alric8 wrote:I don't really see how EK could just continue expanding anyway. Route preference goes from best to worst and there are only so many places you can send an A380 or 777 profitably. Not only that but EK has FZ below them using up many of the routes which EK might just be able to get away with using.
phatfarmlines wrote:alric8 wrote:I don't really see how EK could just continue expanding anyway. Route preference goes from best to worst and there are only so many places you can send an A380 or 777 profitably. Not only that but EK has FZ below them using up many of the routes which EK might just be able to get away with using.
Once DWC fully comes online, and with the terminal & runway capacity it brings, the argument for operating the A380 becomes nullified. You saw that with the recent switch from the EK A380 to the A330neo/A350 orders.
Croden wrote:This might be a long shot, but why not, instead of consolidating all the flights to one airport (DXB), EK provide services for both and a connecting rail/ shuttle service between DXB and DWC for less popular connections?
JayinKitsap wrote:DWC is a case where the initial plan was just too big. Had they shot for a 120 million pax terminal vs 200 million it is likely that the costs would have been 3/4 what they have to complete it. Instead they have a half finished really big airport.
peterinlisbon wrote:It's pretty crazy when you add Sharjah and Abu Dhabi into the mix, each with their own airlines (Air Arabia and Etihad).
worldranger wrote:peterinlisbon wrote:It's pretty crazy when you add Sharjah and Abu Dhabi into the mix, each with their own airlines (Air Arabia and Etihad).
Air Arabia with 321LRs & SHJ is perfectly positioned to get Indigo’s (for example) Indian customers to EU. Watch that space. In fact I’m surprised they haven’t gone after Wizz & Indigo to create a LCC competitor to QR.EK by connecting the regions - Air Arabia MENA, Wizz EU, Indigo IN. Better yet meet in DWC. I know plenty of expat families who take Wizz/PGS from DWC up to EU then another LCC to home cities. EK too expensive for a family of five going home for holidays.
Thee are two factors to the tectonic shift against the dedicated hub model - 787 type bypass & low cost comp with the LR from secondary city hubs.
Without a large domestic customer base EK yields will be eroded by lower cost copycat plays & point to point. Look at what the Chinese are doing to CX.
TK has three advantages now - domestic demand, right sized aircraft, & a mega hub.
For EK employess - the saving grace is Dubai needs EK - but the party is over.
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