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Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:31 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47392300

Others are keeping flying but not Thai it seems.
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe

Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:38 pm

Weird... Methinks there must be an easy way around Pakistan. Is Saudi Arabia also closed airspace for Thai flights? But even so, India, Arabian Sea, Iran and Turkey should fix it... Must be more behind this.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe

Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:58 pm

Air Canada has also suspended flights to India.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... wned-jets/
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe

Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:23 pm

MalevTU134 wrote:
Weird... Methinks there must be an easy way around Pakistan. Is Saudi Arabia also closed airspace for Thai flights? But even so, India, Arabian Sea, Iran and Turkey should fix it... Must be more behind this.


Its not weird. As per their facebook page they are awaiting airspace authorisation for an alternative route to operate these services

https://www.facebook.com/ThaiAirways/po ... 9721547293
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:06 pm

others have found another route once in the air, but diverted (for refuelling)

KLM diverted to Bucharest:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... d#1fa26a03

same for Air France:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 5#1fa26255

Bucharest seems to be popular:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 0#1fa2574a

Swiss diverted to Muscat:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 1#1fa280f3

Finnair 142 ended up in Dubai, while 144 is going to Moscow:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 2#1fa21c61
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 4#1fa3db01
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:15 pm

Today's EVA to LHR also returned to BKK just before entering Indian airspace.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:01 pm

Flightradar24 is an interesting sight right now. No plane visible over Pakistan at all. But the routes between the Persian Gulf and India super busy. Fligths from Europe to Delhi take some detour and come in from the south via Surat.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:23 pm

It might be an error on their part, but FlightRadar24 is showing one flight over Pakistan:

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It might be a mistake, but the rest of the screen is showing a great big void over Pakistan and Afghanistan.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:00 pm

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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:04 pm

PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
It might be an error on their part, but FlightRadar24 is showing one flight over Pakistan:

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It might be a mistake, but the rest of the screen is showing a great big void over Pakistan and Afghanistan.

That's an error. It went around Pakistan to the south and is headed back north towards India right now: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AZA ... /LIRF/VIDP
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:29 pm

PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
It might be an error on their part, but FlightRadar24 is showing one flight over Pakistan:

Image

It might be a mistake, but the rest of the screen is showing a great big void over Pakistan and Afghanistan.


It is taking the last known position of the aircraft and plotting the most direct path from it to its destination, so the aircraft was unlikely where it said it was at that time.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:48 pm

Man, we book so much corporate travel into and out of India from the US,
this could become a steaming bowl of not good if those flights get suspended,
even for a short time :(
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:49 pm

duplicate post :(
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Wed Feb 27, 2019 10:00 pm

FA9295 wrote:
PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
It might be an error on their part, but FlightRadar24 is showing one flight over Pakistan:

Image

It might be a mistake, but the rest of the screen is showing a great big void over Pakistan and Afghanistan.

That's an error. It went around Pakistan to the south and is headed back north towards India right now: https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AZA ... /LIRF/VIDP


I imagined as such. This flight must have continued on its original flight plan, deviating to get around Pakistan. I can understand that FR would continue to calculate the most direct path, whereas later flights would have filed a different flight path, hence why there are no other planes visible over Pakistan.

Is Afghani airspace closed? I see nothing over their skies, not even domestic.

Looks like the Iranians are extra-busy today!!
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:34 am

Why is the Afghani airspace closed?
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:07 am

LH658 wrote:
Why is the Afghani airspace closed?


It's not, but Afghan high level airspace is procedural and almost all of the airways through Afghanistan route through Pakistan.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:15 am

I believe these diversions where originated by the fact that those flights were already in the air when the detours were advised. Thus, flight plans changed dramatically and jets had no the needed fuel for the detours.

Now several airlines have made their way from Europe to Thailand with little impact:

BA from LHR
AF from CDG
DY from ARN (to KBV)
AY from HEL to both BKK and KBV

The decision made by Thai Airways sounds rather too tough considering current situation.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:14 am

Karachi airspace may be in jeopardy, there are several reports of an impending threat. Both Pakistan and Indian navies are on guard, PAF has also dispatched aircraft with anti-ship weapons into the area. Several sonic booms of PAF jets have been heard from within the city as they get into position over the water. Airlines should stay far from this area, the risk of another shootdown is imminent if things do not cool down fast. Situation is currently extremely dangerous and tense in the area.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:36 am

sonicruiser wrote:
Karachi airspace may be in jeopardy, there are several reports of an impending threat. Both Pakistan and Indian navies are on guard, PAF has also dispatched aircraft with anti-ship weapons into the area. Several sonic booms of PAF jets have been heard from within the city as they get into position over the water. Airlines should stay far from this area, the risk of another shootdown is imminent if things do not cool down fast. Situation is currently extremely dangerous and tense in the area.


Over water airway L639 in Mumbai FIR VABF is NOTAM closed for this very reason. It is too close to Karachi OPKR FIR. All traffic tansitioning the Indian Ocean via Mumbai FIR are required to file via L301 and south UFN.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:05 am

sonicruiser wrote:
Karachi airspace may be in jeopardy, there are several reports of an impending threat. Both Pakistan and Indian navies are on guard, PAF has also dispatched aircraft with anti-ship weapons into the area. Several sonic booms of PAF jets have been heard from within the city as they get into position over the water. Airlines should stay far from this area, the risk of another shootdown is imminent if things do not cool down fast. Situation is currently extremely dangerous and tense in the area.


Lahore is eerily quiet on the other hand.
 
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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:47 am

Chaklala wrote:
sonicruiser wrote:
Karachi airspace may be in jeopardy, there are several reports of an impending threat. Both Pakistan and Indian navies are on guard, PAF has also dispatched aircraft with anti-ship weapons into the area. Several sonic booms of PAF jets have been heard from within the city as they get into position over the water. Airlines should stay far from this area, the risk of another shootdown is imminent if things do not cool down fast. Situation is currently extremely dangerous and tense in the area.


Lahore is eerily quiet on the other hand.


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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe

Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:35 am

dcajet wrote:
Air Canada has also suspended flights to India.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... wned-jets/


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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:36 am

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