No, please don't shoved words into my mouth. I clearly said since we don't have a valid data from Boeing for the total sales of B737MAX8. Nobody could stated that B737MAX8 outsold A320neo. I make that conclusion according to the data provided by both Airbus and Boeing. Not opinion.
You are discrediting MAX7 which is understandable. But MAX9 and MAX10?
If all the unknown orders are for B737MAX8, then it would outsold A320neo by 11 frames!
Let me give you the number again the MAX8 have 2,614 confirmed orders + 1,588 Unknown variants (1,043 of those from unidentified customers) . While A320neo have 4,191 Confirmed orders.
If some airlines order 12 or more MAX9 or MAX10. Then A320neo outsold B737MAX8 by just 1 frame.
Now which one is more likely, my calculations on the fact that some airlines would probably order 12 or more MAX9 or MAX10 or your theory on how all the orders are for MAX8?
Clearly the theory I initially stated that the orders are distributed proportionally based on the known orderbook. All other options are extremes with very little basis. But that distribution still makes your original statement which was that 7M8 has outsold 320NEO since both were on the market is a “big fat LIE” an incorrect statement, one which you boldly claimed as fact.
By the same logic, any person out there who said that B737MAX8 has outsold A320neo is a liar. Because we have 0 evidence to suggest so.
Anybody claiming otherwise is a Liar. No?
All I have is the order book from both Airbus and Boeing. You could checked it yourself to make any sort of conclusions:https://www.airbus.com/content/dam/corporate-topics/publications/backgrounders/Backgrounder-Airbus-Commercial-Aircraft-A320neo-Customers-list-EN.pdfhttp://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/displaystandardreport.cfm?cboCurrentModel=737&optReportType=AllModels&cboAllModel=737&ViewReportF=View+Report
I’ve looked at the orderbook for both aircraft. In fact that was the very first thing I did before replying in the first place. The Boeing document you linked does not differentiate models at all. It only says 5011 MAX orders.
To review, another poster stated that since both were available (December 13, 2011), 7M8 has outsold 320N. You said that statement was a “big fat LIE”.
Number of orders for each airplane:
A320NEO - 3153 orders since December 13, 2011
A321NEO - 2167 orders since December 13, 2011
737-8 - 2614 orders + up to 1588
737-9/10 - 741 orders + up to 1588
Unknown - 1588
First I’m going to calculate the differences in known orders as well as in total orders for the families.
1965-1588=377 -> 320N/321N has outsold 737-8/9/10 by 377 units total since December 13, 2011.
Now I’m going to calculate the % of the unknown orderbook MAX 8 must command to outsell A320NEO. As well as the % of the known orderbook MAX 8 holds and allocate unknown orders accordingly.
540/1588=34% (percentage MAX 8 must command)
2614/(2614+741)=77.9% (percentage MAX 8 commands)
737 MAX 8 must command 34% of the unknowns to have outsold A320NEO. Of the 1588 unknowns, based on MAX 8 commanding 77.9% of known orders, 1237 of the unknowns are MAX 8.
1237>539 therefore MAX 8 has outsold 320NEO since December 13, 2011.
However lets assume that you are right and MAX 8 only commands 539 or less of the unknowns and the rest are for -9/10. I’ll calculate orders and difference for 737-9/10 vs A321NEO.
741+1049=1790 total MAX 9/10 orders
Now I’ll calculate the market share % for both A321NEO and 737-9/10 if this is the case.
1790+2167=3957 (Total Market)
2167/3957= 55% Market share for A321NEO
1790/3957=45% Market share for 737-9/10
So, either MAX 8 has outsold 320NEO since December 13, 2011 or -9/-10 have taken at the very least, 45% of the 737-9/10/321NEO market since December 13, 2011.
Take your pick.
I am NOT an employee of any airline or manufacturer. I speak for myself, not on the behalf of any company.