RWA380 wrote:airportugal310 wrote:RWA380 wrote:
You are correct, The Japanese Society of Oregon has many culturally diverse programs with Oregon. Portland's sister city is Kyoto Japan & years ago, a wildly popular Japanese TV series called "From Oregon with Love" was what sparked the above average Japanese tourism here. It's one of those unique things about Portland & Oregon that bucks the trend.
The issue does remain, that in fact our government is looking at what routes benefit the American flyers & not inbound tourists. Requests like LAS on AA is on par with DL to HNL. The only reason HA got their last HND slot was that no other carrier would or could use it, not because they turned the DOT's minds on tourism as a metric for the route authority.
You don’t know that. You assume that, but dont know that. So stop passing it off as fact...I think it’s the second time now on this thread alone
I don't know what? I spoke of many different things, yet you go off half cocked with some general statement as if you are an authority, so please enlighten me. If you are referring to the government using the benefit to American travelers, it was certainly is a metric that was used, the last time HND routes were awarded, Why would that have changed this time?
RWA, my recollection of HA’s slot awards are very similar to your statements. As a matter of fact, I seem to recall some, if not all of the “US3” carriers mentioning that exact argument in their statements to the DOT. It was well known that primary POS was going to be in Japan. Nevertheless HA was awarded the slot and went on to be the only carrier to operate the route with no service disruptions, downgauges etc. When day time slots became available the same arguments were made by the US3. HA was awarded slots but not in line with their full request which was for HNL and KOA to operate daily, concurrently.
AirPortugal, just because you work for HA doesn’t automatically make you the foremost authority on all things Hawaiian. I frequently see you lashing out at people in threads concerning HA and injecting your opinions or understandings as fact. I remember a thread about a year ago where you lashed out at a poster who said UA was larger than HA to and from the mainland. I recall about 5 posters, myself included providing you factual evidence to the contrary of your aggressively dealt claim that it was in fact HA.
RWA worked in the Hawaii travel industry when HA was little more than an interisland carrier, not the Pacific powerhouse you work for today. He brings a lot of historical insight to threads regarding HA and Hawaii aviation at large. I enjoy reading his contributions to this forum and he has never struck me as the type of poster to spot off nonsense. So ease off the hostilities and show a little more aloha.