321neo seems like the perfect plane for this type of small flag carrier, especially given the geographic location of DSS. They could easily do CDG and probably could even do YUL/JFK if they wanted. It's much more likely to be viable both because the cost per flight would be lower, and because the airline could maintain a single jet type for both their local and long-haul needs and not need the complexity of a separate group of pilots/maintenance for a tiny widebody subfleet.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:04 pm

They’ve not taken delivery of it yet it’s just a demonstration event. You can see on the picture it’s still got the Airbus reg applied.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:10 pm

Going up against an AF 77W daily on the same route with connections to every point on the globe. I am sure the demand is there, but I can’t imagine Air Senegal getting the premium traffic even with a significant revenue discount.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:34 pm

bsbisland wrote:
TC957 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Who will take these aircraft when Air Senegal v 7.0 inevitably folds?

Oh please, how about a bit of positivity for a change ? Will this lovely bird just spend it's life going to CDG ?

If you read this forum for a while, you already know that this person only makes negative comments, usually full of disdain. Never expect any positive comment from him.

Can not agree more on that - it becomes really just annoying! :scratchchin:

Ok back to topic, it could be good if they can launch and combine FCO/MIL with MAD/BCN to reach the diaspora.
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:00 pm

This was very under the radar, it seems. Beautiful bird. Great interior as well. World class.
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:34 pm

Any reason why they chose Zodiac RAVE instead of Panasonic eX3 (stupid question I know, but I'd appreciate any answers)
To me, it will always be:
- Bombardier CSeries
- Airbus A321neoLR and A321neoXLR
- EMBRACER ERJ-170, ERJ-175, ERJ-190, and ERJ-195
- MITSUBUSHI MRJ

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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:47 pm

SQ22 wrote:
Well the seat is already in operation at SQ since last year.


Nope, the 787-10 seat at SQ is a Solstys seat:

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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:58 pm

RB211trent wrote:
They’ve not taken delivery of it yet it’s just a demonstration event. You can see on the picture it’s still got the Airbus reg applied.

Yep, the frame was not delivered, the thread name is wrong. She flew back to TLS the same day.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:12 pm

MaverickM11 wrote:
Who will take these aircraft when Air Senegal v 7.0 inevitably folds?

Must you be negative about them? Why not think they will do it better this time....
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:55 pm

Very nice airplane and interior and I wish them well!!!! Can the A321NEO do Senegal to JFK/YUL nonstop without penalties? The A321NEO sounds a bit too small for such a route in my opinion but that is just my opinion.

A388
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:04 pm

A388 wrote:
Very nice airplane and interior and I wish them well!!!! Can the A321NEO do Senegal to JFK/YUL nonstop without penalties? The A321NEO sounds a bit too small for such a route in my opinion but that is just my opinion.

A388

An A321LR can do it easily.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:22 pm

Good luck but I bet the finance company has a bet going on among the staff.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:38 pm

eastafspot wrote:
bsbisland wrote:
TC957 wrote:
Oh please, how about a bit of positivity for a change ? Will this lovely bird just spend it's life going to CDG ?

If you read this forum for a while, you already know that this person only makes negative comments, usually full of disdain. Never expect any positive comment from him.

Can not agree more on that - it becomes really just annoying! :scratchchin:

Ok back to topic, it could be good if they can launch and combine FCO/MIL with MAD/BCN to reach the diaspora.

Several versions ago, Air Senegal flew to some of those destinations with a 73G, and failed. How is a 339 going to make it better?

tami102 wrote:
MaverickM11 wrote:
Who will take these aircraft when Air Senegal v 7.0 inevitably folds?

Must you be negative about them? Why not think they will do it better this time....

EK struggles in DKR/DSS with the world behind its DXB hub; DL has been flying JFK for years and can only manage 2 weekly 757s. ET and KQ don't even fly nonstop to their hubs. Where are these 290 seat planes going to fly....profitably?
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:10 pm

Polot wrote:
A388 wrote:
Very nice airplane and interior and I wish them well!!!! Can the A321NEO do Senegal to JFK/YUL nonstop without penalties? The A321NEO sounds a bit too small for such a route in my opinion but that is just my opinion.

A388

An A321LR can do it easily.


Thanks Polot. Is that route cargo-heavy meaning that a widebody aircraft is necessary because of the higher cargo capacity?

A388
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:37 pm

tami102 wrote:
Must you be negative about them? Why not think they will do it better this time....


Dare I say in the current environment, it's difficult for airlines to be sustainable with small fleets. The economies of scale required certainly exceed the 7 aircraft they currently have or have on order. This problem gets exponentially magnified with wide bodies given their relatively higher ownership and trip costs.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:41 pm

Polot wrote:
A388 wrote:
Very nice airplane and interior and I wish them well!!!! Can the A321NEO do Senegal to JFK/YUL nonstop without penalties? The A321NEO sounds a bit too small for such a route in my opinion but that is just my opinion.

A388

An A321LR can do it easily.


Not easily, and depends very much on the config. Very limited, if any cargo capability. Right at the limits.
 
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Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:46 pm

[quote="MaverickM11"]
Several versions ago, Air Senegal flew to some of those destinations with a 73G, and failed. How is a 339 going to make it better?
The partnership with RAM was a really bad idea. AT killed them off in no time!
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