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QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:09 am

Qatar Airways seems to be planning to withdraw the 4-strong A346 fleet in the upcoming months. Currently, these aircraft are typically deployed on the Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Colombo and Rome routes, with some occasional appearances on some shorter regional routes and according that how the S19 schedule is currently filed, the airline is gradually replacing these aircraft between the end of March and the end of April. No more A346 operated flights are apparently programmed from May onwards.

All of QR's four A346 aircraft are currently 12 years old and are flying in a 2 class high density configuration, after being retrofitted a couple of years ago.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:12 am

Did BKK-DOH in one of these last year. Not a bad bird if a little dated.
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:24 am

The quadjet era is ending. Sad but you gotta move towards more fuel efficiency.
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:25 am

Did KUL-DOH on an A346 3 years ago. What I distinctively remember was how incredibly tight the bulkhead seats were. I found that the 77Ws bulkhead seats on my subsequent flight was not as tight, despite all the moans about how horrible those 10-abreast seating were!
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:51 pm

Flew first class in one of these way back when they were new, the lounge onboard was brilliant if not totally unused!
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:07 pm

That a shame to hear they're finally going. I always used to enjoy watching these climb out of Heathrow.

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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:27 pm

HB-IWC wrote:
Qatar Airways seems to be planning to withdraw the 4-strong A346 fleet in the upcoming months. Currently, these aircraft are typically deployed on the Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Colombo and Rome routes, with some occasional appearances on some shorter regional routes and according that how the S19 schedule is currently filed, the airline is gradually replacing these aircraft between the end of March and the end of April. No more A346 operated flights are apparently programmed from May onwards.

All of QR's four A346 aircraft are currently 12 years old and are flying in a 2 class high density configuration, after being retrofitted a couple of years ago.


Just flew on one the other day, and it was one my best flights ever. The plane was in perfect condition, inside and out, and the seats were EXTREMELY comfortable, with plenty of legroom and recline; it certainly didn't feel like a high density configuration. So much better than their A333, which is still nice, but no match for pax comfort - for some reason QR A333s have narrower seats in Y compared to the 346s, as well as noticeably less legroom, and less favorable cabin noise levels. The cabin on the A346 is SOOOO quiet... I'd venture and say quieter even than an A350?
Very sad to see these birds go.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:42 pm

scbriml wrote:
That a shame to hear they're finally going. I always used to enjoy watching these climb out of Heathrow.



Very nice pictures Steve. I hope to go airplane spotting at LHR this summer (July) to catch all the BA retrojets and all the other traffic of course. LHR is my favorite airport!!!! Last time I've been there was in 2002. If you happen to be a local LHR spotter, let me know. Any tips are welcome :)

Back to the topic, I thought the QR 346's were long gone already but they are still flying nowadays? Are they flying a lot of sporadically?

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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:43 pm

KUL was one of the few destinations QR considered when refurbishing this aircraft to a two class configuration including BKK, CMB and FCO. Today, KUL has a mixed variation of Airbus and Boeing aircrafts for their three daily flights. I guess KUL is a very mixed market for them. It is indeed sad to see them go although i must say they are a bit dated, some PTVs are out but the interiors are well maintained and the crew are generally very pleasant.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:03 pm

Very sad to hear this. I wonder how long much longer QR's A330s have got - they still have a decent sized fleet of them and most are older than the A340-600s.

scbriml wrote:
That a shame to hear they're finally going. I always used to enjoy watching these climb out of Heathrow.


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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:50 pm

emuwarveteran wrote:
The quadjet era is ending. Sad but you gotta move towards more fuel efficiency.

Fuel efficiency and maintenance costs. Have any gone through a full heavy maintenance cycle? When introduced, Airbus was proud on acheiving a 12 year cycle. So with some stop click timing, these could just be due for a bunch of differed work. I obviously speculate.

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Late edit:. I had just assumed these were done. Lovely looking aircraft, but they are like certain beautiful people, high care and feeding costs.
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:01 pm

Glad I got to fly one KUL-DOH last year (was originally scheduled as an A330 but it was swapped at the last minute), sat in the window seat at the over-wing exit and had a very pleasant flight, got to deboard by air-stairs in Doha and despite the insane heat it was amazing taking it all in.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:08 pm

scbriml wrote:
That a shame to hear they're finally going. I always used to enjoy watching these climb out of Heathrow.



Such a good looking plane. Still seeing one fly into Marana is my favorite sight. Love the LH colors on the plane.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:19 pm

This will leave Lufthansa as the last operator of all three of the modern heavy quadjets (A340 / A380 / 747).
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:28 pm

Sad to see the most beautiful quad-jet next to Concorde go. But, you gotta move on.
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:16 pm

zkojq wrote:
Very sad to hear this. I wonder how long much longer QR's A330s have got - they still have a decent sized fleet of them and most are older than the A340-600s.

scbriml wrote:
That a shame to hear they're finally going. I always used to enjoy watching these climb out of Heathrow.


Some of the best looking airliners around.


Think the A330’s might have quite a bit longer to go. They were refurbished just a couple of years ago i believe.
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:36 pm

I recall the QR A346's were at one point rumoured to go to AR, shame that didn't happen.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:37 pm

I recall the QR A346's were at one point rumoured to go to AR, shame that didn't happen.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:39 pm

HB-IWC wrote:
Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Colombo and Rome

What aircraft will be used for these routes after the retirement of the A346s?
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:02 pm

QR was using the 346 High Density on the DOH-ALG before the airline was banned from Saudi airspace. Now QR is using the 788
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:08 pm

EddieDude wrote:
HB-IWC wrote:
Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, Colombo and Rome

What aircraft will be used for these routes after the retirement of the A346s?


A359 or A35K. At least some of this will use JJ-configured A359s.

As for the A346s, could any end up with QAF? They tend to keep their planes around for a long time.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:30 pm

I booked flights for May/June on DOH-BKK-DOH and was looking forward to some more A346 flights, but sadly it's now been swapped to A332......... :banghead:

Have already flown on A7-AGA, A7-AGB and A7-AGD I was hoping to get to fly on A7-AGC.... Sadly it now looks like I'll never get the chance
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:51 pm

Sad to read this. I did three flights on QR's A346, and they are among my best flights. Very smooth and silent to fly. Awesome looking wings. I will not forget the sunrise reflecting on these wings while on approach to DOH. From what I can read on the database, these four planes were delivered in 2006 and 2007. I hope they get to see a second home.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:21 pm

Can Iran Air get these birds?
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed May 01, 2019 5:16 pm

Looks like Qatar has made their last A340-600 flight; QR835 from Bangkok to Doha; arrival at 00:13 on May 1st.
They had 4 A340-600 aircraft; A7-AGA, -AGB, -AGC and -AGD.
A7-AGA has been painted in Rome between April 1 and 8 in a white livery with "Training" titles on it and is now back at Doha: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1419987

And this very moment; A7-AGB is making her very last flight from Doha to Twente (Netherlands) where she will be scrapped at AELS:
https://www.flightradar24.com/QTR3251/205aa407

Looks like she is landing in about an hour or so...

(AELS so far has scrapped 2 KLM 747-400's, 2 Air France A340-300, 1 Swiss A340-300 and 2 TUI 737's.)
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed May 01, 2019 6:10 pm

Any chance of being sold to IB,VS,LH.....?
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed May 01, 2019 6:15 pm

Kadish wrote:
Any chance of being sold to IB,VS,LH.....?


I doubt it sadly. LH look to be withdrawing A346s alongside A343s, and Virgin's A340s are scheduled to be gone by the end of the year following a few A350 deliveries, resolution of 787 issues and addition of the 4 A332 frames. 747s will stick around longer than the 340s at Virgin. Not sure about Iberia, they are the best bet but they seem to have more than enough fleet coverage with the new A350s and extended A340 fleet operation
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed May 01, 2019 6:32 pm

All four were once a common sight at Heathrow. A shame to see them go.

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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed May 01, 2019 6:42 pm

Qatar A340s are my favorite birds. Breaks my heart to see them go so young. So many memories of the onboard lounge and those First Class cabins! I’ll have to find a new User Name now; moderators!
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed May 01, 2019 8:31 pm

Qatara340 wrote:
Qatar A340s are my favorite birds. Breaks my heart to see them go so young. So many memories of the onboard lounge and those First Class cabins! I’ll have to find a new User Name now; moderators!


How about SheikhDjibouti. Oh wait that's taken.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Wed May 01, 2019 8:46 pm

What aircraft is being deployed on the A346 routes?

A330 or A350?
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Thu May 02, 2019 2:14 am

Slash787 wrote:
What aircraft is being deployed on the A346 routes?

A330 or A350?


Well KUL is currently 2x 77W and 1x A333.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Thu May 02, 2019 8:40 am

Slash787 wrote:
What aircraft is being deployed on the A346 routes?

A330 or A350?


I'm booked to fly on QR836/837 middle of this month and start of next month and the A346 has been swapped to A333. Over the last 12 months I'd had 3 out of the 4 A346 on those flights
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Thu May 02, 2019 8:57 am

Qatara340 wrote:
Qatar A340s are my favorite birds. Breaks my heart to see them go so young. So many memories of the onboard lounge and those First Class cabins! I’ll have to find a new User Name now; moderators!


How about Qatara351 ?
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Thu May 02, 2019 12:51 pm

Sad day.
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Thu May 02, 2019 4:20 pm

What a pity Mahan couldn't take these fab quad-jets, or someone else in Iran.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Thu May 02, 2019 7:25 pm

I drove to Enschede yesterday to capture this sad moment. A pity it arrived quite late, when the sun had nearly set:

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I flew A7-AGB only back in December. So sad to see these beautiful aircraft being retired.
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Thu May 02, 2019 7:49 pm

MaxiAir wrote:
I drove to Enschede yesterday to capture this sad moment. A pity it arrived quite late, when the sun had nearly set:

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I like the golden-hour light on that pic a lot.

Several years ago I got a (low-res) shot of an A380, 747, and an A340 all side by side, I think at DFW. Not a sight you'll likely see again, sadly.
 
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Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

Thu May 02, 2019 8:12 pm

Perhaps the best widebody ever in terms of passenger experience. A shame that it couldn't remain competitive. We can blame two things: 1) excessive airframe weight (largely thanks to stretching this cross section a bit farther than it should have gone) and 2) the orphan engines, which became expensive to maintain (worsened by there being 4 of them) and didn't receive any performance improvements.

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