You can follow all events regarding Routes Americas here- https://www.routesonline.com/events/194 ... icas-2019/

A list of attendees can be found here- https://www.routesonline.com/events/194 ... delegates/

What do you hope your airport can get out of this event? Do you have any predictions? This event is very important in Civil Aviation, airports meet to talk about new service and even real estate options for their airports.

Hoping for some low-cost European service (or even Asian) to BWI. Just one would make me happy.

flymco753 wrote:

You can follow all events regarding Routes Americas here- https://www.routesonline.com/events/194 ... icas-2019/
What do you hope your airport can get out of this event?

Probably a few good cocktail parties.

jbpdx wrote:

Probably a few good cocktail parties.

Reply of the day goes to jbpdx! Would love to be a fly on the bar of said parties!

flymco753 wrote:

This event is very important in Civil Aviation, airports meet to talk about new service and even real estate options for their airports.

I don't mean to be a debbie downer here, but is it? Is it important?

Sure - sometimes you get some fun announcements, but the actual deals aren't hashed out at Routes.

I've attended several Routes conferences over the years and like GBTA they've transitioned from useful meeting forums to straight up boondoggles crawling with low-end vendors especially over the past three years or so as sponsored parties have become the focus of discussion. In my experience the really productive meetings take place well outside the gazes of competitors and liquored up loose lips.

Aer Lingus on Detroit Dublin.
Korean Air on Detroit-Seoul
Lufthansa on Detroit-Munich
DL/VS on Detroit Manchester

This conference covers North and South America. International falls under World Routes.

klm617 wrote:

Aer Lingus on Detroit Dublin.
Korean Air on Detroit-Seoul
Lufthansa on Detroit-Munich
DL/VS on Detroit Manchester

This is Routes Americas. No Transatlantic. No Transpacific.

Pay attention.

klm617 wrote:

Aer Lingus on Detroit Dublin.
Korean Air on Detroit-Seoul
Lufthansa on Detroit-Munich
DL/VS on Detroit Manchester

Biman Bangladesh Detroit-Dhaka
Air Bagan Detroit-Yangon
Air Zimbabwe Detroit-Harare
Air Koryo Detroit-Pyongyang

winginit wrote:

klm617 wrote:

Aer Lingus on Detroit Dublin.
Korean Air on Detroit-Seoul
Lufthansa on Detroit-Munich
DL/VS on Detroit Manchester

This is Routes Americas. No Transatlantic. No Transpacific.

Pay attention.

EI, IB, BA, FI, IAG, LH, DY, TK, DE, and other Euro airlines are going to be in attendance.

From Asia/Africa:
CZ, W3, and AK will be there as well

While it is mostly Airlines in the Americas, all the Major European Airlines will be there
https://www.routesonline.com/events/194 ... tendeeList

TWA772LR wrote:

klm617 wrote:

Aer Lingus on Detroit Dublin.
Korean Air on Detroit-Seoul
Lufthansa on Detroit-Munich
DL/VS on Detroit Manchester

Biman Bangladesh Detroit-Dhaka
Air Bagan Detroit-Yangon
Air Zimbabwe Detroit-Harare
Air Koryo Detroit-Pyongyang

Alaska Detroit-Barrow/Utqiagvik
Aeromas Detroit-Montevideo
Air Tanzania Detroit-Dar es Salaam
ANZ Detroit-Christchurch

winginit wrote:

flymco753 wrote:

This event is very important in Civil Aviation, airports meet to talk about new service and even real estate options for their airports.

I don't mean to be a debbie downer here, but is it? Is it important?

Sure - sometimes you get some fun announcements, but the actual deals aren't hashed out at Routes.

I've attended several Routes conferences over the years and like GBTA they've transitioned from useful meeting forums to straight up boondoggles crawling with low-end vendors especially over the past three years or so as sponsored parties have become the focus of discussion. In my experience the really productive meetings take place well outside the gazes of competitors and liquored up loose lips.

I always think any kind of meeting an airport can get with an airline is important for a region. Of course, I have no idea what actually goes on since it's part of an airline/airports plan.

jbpdx wrote:

flymco753 wrote:

You can follow all events regarding Routes Americas here- https://www.routesonline.com/events/194 ... icas-2019/
What do you hope your airport can get out of this event?

Probably a few good cocktail parties.

A good friend of mine calls these conferences ridiculously expensive traveling frat parties. Party all night, hungover meetings in the morning, partial recovery by lunch, then the day is followed by another party. Consultants do all the heavy lifting.

winginit wrote:

flymco753 wrote:

This event is very important in Civil Aviation, airports meet to talk about new service and even real estate options for their airports.

I don't mean to be a debbie downer here, but is it? Is it important?

Sure - sometimes you get some fun announcements, but the actual deals aren't hashed out at Routes.

I've attended several Routes conferences over the years and like GBTA they've transitioned from useful meeting forums to straight up boondoggles crawling with low-end vendors especially over the past three years or so as sponsored parties have become the focus of discussion. In my experience the really productive meetings take place well outside the gazes of competitors and liquored up loose lips.

People think of Routes just as an opportunity to pitch new markets, but the biggest value we (my airport) receives these days is checking in on how existing markets are performing. As we exit this period where a lot of the low hanging fruit markets were picked, the focus now should be on sustaining existing service - particularly coming into a likely (if slight) recession in 2020.

I'll be there and have 20 or so meetings scheduled. The vast majority of these will be focused on existing service, or introductory conversations with carriers that likely won't be flying into our market in the next 3-5 years.

ScroogeMcDuck wrote:

TWA772LR wrote:

klm617 wrote:

Aer Lingus on Detroit Dublin.
Korean Air on Detroit-Seoul
Lufthansa on Detroit-Munich
DL/VS on Detroit Manchester

Biman Bangladesh Detroit-Dhaka
Air Bagan Detroit-Yangon
Air Zimbabwe Detroit-Harare
Air Koryo Detroit-Pyongyang

Alaska Detroit-Barrow/Utqiagvik
Aeromas Detroit-Montevideo
Air Tanzania Detroit-Dar es Salaam
ANZ Detroit-Christchurch

No, actually klm617 has logically pointed out some good prospects like DUB which was mentioned as an unserved route, I think anna.aero reported it? I don't necessarily think there's a need for a 2nd ICN flight, but LH to MUC wouldn't be out of the realm either. MAN is a growing market, it doubled last year, however the growth is still immature so, if it keeps up it would be a good add in a few years. Focusing on America though, I'd think prospects would be connectivity to South America to replace what DL dropped, an SJO route since this is decently sized, and some JV Canadian flying on Westjet. Couple that with maintaining a healthy relationship with NK and maybe trying to attract a domestic airline whether leisure or EAS.

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

Its more about networking if anything, not just airline-airports, but airport-to-airport, and airport-vendor, but its also crawling with industry consultants.

They don't hammer out deals at these events, but in theory they could lead to follow-up conversations and series of meetings to eventually lead to something tangible down the road.

Whether or not this follows the 10-3-1 rule is anyones' guess. You often never heard about the true origin of conversation in any route / air service development initiatives.

Not sure what you are basing this off of, I know MCI secured a new route during one of their meetings and it was announced within 1-2 months later, I’m sure there are other examples like this.

Now am I saying that all meetings will result in things like this, no, of course not. But, you would be surprised at what can happen.

I find it pretty interesting that YQG is attending this conference.

klm617 wrote:

I find it pretty interesting that YQG is attending this conference.

I can see them wanting to talk to a few different airlines, including:
TS and WG for more sun flights;
WS for Encore service to YYZ;
AC for Dash 8 or CRJ service to YOW; and
Swoop, Jetlines and Enerjet for ULCC service.

Thanks for the links. I never heard of this before

I am surprised QR is not attending this year.

Particularly strangely, the smallest player in China-US game is the only Chinese player joining. Is that a sign of spike on routes?

winginit wrote:

klm617 wrote:

Aer Lingus on Detroit Dublin.
Korean Air on Detroit-Seoul
Lufthansa on Detroit-Munich
DL/VS on Detroit Manchester

This is Routes Americas. No Transatlantic. No Transpacific.

Pay attention.

So why are Aer Lingus and Turkish (among others) attending?

Speaking of which, I’d like both Airlines to move further towards starting service at DEN.

Midwestindy wrote:

Not sure what you are basing this off of, I know MCI secured a new route during one of their meetings and it was announced within 1-2 months later, I’m sure there are other examples like this.

Now am I saying that all meetings will result in things like this, no, of course not. But, you would be surprised at what can happen.

If they "got it at the meeting" that means the airline had already known they were going to do it before the meeting.

TWA772LR wrote:

klm617 wrote:

Aer Lingus on Detroit Dublin.
Korean Air on Detroit-Seoul
Lufthansa on Detroit-Munich
DL/VS on Detroit Manchester

Biman Bangladesh Detroit-Dhaka
Air Bagan Detroit-Yangon
Air Zimbabwe Detroit-Harare
Air Koryo Detroit-Pyongyang

Hah brilliant!