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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:40 pm

barney captain wrote:
The first revenue flight is airborne -

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA6808

Thanks for the link. Hope you get the opportunity to head over soon.
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:47 pm

i thought the first flight was 808 (clever, btw)
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:22 pm

STLflyer wrote:
Load restrictions are likely temporary until they have some data on just what their planes are capable of.

IIRC, Qantas' PER-LHR flight began with load restrictions but they were slowly lifted as QF had more real world performance data.


Correct.

Like most of the concerns by a certain poster above it’s a short-term, temporary issue.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:23 pm

tomaheath wrote:
barney captain wrote:
The first revenue flight is airborne -

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA6808

Thanks for the link. Hope you get the opportunity to head over soon.


Thanks - first week in April. ;)
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:28 pm

usxguy wrote:
i thought the first flight was 808 (clever, btw)


It becomes flight 808 tomorrow.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:35 pm

I'd only assume that it's done by a 737-800NG. Would they switch to a 737 MAX once the groundings have been lifted (that being said, finalize the cause of ET302 crash and fix the MCAS)?
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:09 pm

Silver1SWA wrote:
usxguy wrote:
i thought the first flight was 808 (clever, btw)


It becomes flight 808 tomorrow.

Why the switch from 6808 to 808?
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:19 pm

6808 is a one off flight (remains in HNL overnight turning around to fly to OAK tomorrow)

I am on this flight now, which had to have 10 seats blocked (plus zero SWAcargo) in order to land with proper fuel reserves. Captain said in a week or so they may be able to unblock a few seats.

WN has 4 certified etops check pilots as of this morning. Two are inishing up their approval on this flight, and two more will be certified tomorrow on the way back to OAK.

At the gate party in OAK we talked to a captain (not flying till Tuesday) that flew the FAA ETOPS proving run to OGG. Diverted to Hilo after "depressurizing" flying at 10k feet and burnkng tons of extra fuel. Other scenarios tested on tabletop exercises (but not chosen by FAA the day of test flight) included a bomb threat, medical emergency, and lithium ion battery fire in cabin or cargo hold.

Today thus far has been a big party flight with hula dancers in the aisle, etc. only complaint is wifi horrible but that is par for the course on UA to Hawaii as well.
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:12 am

Wow! An enroute report.
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:16 am

With regard to the lack of eastbound connections, California is a big market, and can fill these flights without connections. So not to worry.

Eventually, I assume their work rules and infrastructure will allow red-eyes or more early departures that will be able to connect over California to points East, to serve the WN faithful there.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:40 am

I was there working the inbound. I didn’t take photos this time. Instead I wanted to be a participant. I’m so happy to be a part of this special moment for the company and thankful for the opportunity.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:51 am

STLflyer wrote:
Silver1SWA wrote:
usxguy wrote:
i thought the first flight was 808 (clever, btw)


It becomes flight 808 tomorrow.

Why the switch from 6808 to 808?

808 is Hawaii's area code. The better question is why the first flight was 6808.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:46 am

altairF28 wrote:
STLflyer wrote:
Silver1SWA wrote:

It becomes flight 808 tomorrow.

Why the switch from 6808 to 808?

808 is Hawaii's area code. The better question is why the first flight was 6808.


As noted above today’s flight was a one-off flight not consistent with the daily flights that begin tomorrow. Flight numbers in the 6000s are used for unique flights such as ferry flights, charters etc. so 6808 was used to differentiate from the daily flights that start tomorrow.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:59 am

expert7700 wrote:
6808 is a one off flight (remains in HNL overnight turning around to fly to OAK tomorrow)

I am on this flight now, which had to have 10 seats blocked (plus zero SWAcargo) in order to land with proper fuel reserves. Captain said in a week or so they may be able to unblock a few seats.

WN has 4 certified etops check pilots as of this morning. Two are inishing up their approval on this flight, and two more will be certified tomorrow on the way back to OAK.

At the gate party in OAK we talked to a captain (not flying till Tuesday) that flew the FAA ETOPS proving run to OGG. Diverted to Hilo after "depressurizing" flying at 10k feet and burnkng tons of extra fuel. Other scenarios tested on tabletop exercises (but not chosen by FAA the day of test flight) included a bomb threat, medical emergency, and lithium ion battery fire in cabin or cargo hold.

Today thus far has been a big party flight with hula dancers in the aisle, etc. only complaint is wifi horrible but that is par for the course on UA to Hawaii as well.


I’ve heard so many complaints about UA’s WiFi to/from Hawaii but I’ve never had issues. I mostly fly on their 753s and 77As.

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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:20 am

Maksvell88 wrote:
Wow. So which airline will suffer the most from this??? I feel Alaska is squeezed


Care to elaborate on that? WN will do great with their Hawaii routes, but AS has gone toe-to-toe with them in plenty of other markets and come out just fine. They've also got over a decade of Hawaii flying under their belts and an established presence in the market, I don't think they're sweating WN's arrival too hard.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:38 am

Silver1SWA wrote:
I was there working the inbound. I didn’t take photos this time. Instead I wanted to be a participant. I’m so happy to be a part of this special moment for the company and thankful for the opportunity.

Congratulations. Hope everything went well
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:11 am

77H wrote:
expert7700 wrote:
6808 is a one off flight (remains in HNL overnight turning around to fly to OAK tomorrow)

I am on this flight now, which had to have 10 seats blocked (plus zero SWAcargo) in order to land with proper fuel reserves. Captain said in a week or so they may be able to unblock a few seats.

WN has 4 certified etops check pilots as of this morning. Two are inishing up their approval on this flight, and two more will be certified tomorrow on the way back to OAK.

At the gate party in OAK we talked to a captain (not flying till Tuesday) that flew the FAA ETOPS proving run to OGG. Diverted to Hilo after "depressurizing" flying at 10k feet and burnkng tons of extra fuel. Other scenarios tested on tabletop exercises (but not chosen by FAA the day of test flight) included a bomb threat, medical emergency, and lithium ion battery fire in cabin or cargo hold.

Today thus far has been a big party flight with hula dancers in the aisle, etc. only complaint is wifi horrible but that is par for the course on UA to Hawaii as well.


I’ve heard so many complaints about UA’s WiFi to/from Hawaii but I’ve never had issues. I mostly fly on their 753s and 77As.

77H


It sounds like WiFi over the ocean is a bit of a concern regardless of the carrier and regardless of whether it's TATL or TPAC. Then again, I've never flown overseas, so hopefully someone can confirm or repudiate my theory.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:42 pm

barney captain wrote:
Except we aren't using the MAX for HI - we're using NG -800's.


They are ETOPs as well, though, right?
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:16 pm

barney captain wrote:

Thanks - first week in April. ;)


A friend of mine is a PHX based captain and his comment was "sounds like too much work, I'm content flying up and down the coast all day." For the record he didn't have an explanation about how one ETOPS leg was more work than a six leg day around California. :lol:
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:21 am

The only planes that are ETOPS qualified are the 738s and not sure how many they equipped for ETOPS Operations.
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:33 am

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The only planes that are ETOPS qualified are the 738s and not sure how many they equipped for ETOPS Operations.


28 are ETOPS ready, 4 are currently ETOPS certified.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:55 am

Boof02671 wrote:


ATDB says 207
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:01 am

n471wn wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:


ATDB says 207



you really want to argue about a difference of less than 00.5% in the 738 fleet?
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:11 am

I believe in accuracy and no argument intended
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:19 am

I believe in accuracy and no argument intended
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:21 am

Southwest.com is showing most all flights ex-OAK completely sold out in April and May. It seems highly unlikely that flights completely sold out so quickly (there was wide open availability two days ago). Is this an inventory management move? Or, is there some operational consideration that led them to stop selling seats?
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:42 am

Onboard todays inaugural HNL-OAK on N8329B

Despite the HUGE fleet constraints with the mechanics dispute and MAX grounding, Southwest brought in a spare plane N8326F last night. Reportedly it will remain in Hawaii all this week so that the launch week goes without a mechanical cancellation snag. Expensive insurance.
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:58 am

swacle wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
The only planes that are ETOPS qualified are the 738s and not sure how many they equipped for ETOPS Operations.


28 are ETOPS ready, 4 are currently ETOPS certified.


Would you have a list of those tail numbers?
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:27 am

n471wn wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:


ATDB says 207

And I provided a link with facts, you didn’t.
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:36 am

ATDB is a subscription site and trust me they have the right numbers but no need to argue further so we need to move on
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:15 am

KLMatSJC wrote:
swacle wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:
The only planes that are ETOPS qualified are the 738s and not sure how many they equipped for ETOPS Operations.


28 are ETOPS ready, 4 are currently ETOPS certified.


Would you have a list of those tail numbers?


It’s all if the N83 tail numbers. N8301-N8329. There is no N8304.

N8326-N8329 are the ones active at the moment.

As for those debating the total -800 fleet, it is 207 airplanes.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:20 am

Flight 6808 OAK-HNL was a blast. Felt like a party with a great buzz. Hardly used my phone since we were all talking and having fun during the flight. Did do some messaging on fb and instagram and tv worked well. Some reported movies buffering for a while and internet was spotty at best. However with all the employees and guests/media on board the wifi user pool was significantly higher than normal. Loved the new pineapple-orange with spiced rum, had a couple. Was loaded up with giveaways on both ends of the flight.

Flight 6569 from HNL-OAK today was very quick, smooth, and more low key. WN still had live music and dance at the gate, did trivia, gave us gift bags with different content, and did give leis. Boarding outside in HNL was awesome. Got amazing pictures of the wing and Oahu on take off. Wifi was blazing fast the entire return flight, I had no issues. I sent and uploaded a lot of pictures and browsed SM the whole flight.

Great job on the launch Southwest!!!
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:38 am

expert7700 wrote:
Onboard todays inaugural HNL-OAK on N8329B

Despite the HUGE fleet constraints with the mechanics dispute and MAX grounding, Southwest brought in a spare plane N8326F last night. Reportedly it will remain in Hawaii all this week so that the launch week goes without a mechanical cancellation snag. Expensive insurance.


N8329B operated yesterday’s inaugural OAK-HNL flight, remained overnight and carried out today’s inaugural HNL-OAK flight.
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:54 am

chrisair wrote:
barney captain wrote:

Thanks - first week in April. ;)


A friend of mine is a PHX based captain and his comment was "sounds like too much work, I'm content flying up and down the coast all day." For the record he didn't have an explanation about how one ETOPS leg was more work than a six leg day around California. :lol:



Yea, I hear that a lot - usually from guys based in places other than OAK/LAX who won't be doing the etops flying anyway ;)

Oh, and your assumption that 6 legs is more work than one etops leg - is spot on. :bigthumbsup:
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:09 pm

This is, I believe, the only active thread about WN to HI and I wanted to re-post something that I just posted elsewhere that I think might relate to the question of connecting service to destinations beyond the gateways on the west coast (CA.) Since red-eyes are not yet offered by WN, can pax get beyond CA to other destinations without flying all night?

I do not know about OAK skeds but I am very familiar with WN skeds at SAN. It may come as a surprise to many but lately WN has been adding frequencies to many of our 36 destinations served from SAN, and a surprising number are at night. These are not red-eyes as such but take a look at departure times of some of SAN's flights (on the June 2019 schedule)
:
>ABQ 9:00pm (7)
>AUS 7:00pm (X6)
>BWI 5:00pm (X6)
>CHI 7:00pm (X67)
>DAL 6:35 pm (DLY)
>DEN 9:15pm (DLY) & 10:30pm (X6)
>HOU 7:50pm (X7)
>MCI 8:45pm (7)
>LAS 9:35pm (DLY) & 10:50pm (X6)
>BNA 6:10pm (7)
>PHX 8:10pm (X67) & 10:00pm (67)
>PDX 9:40pm (X6)
>RNO 10:10pm (X6)
>STL 8:20pm (7)
>SLC 8:30pm (X67)
>SAT 9:10pm (DLY)
>SFO 9:50pm (X6)
>TUS 9:25pm (X6)

As I've watched WN adding these late departure times, I've scratched my head at some of them. Now they might make sense. Assuming WN skeds flights from the Islands to SAN at the same as they have to OAK and SJC, with arrivals in CA about 5-6pm, pax to about 17 destinations beyond SAN could be home without flying through the night and with a single change of plane!

This may also be the case with OAK and SJC but I'm not sure. I could also see WN adding more destinations with evening departures, without true red-eyes if this idea works.

I have no idea if or when WN will activate SAN-Hawaii service but it seems to me there would be some nice benefits to the carrier if they do.

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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:27 pm

Boof02671 wrote:
n471wn wrote:
Boof02671 wrote:


ATDB says 207

And I provided a link with facts, you didn’t.


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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:23 pm

SANFan wrote:
This is, I believe, the only active thread about WN to HI and I wanted to re-post something that I just posted elsewhere that I think might relate to the question of connecting service to destinations beyond the gateways on the west coast (CA.) Since red-eyes are not yet offered by WN, can pax get beyond CA to other destinations without flying all night?

I do not know about OAK skeds but I am very familiar with WN skeds at SAN. It may come as a surprise to many but lately WN has been adding frequencies to many of our 36 destinations served from SAN, and a surprising number are at night. These are not red-eyes as such but take a look at departure times of some of SAN's flights (on the June 2019 schedule)
:
>ABQ 9:00pm (7)
>AUS 7:00pm (X6)
>BWI 5:00pm (X6)
>CHI 7:00pm (X67)
>DAL 6:35 pm (DLY)
>DEN 9:15pm (DLY) & 10:30pm (X6)
>HOU 7:50pm (X7)
>MCI 8:45pm (7)
>LAS 9:35pm (DLY) & 10:50pm (X6)
>BNA 6:10pm (7)
>PHX 8:10pm (X67) & 10:00pm (67)
>PDX 9:40pm (X6)
>RNO 10:10pm (X6)
>STL 8:20pm (7)
>SLC 8:30pm (X67)
>SAT 9:10pm (DLY)
>SFO 9:50pm (X6)
>TUS 9:25pm (X6)

As I've watched WN adding these late departure times, I've scratched my head at some of them. Now they might make sense. Assuming WN skeds flights from the Islands to SAN at the same as they have to OAK and SJC, with arrivals in CA about 5-6pm, pax to about 17 destinations beyond SAN could be home without flying through the night and with a single change of plane!

This may also be the case with OAK and SJC but I'm not sure. I could also see WN adding more destinations with evening departures, without true red-eyes if this idea works.

I have no idea if or when WN will activate SAN-Hawaii service but it seems to me there would be some nice benefits to the carrier if they do.

bb


Good catch! I've noticed a few adds to OAK that leave for destinations in the Central time zone around 545-630p...usually leaving about a 45 minute connection time from their HI flights to destinations out east (ie. DAL, AUS, etc).

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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:31 pm

SANFan wrote:
This is, I believe, the only active thread about WN to HI and I wanted to re-post something that I just posted elsewhere that I think might relate to the question of connecting service to destinations beyond the gateways on the west coast (CA.) Since red-eyes are not yet offered by WN, can pax get beyond CA to other destinations without flying all night?

I do not know about OAK skeds but I am very familiar with WN skeds at SAN. It may come as a surprise to many but lately WN has been adding frequencies to many of our 36 destinations served from SAN, and a surprising number are at night. These are not red-eyes as such but take a look at departure times of some of SAN's flights (on the June 2019 schedule)
:
>ABQ 9:00pm (7)
>AUS 7:00pm (X6)
>BWI 5:00pm (X6)
>CHI 7:00pm (X67)
>DAL 6:35 pm (DLY)
>DEN 9:15pm (DLY) & 10:30pm (X6)
>HOU 7:50pm (X7)
>MCI 8:45pm (7)
>LAS 9:35pm (DLY) & 10:50pm (X6)
>BNA 6:10pm (7)
>PHX 8:10pm (X67) & 10:00pm (67)
>PDX 9:40pm (X6)
>RNO 10:10pm (X6)
>STL 8:20pm (7)
>SLC 8:30pm (X67)
>SAT 9:10pm (DLY)
>SFO 9:50pm (X6)
>TUS 9:25pm (X6)

As I've watched WN adding these late departure times, I've scratched my head at some of them. Now they might make sense. Assuming WN skeds flights from the Islands to SAN at the same as they have to OAK and SJC, with arrivals in CA about 5-6pm, pax to about 17 destinations beyond SAN could be home without flying through the night and with a single change of plane!

This may also be the case with OAK and SJC but I'm not sure. I could also see WN adding more destinations with evening departures, without true red-eyes if this idea works.

I have no idea if or when WN will activate SAN-Hawaii service but it seems to me there would be some nice benefits to the carrier if they do.

bb


Nice work, SAN.

In the “good ole days”, so to speak, we used to be able to read a schedule of all flights from a particular airport without having to write one ourselves. Is there any easy way to see, for example, all WN flights from one particular airport?
 
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:31 am

Looks like Southwest snuck in a schedule change for HNL/OGG on 6 August.

New flight times:
HNL/OGG -> 700AM, 1000AM, 405PM, 700PM (prev 935AM, 125PM, 440PM, 650PM)
OGG/HNL-> 830AM, 1135AM, 220PM, 545PM (prev 800AM, 1150AM, 305PM, 620PM)
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Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:24 pm

AirFiero wrote:
In the “good ole days”, so to speak, we used to be able to read a schedule of all flights from a particular airport without having to write one ourselves. Is there any easy way to see, for example, all WN flights from one particular airport?


In answer to this question, yes. Discussed in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1420085

Link to the site:
https://www.flightsfrom.com
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Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos