Thank you for the heads up on that book, I will have to see if I can find it, sounds like exactly what I am looking for. Yes I will be staying at the new TWA hotel so I’m very excited for that. I kick myself now passing up so many opportunities to fly into JFK when I was younger instead opting for LGA. I really enjoy how each airline had its onw style and flavor in their terminals at JFK, something we cannot experience as much nowadays.
global2 wrote:I haven't been in there in years, and if the way Delta treated the Worldport before demolishing it is any indication, I wouldn't get my hopes up for its condition today.
jfklganyc wrote:I could understand love for the Pan Am and TWA terminals, Please don’t ever pretend to love the old international building.
No windows, old sterile hallways, public address system that didnt work. Bad setup.
Just one big mess. That being knocked down was the best thing that could ever happen to JFK
HermansCVR580 wrote:Yes the old LGA tower is really a shame, they should have found a way to save and incorporate into the new terminal. I took a picture this summer of what is left of that tower just to remember what was lost.
At JFK is there on main security area or is each terminal separate? I’m flying JetBlue so if I wanted to go to terminal 2 would I be cleared or would I need a Delta ticket to go there?
SCFlyer wrote:The old AA T8 had a large mural which IIRC was moved to Miami when the old T8 and old T9 (which started life as the DL/UA joint terminal before AA took over the building from NW and UA in the early 90s) were demolished.
questions wrote:global2 wrote:I haven't been in there in years, and if the way Delta treated the Worldport before demolishing it is any indication, I wouldn't get my hopes up for its condition today.
Your point of view is different from my understanding. I’m all for historic preservation and wish there could have been a way to renovate the original portion of T3 and incorporate it into a useable and economically viable space. Delta inherited T3 from its acquisition of Pan Am’s European routes and the terminal facilities were in worse shape than originally thought due to Pan Am’s lack of investment in maintening the terminal. Said another way, it was the way Pan Am treated the Worldport.
Delta poured millions into T3 without fully renovating the terminal to keep it operational while working with the Port Authority to build out T4. This was during the Leo Mullin era. That plan was shelved and Delta continued to pour millions into maintaining T3 until a new plan to build out T4 could be designed and funded — the current day T4B. Obviously Delta occupied T3 much longer than expected and spent millions more than anticipated just to keep it operational.
Fully renovating T3 and incorporating it into an economically viable space was cost prohibitive and operationally disadvantageous. Yes, T3 was riddled with problems including for example, from a passenger’s perspective, birds and water catchers and hoses to redirect rain water during storms due to a notoriously leaky roof. However to suggest that Delta mistreated the facility when in fact the company poured millions into it to try to keep it operational is inaccurate.
Please feel free to expand on your point of view.
william wrote:What was the thinking of each terminal getting a direct connector to Van Wyck freeway but not to each other. One cannot drive from one terminal to another. Took a shuttle to JFK and for ever terminal drop off we had to go back to VW freeway and do a U turn to go to another terminal.
I miss T6, it had a nice modern vibe to it.
More interesting info on how the name was changed.
https://www.6sqft.com/before-jfk-there- ... d-airport/
jfk777 wrote:It's time for Terminal 2 to go and a new marvelous T3 built on the old Pan AM site. JFK doesn't have an "international " terminal and needs one, I say this in name only since, obviously, most flights at JFK are international but fly with a hub airline(DL), use an alliance partners terminal( AA T 8) or use T1 built by four top foreign airlines. There is no "international terminal" for unaligned airlines or a Star alliance terminal, T1 is NOT a star alliance terminal.
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