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When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:55 am

I am guessing it was at some point in the late 90s around the time they had lost most of their 727s. But they didn't lose all of the 727s, and there were no blue 727s, so that could also imply the new livery was introduced only on the 737s or in the early 2000s.

Tried to research but couldn't find anything. Anyone have any ideas?
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:05 am

It was introduced with the 737 in 2001
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:41 am

Got a particular date? Did they have any 727s/DC-10s in 2001?
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:04 am

Veigar wrote:
Got a particular date? Did they have any 727s/DC-10s in 2001?


Thought of searching for pictures?



In 2001 still had one or two DC-10s active, before becoming a full scheduled carrier.
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:18 am

Because SY was in a lot of turmoil around then, I wasn't sure if they still had any of their trijets left since research just says they lost "most" of their airplanes. Guess the (short lived) CEO didn't want any of the trijets that were leftover in the new blue livery... although, it would have been cool to see. I guess SY's 737s, while also new to the fleet, introduced a new color. The trijets I am assuming didn't last very long from here on out -- must have been mere months that the 737s in this livery co-existed with the 727s and DC-10s
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:47 am

Veigar wrote:
Because SY was in a lot of turmoil around then, I wasn't sure if they still had any of their trijets left since research just says they lost "most" of their airplanes. Guess the (short lived) CEO didn't want any of the trijets that were leftover in the new blue livery... although, it would have been cool to see. I guess SY's 737s, while also new to the fleet, introduced a new color. The trijets I am assuming didn't last very long from here on out -- must have been mere months that the 737s in this livery co-existed with the 727s and DC-10s


Here are some old threads from then:

Sun Country viewtopic.php?f=3&t=128909&hilit=Sun+Country

Sun Country Receives First 737-700 viewtopic.php?f=3&t=122193&hilit=Sun+Country

Sun Country Is Finished viewtopic.php?f=3&t=123735&hilit=Sun+Country

And here you can see some 727s still active: https://www.airliners.net/search?aircra ... aphed=2001

as well as the last DC-10s that were scheduled for retirement at the of April 2001: https://www.airliners.net/search?aircra ... lay=detail
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:50 pm

Super interesting how they randomly re registered N710SY...

They still have the original N710SY from 2001, now N716SY, as well as the newer one: https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... s/3q8gSKkw
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:51 pm

When MN Airlines LLC took over control of SY (2002) after the 2001 bankruptcy filing, SY had 2 727 and 2 737. The 737 were 801SY 804 SY then then picked up 805sy and retired the 727 by fall of 2002. I don't remember the ship numbers of the 727. The blue colors can when SY got the 737. The DC -10 left as the 737 arrived IIRC
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:54 pm

SY also lost 800SY in 2001 if I recall?
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:39 pm

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SY also lost 800SY in 2001 if I recall?


As far as I can tell, they operated N800SY from 2001 to 2002.
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:07 pm

800SY/802/803SY went back to ILFC because of the bankruptcy in 12/2001 N710SY & 711SY (737-700) also returned As of today SY is flying 30 737-700/800 including 3 -800 from Transavia...3 more 737-800 join the fleet in April. Some time this year the remaining -700 will leave the fleet
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:38 pm

sunking737 wrote:
800SY/802/803SY went back to ILFC because of the bankruptcy in 12/2001 N710SY & 711SY (737-700) also returned As of today SY is flying 30 737-700/800 including 3 -800 from Transavia...3 more 737-800 join the fleet in April. Some time this year the remaining -700 will leave the fleet


They also have N860AM and N861AM, in the NEW livery (Tide Pods). Not sure if you included them in your totals.
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:41 pm

So how many -700's are left?
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:03 pm

Yes 860am & 861AM are in there...4 737-700 are left IIRC only 3 are leaving SUBJECT TO CHANGE
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:02 am

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Yes 860am & 861AM are in there...4 737-700 are left IIRC only 3 are leaving SUBJECT TO CHANGE


Thanks. Odd they would keep one -700. Those aircraft never made much sense to me at Sun Country from a CASM stand point unless the price was so low it made up for the fewer passengers.
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:23 pm

SUNCTRY738 wrote:
sunking737 wrote:
Yes 860am & 861AM are in there...4 737-700 are left IIRC only 3 are leaving SUBJECT TO CHANGE


Thanks. Odd they would keep one -700. Those aircraft never made much sense to me at Sun Country from a CASM stand point unless the price was so low it made up for the fewer passengers.


Possibly SY is keeping the -700 for NCAA charters or just any charter operation? This would make sense as some charters do not need the larger -800. Does anyone know where this year's -800 additions are coming from? Aeromexico again?
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:46 am

rainaviation2 wrote:
SUNCTRY738 wrote:
sunking737 wrote:
Yes 860am & 861AM are in there...4 737-700 are left IIRC only 3 are leaving SUBJECT TO CHANGE


Thanks. Odd they would keep one -700. Those aircraft never made much sense to me at Sun Country from a CASM stand point unless the price was so low it made up for the fewer passengers.


Possibly SY is keeping the -700 for NCAA charters or just any charter operation? This would make sense as some charters do not need the larger -800. Does anyone know where this year's -800 additions are coming from? Aeromexico again?


Not sure why they are keeping one. May have something to do with their lease terms too.

The new to SY are coming from FLYDUBAI. They are already going through Heavy checks, repainting. They should then go to RFD for conformity with the rest of the fleet.
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:28 am

sunking737 wrote:
Not sure why they are keeping one. May have something to do with their lease terms too.

The new to SY are coming from FLYDUBAI. They are already going through Heavy checks, repainting. They should then go to RFD for conformity with the rest of the fleet.


Yes that could be the case.

Thanks for the info! After a quick look at the FLYDUBAI fleet, I assume SY will get the 7-9 year old -800s that are being replaced with the MAX.

Off topic but this is about the SY fleet. I am confused because yesterday I saw a photo of the interior of N820SY (one of two SY planes to have Boeing sky interior) and it seems as though SY kept the economy seats that were already on this plane and just added the "Best" seats up front. Is this true or was I mistaken by the photo? It would make sense as those seats were very new. I could tell because these economy seats were the newest in the fleet and had adjustable headrests.
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Sun Feb 24, 2019 6:20 am

AFAIK They replaced every seat. In addition the removed the half the F/C galley and the F/C closet for added room. I still know some folks at SY.. The planes also went from 2 ovens in front and 4 in back to only 2 in the back. No more hot food on the entire plane its all BOB. The ovens are retained for charter work when a hot sandwich is asked for like DOD charters IIRC The planes coming are from GECAS...A6-FDP/Q/R
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:06 pm

SteveXC500 wrote:
sunking737 wrote:
800SY/802/803SY went back to ILFC because of the bankruptcy in 12/2001 N710SY & 711SY (737-700) also returned As of today SY is flying 30 737-700/800 including 3 -800 from Transavia...3 more 737-800 join the fleet in April. Some time this year the remaining -700 will leave the fleet


They also have N860AM and N861AM, in the NEW livery (Tide Pods). Not sure if you included them in your totals.



Unless I am delusional I think I remember reading SY tweeting about how their first ever owned airplane received the Tide Pod livery first too (N860AM). If this is the case then that is super cool.
 
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Re: When did Sun Country's blue livery first appear?

Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:45 pm

sunking737 wrote:
AFAIK They replaced every seat. In addition the removed the half the F/C galley and the F/C closet for added room. I still know some folks at SY.. The planes also went from 2 ovens in front and 4 in back to only 2 in the back. No more hot food on the entire plane its all BOB. The ovens are retained for charter work when a hot sandwich is asked for like DOD charters IIRC The planes coming are from GECAS...A6-FDP/Q/R


Oh okay, thanks. I have never even heard of GECAS until now! Hopefully these have the Sky Interior, according to FLYDUBAI's website, their -800s do have the mood lighting. These airframes are the oldest in the fleet though so I won't hold my breath :)

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