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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:08 pm

The less growth this year is kinda good in a way as the new pier g is opening which will increase capacity at YYZ. Right now I feel that YYZ is at maximum capacity as it went over 47 million pax last year. Hopefully they build Pier H soon so that there is more capacity to add more flights once the max groundings end.

whywhyzee wrote:
You can really see the effect of the max on YYZ numbers, combined with Wow and Jet going under, I personally have never seen international numbers drop in my entire life of actually following the monthly stats, and it's been years.

With AI starting in September, that should help a little. The year will probably finish around 51 million, still not bad. At least it'll artificially inflate next year's growth %
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:45 pm

YYZ only up 0.2%, YOW declining 3.2% in July. Clearly the multi year big gains are slowing down in most (all?) Canadian markets. Is this a sign that the economy is running out of steam?
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:43 pm

YLW January-July 2019 (YTD)

Month 2018 / 2019 / % Change
Jan 176,389 / 181,729 / +3.0%
Feb 173,940 / 179,039 / +2.9%
Mar 185,796 / 193,715 / +4.3%
Apr 156,816 / 155,532 / -0.8%
May 155,911 / 155,259 / -0.4%
Jun 162,040 / 160,894 / -0.7%
Jul 187,678 / 178,602 / -4.8%

YTD to end of Q2:
2018 / 2019 / % Change
1,010,892 / 1,026,168 / +1.5%

YTD Jan-July:
2018 / 2019 / % Change
1,198,570 / 1,204,770 / +0.5%

Given how WS-dominant YLW is, it's no surprise that all months since the MAX situation are in negative territory.
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:35 am

Skywatcher wrote:
YYZ only up 0.2%, YOW declining 3.2% in July. Clearly the multi year big gains are slowing down in most (all?) Canadian markets. Is this a sign that the economy is running out of steam?


YVR is -0,4% in July. Scheduled traffic only grew (less than 1%) for both domestic and transborder. The rest is negative, even charters. It will be interesting to see how YUL fared. They were still strong during the first half with +5,7%.
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:04 pm

YUL

July 2019

Domestic 727,990 -1.2%

International 943,063 +6.5%

USA 423,622 +1.9%

YTD

11,779,807 +5.2%

https://www.admtl.com/sites/default/fil ... 019_EN.pdf
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:13 pm

Skywatcher wrote:
YYZ only up 0.2%, YOW declining 3.2% in July. Clearly the multi year big gains are slowing down in most (all?) Canadian markets. Is this a sign that the economy is running out of steam?


Not at all but more like the effects of grounding 42-56 Canadian MAXes (depends on whether you count the planned deliveries post-March). Check my YOW July analysis. You’ll notice that the domestic drop entirely aligns with the temporary MAX reductions.

YOW’s transborder numbers will suck till next March due to the UA ORD suspension until 06MAR20. Again the capacity cuts almost exactly match the beyond weird ORD route suspension...which itself is due to UA’s CR7–>CR5 conversions and an apparent regional pilot shortage and not due to lack of demand. To make things weirder, UA actually upgauged a few YOW-ORD flights to mainline in the weeks prior to the suspension...you wouldn’t do that if there weren’t any demand. For UA, surely YOW was the easiest thing to temporarily cut as I bet they just shifted thousands of pax to YYZ connections, something no other station (apart from YUL) can do on an hourly basis.
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:43 am

westaust wrote:
YUL

July 2019

Domestic 727,990 -1.2%

International 943,063 +6.5%

USA 423,622 +1.9%

YTD

11,779,807 +5.2%

https://www.admtl.com/sites/default/fil ... 019_EN.pdf



However July is only up 2.7% compared to 6.6% last year and 11.3% in 2017, that was a special year for Montreal. Traffic growth is slowing down months after months.
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:35 am

July stats - Canada's busiest airports

YYZ 4,904,294 +0.2%
YVR 2,609,511 -0.4%
YUL 2,094,675 +2.7%
YYC 1,756,376 +2.2%
YEG 753,764 -1.8%
YOW 442,893 -3.2%

YTD stats - Canada's busiest airports (until July)

YYZ 29,367,106 +2.6%
YVR 15,309,805 +2.0%
YUL 11,779,807 +5.2%
YYC 10,346,325 +4.1%
YEG 4,773,139 +0.9%
YOW 3,011,094 +1.8%
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:45 pm

Thenoflyzone wrote:
July stats - Canada's busiest airports

YYZ 4,904,294 +0.2%
YVR 2,609,511 -0.4%
YUL 2,094,675 +2.7%
YYC 1,756,376 +2.2%
YEG 753,764 -1.8%
YOW 442,893 -3.2%

YTD stats - Canada's busiest airports (until July)

YYZ 29,367,106 +2.6%
YVR 15,309,805 +2.0%
YUL 11,779,807 +5.2%
YYC 10,346,325 +4.1%
YEG 4,773,139 +0.9%
YOW 3,011,094 +1.8%


According to this press release announce YVR increasing their non-BC/Yukon AIF to $25, YVR had 74 consecutive months of growth that ended in July: https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/y ... 25550.html

74 months in a row is almost unheard of for any airport anywhere.

The longer the MAX is grounded, the longer the airports will suffer. Look at all the seasonal transborder route suspensions out west that WS are going to be doing.

For YOW on top of that, transborder will now suck for all of 2021 as UA, two days before they resume YOW-ORD, are pulling off of YOW-EWR, leaving the route solely to AC = 40% capacity drop!
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:17 pm

Also, while I know up until now this thread has only been dedicated to pax, YMX's 'pax' (i.e. cargo) have been growing a lot.

(in French only): https://www.transportroutier.ca/nouvell ... amionnage/

107,600 tonnes of cargo in 2018 = +11%. Cargo also grew by 7.2% in 2017.
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:26 pm

Here's the AIF (airport improvement fee) charges for the 6 largest airports in Canada;

YVR $20
YYC $30
YEG $30
YYZ $25
YOW $23
YUL $30

I'm flying YUL-YVR-YUL next week. That'll be $50 in AIF charges (roughly 10% of the total cost).

Between the HST/GST/QST, AIF's, airport rent and various other taxes/fees Canadians are absolutely being hosed. The Federal public service is strangling consumers with more and more taxes while providing less and less services in return. Imagine how much higher the traffic figures would be if the feds would loosen the tax chokehold?
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:37 pm

Skywatcher wrote:
Between the HST/GST/QST, AIF's, airport rent and various other taxes/fees Canadians are absolutely being hosed. The Federal public service is strangling consumers with more and more taxes while providing less and less services in return. Imagine how much higher the traffic figures would be if the feds would loosen the tax chokehold?


How do you suggest we fund airports if we abolish all the fees and taxes?

Is it fair for someone who never flies to subsidize someone who does? Will you pay more in income taxes to cover this shortfall?

Will flying really increase that much if flying is 10-20% cheaper? Is that a desirable goal (other than for Air Canada and Westjet, obviously)?
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:52 pm

Skywatcher wrote:
Here's the AIF (airport improvement fee) charges for the 6 largest airports in Canada;

YVR $20
YYC $30
YEG $30
YYZ $25
YOW $23
YUL $30

I'm flying YUL-YVR-YUL next week. That'll be $50 in AIF charges (roughly 10% of the total cost).

Between the HST/GST/QST, AIF's, airport rent and various other taxes/fees Canadians are absolutely being hosed. The Federal public service is strangling consumers with more and more taxes while providing less and less services in return. Imagine how much higher the traffic figures would be if the feds would loosen the tax chokehold?


The AIFs aren't taxes. The main airport "taxes" in a plane ticket are the "rents" paid by the Airport Authorities and the "payments in-lieu of taxes" to municipalities. One could argue those are too high. I wouldn't count the GST (or HST) as flying is a service and you'll pay the service tax on anything that is a service. CATSA's "fees" are definitely a "tax", but once CATSA is privatized they really will be "fees".
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:09 pm

wave46 wrote:
Skywatcher wrote:
Between the HST/GST/QST, AIF's, airport rent and various other taxes/fees Canadians are absolutely being hosed. The Federal public service is strangling consumers with more and more taxes while providing less and less services in return. Imagine how much higher the traffic figures would be if the feds would loosen the tax chokehold?


How do you suggest we fund airports if we abolish all the fees and taxes?

Is it fair for someone who never flies to subsidize someone who does? Will you pay more in income taxes to cover this shortfall?

Will flying really increase that much if flying is 10-20% cheaper? Is that a desirable goal (other than for Air Canada and Westjet, obviously)?


I understand that the AIF charges revert back to each airport authority for upgrades etc. I'm OK with that but I would argue that the airport authorities could be more productive/efficient and lower the fees somewhat.
The airport rents are an absolute cash grab by the Federal government from the airports. Does any of that revert back to the industry?
The municipal taxes are largely justified for services rendered.
Yes the HST/QST is an economy wide VAT tax but Manitoba/Sask./BC and Alberta do not charge provincial tax which is the bulk of the amount. Why do consumers in those provinces not get dinged while everybody else does? How much of the cash collected goes back into the air transport industry? None?
The Navcan fee I understand.
The security fee is another cash grab. Nobody pays a fee at land border crossings.

All in all the taxes/fees largely disappear into the black hole that is the Federal government's spending wasteland.
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:12 pm

"All in all the taxes/fees largely disappear into the black hole that is the Federal government's spending wasteland"

That's one way of looking at it. But if those taxes/fees are cancelled, then they'll need to be replaced somewhere else, like more income taxation...

The main drawback of our steep air transport taxation is the loss of customers to closeby subsidized US airports, or make using you car a little more attractive on shorter legs.
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:14 pm

I would really love to know where I might find numbers for the northern hubs. Particularly YXY, YZF, YRT, YFB and YVP.
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:36 pm

heathrow wrote:
I would really love to know where I might find numbers for the northern hubs. Particularly YXY, YZF, YRT, YFB and YVP.


StatsCan is your best bet.
us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:20 pm

Not a whole lof of info, but here you go.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en ... 2310025301

Yearly passenger numbers

YXY 349,459 (2017)
YZF 449,398 (2018)
YRT N/A
YFB 156,641 (2015)
YVP N/A
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:45 pm

Thanks for including YLW, it seems to be fairly consistently in the #11 spot for busiest airport in Canada by passenger volume. Think it managed to make it into the #10 spot in 2018


Dominion301 wrote:
YLW January-July 2019 (YTD)

Month 2018 / 2019 / % Change
Jan 176,389 / 181,729 / +3.0%
Feb 173,940 / 179,039 / +2.9%
Mar 185,796 / 193,715 / +4.3%
Apr 156,816 / 155,532 / -0.8%
May 155,911 / 155,259 / -0.4%
Jun 162,040 / 160,894 / -0.7%
Jul 187,678 / 178,602 / -4.8%

YTD to end of Q2:
2018 / 2019 / % Change
1,010,892 / 1,026,168 / +1.5%

YTD Jan-July:
2018 / 2019 / % Change
1,198,570 / 1,204,770 / +0.5%

Given how WS-dominant YLW is, it's no surprise that all months since the MAX situation are in negative territory.
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:12 pm

Dominion301 wrote:
For YOW on top of that, transborder will now suck for all of 2021 as UA, two days before they resume YOW-ORD, are pulling off of YOW-EWR, leaving the route solely to AC = 40% capacity drop!


Might AC add a bit more capacity on the route to make up for it?
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:17 pm

Dominion301 wrote:
Skywatcher wrote:
Here's the AIF (airport improvement fee) charges for the 6 largest airports in Canada;

YVR $20
YYC $30
YEG $30
YYZ $25
YOW $23
YUL $30

I'm flying YUL-YVR-YUL next week. That'll be $50 in AIF charges (roughly 10% of the total cost).

Between the HST/GST/QST, AIF's, airport rent and various other taxes/fees Canadians are absolutely being hosed. The Federal public service is strangling consumers with more and more taxes while providing less and less services in return. Imagine how much higher the traffic figures would be if the feds would loosen the tax chokehold?


The AIFs aren't taxes. The main airport "taxes" in a plane ticket are the "rents" paid by the Airport Authorities and the "payments in-lieu of taxes" to municipalities. One could argue those are too high. I wouldn't count the GST (or HST) as flying is a service and you'll pay the service tax on anything that is a service. CATSA's "fees" are definitely a "tax", but once CATSA is privatized they really will be "fees".


I will comment on the HST / GST side of things from an Ontario perspective since I work in taxation here.

Prior to 2011 Ontario never charged a a sales tax for flying, we just had the GST. Domestic Flights were PST exempt prior to 2011, when HST came out we got a new 8% tax on flying domestically in the province. So we have not always had tax on things that are a service, there are lots of services in the country we do not pay HST on. Mostly for political reasons vs anything else.

GST has been on flights since its inception. But we do not charge the GST on international flights, except for one country - The USA. Why do we do this? Assume government doesn't think the economics benefits of cutting this tax outweigh the money it brings in. I also doubt most people know we charge GST to only one country outside of Canada.

Ontario also brought in a new Jet fuel tax in 2015, and it is increasing each year until 2020. We also have the carbon tax on jet fuel as well, which came in under the provincial Liberals, removed under provincial Conservatives and brought back by Federal Liberals. The carbon tax will be increasing annually, so expect that reflected in price of tickets. I think the last report I read said by 2025 Toronto - Vancouver RT would increase by $50 just via the carbon tax.

Ontario also has pretty big tax credits for Northern Ontario, I think per flight Thunder Bay gets the most money but would need to look this up again. Sault Saint Marie is number 2 (and really not even that North).
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:23 pm

Ottawa YOW August 466,899
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:51 pm

YOW August

To elaborate on what gdg9 reported on YOW for August:

Here's YOW's August pax stats:

Sector / Aug-18 / Aug-19 / % Change
Dom: 398,042 / 390,138 / -2.0% - this can pretty much be attributed to the MAX reductions
TB: 56,936 / 50,812 / -10.8% - UA's 3x/day ORD suspension. If not cxx, @ 80% ORD LF, TB would have been +2.3%
Int'l: 25,920 / 25,949 / +0.1% - Assuming 100% completion factor, Int'l had a 93.8% LF for the month.
TTL: 480,898 / 466,899 / -2.9%

Sector YTD 2018 / YTD 2019 / % Change
Dom: 2,671,722 / 2,679,673 / +0.3%
TB: 486,721 / 484,410 / -0.5%
Int'l: 281,017 / 313,910 / +11.7%
TTL: 3,439,460 / 3,477,993 / +1.1%

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2018
Dom: 4,010,160 / +0.2%
TB: 718,459 / -0.3%
Int'l: 420,715/ +8.5%
TTL: 5,149,334 / +0.8%
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:02 pm

YLW August

Aug 2019 183,191 passengers (-10% Aug y/y) (-0.9% YTD y/y)

https://ylw.kelowna.ca/business/facts-statistics
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Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:10 pm

YEG August

Rough month for YEG.

Highlights:
Terminal Traffic: 730,598 passengers = -7.1% (5,221,399 Year-to-date = -1.2%)
• Domestic 648,535 passengers = -6.5% (4,262,692 Year-to-date = -1.2%)
• Transborder 60,928 passengers = -12.8% (643,810 Year-to-date = +0.6%)
• International 21,135 passengers = -11.0% (314,897 Year-to-date = -4.9%)

FBO Traffic: 43,766 passengers = +17.5% (326,104 Year-to-date = +20.7%)
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:43 am

YUL

August & YTD

Total: 2,140,637 +2,6% // 13,920,038 +4,8%

Domestic: 745,781 -1,4% // 4,857,675 +1,3%

International : 964,041 +5,8% // 5,989,248 +9,2%

Transborder: 430,815 +3% // 3,073,115 +2,3%
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:38 pm

YVR

August & YTD

Domestic: 1,282,643 -1.2% // 8,529,638 1.2%

Transborder: 651,410 0.2% // 4,441,797 1.5%

Asia Pacific: 435,325 -2.5% // 3,130,188 3.2%

Europe: 260,976 -1.1% // 1,244,476 0.8%

Total international including TB & Misc: 1,399,055 -1.2% // 9,461,919 1.9%


Total: 2,681,698 -1.2% // 17,991,557 1.5%
 
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Re: Canadian Airports 2019 statistics

Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:51 pm

YYC


August & YTD

Total: 1,796,993 +0,8% // 12,146,658 +3,62%

Domestic: 1,302,872 -1,9% // 8,428,353 +2,47%

Transborder: 325,135 +4% // 2,371,566 +5,17%

International: 168,986 +20,1% // 1,346,739 +8,4%

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