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Re: Loganair thread - 2019

Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:31 pm

And now Loganair announce new Edinburgh-East Midlands and Glasgow-East Midlands, this will replace Flybe on the route.
 
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Re: Loganair thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:25 am

Loganair has added DND-LCY x11 weekly replacing the STN route and also added DND-BHD 6x weekly.
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/lo ... d-belfast/
 
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Re: Loganair thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:51 am

MHArt wrote:
Loganair has added DND-LCY x11 weekly replacing the STN route and also added DND-BHD 6x weekly.
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/lo ... d-belfast/


I saw this earlier this morning. Excellent news for Dundee and Loganair. Hopefully the Belfast flights will be sustainable. I think the 3x weekly winter frequency is about right.

Particularly looking forward to the move to London City. I live in South-East London so I have managed to gain some time by no longer having to drag myself across London to Stansted.
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Re: Loganair thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:34 pm

Yes great news. LCY far preferable for the majority I would imagine. Stansted is far from ideal and not a great experience. Should have always remained LCY. I presume ATR switch is just purely for LCY ops rather than true justification in numbers, hence why lead prices cheaper than STN. Does DND have immigration facilities - so that DUB could be on the radar like Carlisle if the BFS experiment works.
 
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Re: Loganair thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:03 pm

by738 wrote:
Yes great news. LCY far preferable for the majority I would imagine. Stansted is far from ideal and not a great experience. Should have always remained LCY. I presume ATR switch is just purely for LCY ops rather than true justification in numbers, hence why lead prices cheaper than STN. Does DND have immigration facilities - so that DUB could be on the radar like Carlisle if the BFS experiment works.


With the AMS flight of the past I suppose they have immigration. Any news of that fligth returning?
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Re: Loganair thread - 2019

Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:33 pm

by738 wrote:
Yes great news. LCY far preferable for the majority I would imagine. Stansted is far from ideal and not a great experience. Should have always remained LCY. I presume ATR switch is just purely for LCY ops rather than true justification in numbers, hence why lead prices cheaper than STN. Does DND have immigration facilities - so that DUB could be on the radar like Carlisle if the BFS experiment works.


I think its the ATR or nothing. The 340s are to be retired and replaced with ATRs. Unless they go down to a Twin Otter or an Islander there isnt much else they can put on the route. Perhaps this was also part of their PSO funding bid.

I would have thought the 340 would be able to use LCY (admittedly I've never seen one there). Loganair already send the Saab 2000 into LCY on the IOM run.
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Re: Loganair Thread

Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:15 pm

I was booked on SEN-ABZ for mid August. Loganair emailed me yesterday to tell me they are stopping the route from mid-April.
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:37 pm

ATR-42 G-LMRA is currently operating some of the LCY-IOM services for BA.

https://flic.kr/p/2isuL9g
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:17 pm

sincil wrote:
I was booked on SEN-ABZ for mid August. Loganair emailed me yesterday to tell me they are stopping the route from mid-April.


I was always surprised Loganair were operating into SEN in the first place. Doesn't seem like the right LON airport for them, IMO. They're more of a regional/business/niche market airline. LCY would have been better and now. They started with ABZ, GLA and SYY (via GLA) and from April, none of these will operate. CAX and LDY came later I think. LM now operate to DND from LCY so they should just transfer all routes to LCY.
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:07 pm

CarbonFibre wrote:
ATR-42 G-LMRA is currently operating some of the LCY-IOM services for BA.
https://flic.kr/p/2isuL9g


Thank you for sharing that link. What a beautiful classic livery on that ATR-42!! The black belly is interesting, it will disappear into storm clouds in Edinburgh when viewed from below.
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Re: Loganair Thread

Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:28 pm

Loganair have announced multiple new routes in order to replace Flybe. All of the routes below are from EDI, I will try to post the rest later.

New routes:
· Edinburgh to Manchester. Flights start 23 March 2020

EDI 0645-0755 MAN (Mon-Thu & Sat)
EDI 1440-1550 MAN (Tue-Fri)
EDI 1810-1920 MAN (Mon-Fri & Sun)

MAN 0830-0940 EDI (Mon-Thu & Sat)
MAN 1620-1730 EDI (Tue-Fri)
MAN 1950-2100 EDI (Mon-Fri & Sun

·Edinburgh to Cardiff. Flights start 23 March 2020

EDI 1015-1135 CWL (Mon, Tue, Thu & Sat)
EDI 1040-1200 CWL (Wed)
EDI 1420-1540 CWL (Fri & Sun)

CWL 1205-1325 EDI (Mon, Tue, Thu & Sat)
CWL 1230-1350 EDI (Wed)
CWL 1610-1730 EDI (Fri & Sun)

·Edinburgh to Exeter. Flights start 23 March 2020

EDI 0700-0825 EXT (Fr)
EDI 1015-1150 EXT (Tu-Th)
EDI 1400-1525 EXT (Mo)
EDI 1435-1610 EXT (Sa & Su)

EXT 0855-1020 EDI (Fr)
EXT 1220-1355 EDI (Tu-Th)
EXT 1555-1720 EDI (Mo)
EXT 1640-1815 EDI (Sa & Su)

·Edinburgh to Newquay. Flights start 20 June 2020

EDI 0800-0940 NQY (Sun)
EDI 1540-1720 NQY (Sat)

NQY 1010-1150 EDI (Sun)
NQY 1750-1930 EDI (Sat)

·Edinburgh to Southampton. Flights start 15 June 2020
EDI 0650-0830 SOU (M-Sa)
EDI 1115-1255 SOU (Sa)
EDI 1235-1415 SOU (M-F&Su)
EDI 1700-1840 SOU (M-F&Su)

SOU 0900-1040 EDI (Mo-Sa)
SOU 1325-1505 EDI (Sa)
SOU 1445-1625 EDI (M-F&Su)
SOU 1910-2050 EDI (M-F&Su)

Thanks to SeanM1997 for the info

Link: https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/12 ... 14272?s=19
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:34 am

maybe getting some more ATR soon ?
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:06 am

NCL-BRU being dropped (temporarily?) to accomodate NCL-SOU and NCL-EXT
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Re: Loganair Thread

Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:17 am

danipawa wrote:
maybe getting some more ATR soon ?


Yes, plenty more on the way. Two ATR-72-600 arrived last week at ABZ, G-FBXA & XB, which were part of the Chorus Aviation folio and most recently operating in full SAS livery. They are both currently in an all white finish and awaiting the Loganair 'tartan lite' livery as seen on the Saab 2000 and certain ERJ's.
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:04 pm

Can you two children behave? Thanks.

OT:
The amount of flights started by loganair can't be done with the current aircraft alone right? Or are they underutilizing the current fleet or keeping the SAAB aircraft longer untill more ATR's arrive?
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Re: Loganair Thread

Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:16 pm

Off topic, but Eastern seems to be picking up SOU-MAN on a Fokker 100, 10 or 11x weekly..does anyone know where it's coming from? Carpatair? Trade Air? Avanti?
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:23 pm

I've heard a mix of reports on this, some saying it's a reference to the E170, while another, at Manchester Airport listing a specific Trade Air F100 airframe..Will be interesting to see what happens
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:08 am

FlyRow wrote:
Can you two children behave? Thanks.

OT:
The amount of flights started by loganair can't be done with the current aircraft alone right? Or are they underutilizing the current fleet or keeping the SAAB aircraft longer untill more ATR's arrive?


A lot of the new routes don't begin until high summer. More ATR-42 are due in June AFAIK. Whether or not they extend Saab 340 ops remains to be seen, the 42's are slated to replace these in the fleet though.
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:14 pm

Loganair to take over the Isle of Man to Liverpool route twice daily, seven days a week. This will operate as an interim solution, whilst negations continue over the future of these routes.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/li ... g-17897215

No mention of anyone taking over Isle of Man to Manchester yet.
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Re: Loganair Thread

Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:48 pm

JannEejit wrote:
FlyRow wrote:
Can you two children behave? Thanks.

OT:
The amount of flights started by loganair can't be done with the current aircraft alone right? Or are they underutilizing the current fleet or keeping the SAAB aircraft longer untill more ATR's arrive?


A lot of the new routes don't begin until high summer. More ATR-42 are due in June AFAIK. Whether or not they extend Saab 340 ops remains to be seen, the 42's are slated to replace these in the fleet though.


Thanks! I think the ATR looks good in loganair colours, rugged, bit chubby, no nonsense.
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Re: Loganair Thread

Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:15 pm

Does anyone know why the current sole ATR42 has been so unreliable? Nearly every LCY-IOM flight it has operated recently has been substantially delayed - I get that both airports are prone to bad weather but on the Saabs it was never this bad?
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:43 pm

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Does anyone know why the current sole ATR42 has been so unreliable? Nearly every LCY-IOM flight it has operated recently has been substantially delayed - I get that both airports are prone to bad weather but on the Saabs it was never this bad?


The Saab's have had more than their fair share of issues, believe me. Dispatch rate of ATR's are very reliable, it could be teething problems or as you say bad weather, or a combo of both.
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Re: Loganair Thread

Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:46 pm

JannEejit wrote:
danipawa wrote:
maybe getting some more ATR soon ?


Yes, plenty more on the way. Two ATR-72-600 arrived last week at ABZ, G-FBXA & XB, which were part of the Chorus Aviation folio and most recently operating in full SAS livery. They are both currently in an all white finish and awaiting the Loganair 'tartan lite' livery as seen on the Saab 2000 and certain ERJ's.


Do you know why they won't be getting the full Loganair livery? It would be a shame if the 600's only get the 'tartan lite' livery.
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Re: Loganair Thread

Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:25 pm

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Luftymatt wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
danipawa wrote:
maybe getting some more ATR soon ?


Yes, plenty more on the way. Two ATR-72-600 arrived last week at ABZ, G-FBXA & XB, which were part of the Chorus Aviation folio and most recently operating in full SAS livery. They are both currently in an all white finish and awaiting the Loganair 'tartan lite' livery as seen on the Saab 2000 and certain ERJ's.


Do you know why they won't be getting the full Loganair livery? It would be a shame if the 600's only get the 'tartan lite' livery.


I'm assuming they might get it eventually but there won't be sufficient downtime for now ? Also they are leasing the two 72-600's so don't know what the terms are and for how long ?

This info was taken from a Facebook post their CEO Jonathan Hinkles made last week, albeit before the Flybe implosion. But no doubt with that in mind.
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:32 pm

I am wondering if Loganair might look at taking a few of Flybe's E175'S or Q400 if the leases were reasonable and workable for certain routes? Any chance Logan air will look at some of Flybe's routes to AMS?
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:09 pm

They don’t currently operate the Dash8.

Would operating a new type be an issue?.
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:04 pm

bennett123 wrote:
They don’t currently operate the Dash8.

Would operating a new type be an issue?.

So far they don't seem to have been too fussed with taking on the saab 2000 then the Embraers and now the ATRs (-500 and -600) - and the dash 8s are a whole lot newer than most of the ATRs they'll be taking. Though I doubt they'll buy them cos of the capacity - before the 72-600s joined the largest aircraft in their fleet was 50 seats, so replacing the current fleet and expanding with aircraft with 76 is quite a jump.
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:30 pm

georgiabill wrote:
I am wondering if Loganair might look at taking a few of Flybe's E175'S or Q400 if the leases were reasonable and workable for certain routes? Any chance Logan air will look at some of Flybe's routes to AMS?


At the moment with Loganair it's a case of who knows ?. The Saab 340 renewal plan was only supposed to involve ATR-42's not 72's, other than a single example for freighter work. Just prior to the BMI-R failure they were not planning on being a jet operator either but that's all changed. There was even some local suggestion after the TCX collapse they should acquire a small fleet of A320 or 737's to service the popular sunshine holiday routes that Scots like to travel on.

I think, whatever happens, this is about the biggest Loganair has been in all it's near 60 years of operations.
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:53 pm

georgiabill wrote:
I am wondering if Loganair might look at taking a few of Flybe's E175'S or Q400 if the leases were reasonable and workable for certain routes? Any chance Logan air will look at some of Flybe's routes to AMS?


They won't take any of the Q-400's as they're basing their long term fleet palns around the ATR. A wise choice considering the economics around operating an ATR compared to the Q-400.

As for taking some E175's, personally I think that would be a good idea to at least partially replace the 135's and 145's with. However again I wouldn't say that it was likely that they would take former BE examples, due to the high leasing rates that Flybe had them on.
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Re: Loganair Thread

Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:15 pm

Edinburgh to Wick is going to be axed:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-51870653
 
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Re: Loganair Thread

Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:51 pm

How is Logan Air fairing this season? Are they staying the course with plane acquisitions?
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