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Starup Airline 737-200 Or 737-300?

Sun Aug 29, 1999 7:06 pm

What is the best choice for a startup airline the older 737-200 or the newer 737-300?

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Ciro
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RE: Starup Airline 737-200 Or 737-300?

Sun Aug 29, 1999 10:45 pm

It depends. What sort of airline are you trying to start up?

Considering it is a low-fare airline, I would say, generally speaking, that a smaller and older jet type does the job well.

The 737-200s and DC-9-30s are the most common aircraft for such operations, because of its lower leasing costs. Also, because they carry fewer passengers, the sales executives can manage higher loading factors in the beginning.

However, what I have just said is a broad statement. You should provide me more details regarding the market you are willing to serve to better suit your aircraft needs.  

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RE: Starup Airline 737-200 Or 737-300?

Mon Aug 30, 1999 12:08 am

I would have to agree with Ciro. We do need a little bit more information about the area you plan to service. I would also say the 737-200. Its a nice little plane and is relativey inexpensive. if you plan to fly them though you do need the hushkits cause of noise control which adds a littlke extra to the cost but the 737-200 doesnt overserve markets and affordably flies in one or two class configuration
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RE: Starup Airline 737-200 Or 737-300?

Mon Aug 30, 1999 1:54 am

I know that the first year is the hardest year for a startup airline. So maybe its better to start with an older and cheaper aircraft.
 
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RE: Starup Airline 737-200 Or 737-300?

Mon Aug 30, 1999 2:06 am

Also...what are the EU's rules/guidelines for old, hushkitted aircraft? Did they ban (or will they) all hushkitted aircraft, or did that plan fall through?

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RE: Starup Airline 737-200 Or 737-300?

Mon Aug 30, 1999 5:34 am

A start up company that is properly capitalized would do well to get some 737-300s rather than 200s. Especially in the US, where if you do not have hushkitted 737-200s you won't be able to operate them.

The main reason I'd opt for the 300s or younger aircraft is the maintenance aspect. Not only do maintenance costs impact your ability to keep your ASM cost down, the reliability is bound to be an advantage while a firm is attempting to develop a following in the marketplace.
 
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RE: Starup Airline 737-200 Or 737-300?

Mon Aug 30, 1999 8:08 am

There is no "rule of thumb" when choosing an aircraft. There are massive investments associated with airplane purchase; therefore one must do the proper marketing research (What type of airline are you willing to fly? What is the route network? How much are you going to charge the ticket? What are the promotion strategies? What is the competition doing? ) and constraint analysis (Is the aircraft type available? Are personnel and flight crew available? Can you afford the leasing costs? What are the regulations? ) After answering these questions, you may get a better picture of the equipment you are looking for.

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RE: Lease Deals

Mon Aug 30, 1999 8:18 am

Well I would say the 737-200 is the better choice for the first couple of months. But you need to get it on an ACMI lease and you will need to be careful if that lease extends to finding your passengers a way if the plane has maintenance trouble. But I would say for the long run a 733 would be nice but you said you where from swedish so you might even consider a A320 as you can get parts quicker and the A320 is nicer then both the 732 and the 733. Have you thought about a turbo prop like an ATR 72 or a regional jet like the Avro. I think I make the decsion harder. But you need to have figures before you choose the plane and all the stuff like a route system and a Business plan and then you can analyze all that data and choose the best airplane for you. It might even be a 757.
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