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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:24 am

pune wrote:
maint123 wrote:

Btw, does anybody know when T1 C/D will be broken down and be made into a simpler T1. Any sort of timeline take on that ?

In the next 2-3 years. Work has started.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:14 am

unrave wrote:
IndiGo has announced further codeshares with TK: PRG,VIE and ZRH.
(Some Ameerpet Amreekan was telling us no codeshare would be approved by the regulators which has turned out to be fake news as usual)


I really, really wish there was a way to upvote posts in this forum.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:40 am

trinidadeG wrote:
pune wrote:
Btw, does anybody know when T1 C/D will be broken down and be made into a simpler T1. Any sort of timeline take on that ?

Heres an article from February.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi-ne ... VfjkI.html

Posting some relevant excerpts...

  • Departure Terminal T1D and arrival Terminal T1C will be merged and expanded to accommodate 40 million passengers per year.
  • Work is expected to begin by March-end as the airport operator has received three bids for the Rs 9,000-crore project.
  • The operator expects the expansion, which will start with Terminal 1, to be completed by 2021
  • “Terminal 1 handles domestic traffic for low-cost carriers. Delhi Metro under its Phase 3 programme is connecting this terminal to catchment areas of central and south Delhi."

Render of the upcoming terminal picked from the internet.

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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:11 pm

trinidadeG wrote:
[list][*]Departure Terminal T1D and arrival Terminal T1C will be merged and expanded to accommodate 40 million passengers per year.

[*]Work is expected to begin by March-end as the airport operator has received three bids for the Rs 9,000-crore project.


L&T has won the bid
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:23 pm

6E DEL-IST suffers engine failure, diverts to KWI.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//ar ... =TOIMobile

Just about time, I think !! I seriously feel sorry for pax already flying cattle class long haul
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:34 pm

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6E DEL-IST suffers engine failure, diverts to KWI.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//ar ... =TOIMobile

Just about time, I think !! I seriously feel sorry for pax already flying cattle class long haul

We went more than 2 months without a IndiGo engine failure. It was long due
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:45 pm

anshabhi wrote:
6E DEL-IST suffers engine failure, diverts to KWI.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//ar ... =TOIMobile

Just about time, I think !! I seriously feel sorry for pax already flying cattle class long haul


TBH the pax who had booked knew well what was going to happen with them i e what product they'll get in LCC long haul . In other news TK will down gauge IST-DEL to a 787-9 from a 77W . Clearly means that TK has lost some pax to 6E (although that's good for TK ) . Slowly you'll see more FS
airlines which provide cheap fares for India - EU (Kuwait airways etc) will partner with LCCs for India segments . The days of getting pampered by middle east carriers will be gone and flyers will get what they pay for.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:55 pm

chinmay17shetye wrote:
unrave wrote:
IndiGo has announced further codeshares with TK: PRG,VIE and ZRH.
(Some Ameerpet Amreekan was telling us no codeshare would be approved by the regulators which has turned out to be fake news as usual)


I really, really wish there was a way to upvote posts in this forum.


I have wished that a hundred times. There have been so many helpful posts and insights. It doesn't seem fair to just do +1 to it.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:13 pm

anshabhi wrote:
6E DEL-IST suffers engine failure, diverts to KWI.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//ar ... =TOIMobile

Just about time, I think !! I seriously feel sorry for pax already flying cattle class long haul


It is amazing someting as little as this makes the newspaper. Are there any trip reports about this flight? Seems like torture to me. At least Norwegian was flying modern 787s on many transatlantic flights (with good food for purchase and IFE). A 737 with no IFE seems like a coffin.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:34 pm

CaliguyNYC wrote:
anshabhi wrote:
6E DEL-IST suffers engine failure, diverts to KWI.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//ar ... =TOIMobile

Just about time, I think !! I seriously feel sorry for pax already flying cattle class long haul


It is amazing someting as little as this makes the newspaper. Are there any trip reports about this flight? Seems like torture to me. At least Norwegian was flying modern 787s on many transatlantic flights (with good food for purchase and IFE). A 737 with no IFE seems like a coffin.


They are using the same A320s that they use for 1 hour flights for this flight :mad: as close to a flying coffin as you can get.

this is one trip report: https://livefromalounge.boardingarea.co ... -istanbul/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:36 pm

CaliguyNYC wrote:
anshabhi wrote:
6E DEL-IST suffers engine failure, diverts to KWI.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com//ar ... =TOIMobile

Just about time, I think !! I seriously feel sorry for pax already flying cattle class long haul


It is amazing someting as little as this makes the newspaper. Are there any trip reports about this flight? Seems like torture to me. At least Norwegian was flying modern 787s on many transatlantic flights (with good food for purchase and IFE). A 737 with no IFE seems like a coffin.


agree with the above. I recently met two women who had taken a 17 hour flight, she had shared to somewhere but has since slipped my mind, this was without IFE but because they were two women it didn't seem too bad. For a single person though (like me) , it would be torture. With IFE we at least have a movie or two to look, sleep, have food etc. How does even survive without food for 17 hours. Indigo and others are going to make lot of money on foods and all. On my recent trip to Delhi and back, I noticed that at least 2-3 passengers from every row ordered food so at least 60 - 90 people spent money on 'extra premium food extra salty food ' . And this is for a 2 hour flight. So a 17 hour flight without an IFE would basically have people ordering food left, right and center as you can't really have a conversation in the air (pressure on the ear drums) and there is/would be nothing else to do. I do forsee lot of air rage happening on these flights more than ever.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:40 pm

Btw, did anybody report this https://twitter.com/shukla_tarun/status ... 6713581568

Basically in three weeks Mumbai re-carpeting of the runway was done with 600 workers, in time for the peak season. Although one of the commentators did share that something will happen in 2020, although he did not mention what ? Does anybody know what he was talking about ?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:17 am

IndiGo has secured slots in the summer schedule at STN and BHX. It will fly from DEL and BLR to STN and from ATQ to BHX
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:53 am

unrave wrote:
IndiGo has secured slots in the summer schedule at STN and BHX. It will fly from DEL and BLR to STN and from ATQ to BHX


via IST? Well this will be a real human endurance test.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:06 am

unrave wrote:
IndiGo has secured slots in the summer schedule at STN and BHX. It will fly from DEL and BLR to STN and from ATQ to BHX

Amritsar to Birmingham and Delhi/Bangalore to Luton is Brilliant, IMO. Especially BLR; giving one stop UK access to a lot of South Indian airports!
I suppose these will tech-halt at IST?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:22 am

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Amritsar to Birmingham and Delhi/Bangalore to Luton is Brilliant, IMO. Especially BLR; giving one stop UK access to a lot of South Indian airports!
I suppose these will tech-halt at IST?

Stansted, not Luton. There will be a fuel stop, but there have been multiple airports rumoured for the stop
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:43 am

unrave wrote:
IndiGo has secured slots in the summer schedule at STN and BHX. It will fly from DEL and BLR to STN and from ATQ to BHX
Summer schedule has already begun and no word from IndiGo's side...winter maybe?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:50 am

CPS001 wrote:
unrave wrote:
IndiGo has secured slots in the summer schedule at STN and BHX. It will fly from DEL and BLR to STN and from ATQ to BHX
Summer schedule has already begun and no word from IndiGo's side...winter maybe?

They have only secured slots, there's no telling when or even if they'll start the flights. They had previously obtained slots at LGW but did not announce flights.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:19 am

unrave wrote:
IndiGo has secured slots in the summer schedule at STN and BHX. It will fly from DEL and BLR to STN and from ATQ to BHX


Just in time when AI halted operation...
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:26 am

The slots won't get used. Spicejet have applied for slots at MAN and London for the past 2 years and never used them, this year will be no different.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:39 am

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The slots won't get used. Spicejet have applied for slots at MAN and London for the past 2 years and never used them, this year will be no different.

Are airlines allowed to do the same with UDAN ? Can they secure a route and never begin service ? UDAN-3 was announced recently right, till when can any airline delay starting the service ? Ex. MYQ-COK by alliance air is an UDAN 3 route but no word on booking till now.
Please explain . Thanks!


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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:29 am

I don't know how the Indian slot system works but in the UK airlines can request slots and hand them back reasonably freely without using them.

Heathrow has a 'use them or loose them' policy due to its constrained nature however.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:42 am

IndiaKerala wrote:
Are airlines allowed to do the same with UDAN ? Can they secure a route and never begin service ? UDAN-3 was announced recently right, till when can any airline delay starting the service ? Ex. MYQ-COK by alliance air is an UDAN 3 route but no word on booking till now.
Please explain . Thanks!

At present there is no defined policy on timeframe within which winning airlines are required to start ops under UDAN. That is why you see so many awarded routes remaining unserved.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:38 pm

unrave wrote:
IndiGo has secured slots in the summer schedule at STN and BHX. It will fly from DEL and BLR to STN and from ATQ to BHX


Do they still have LGW slots?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:11 pm

anshabhi wrote:
unrave wrote:
IndiGo has secured slots in the summer schedule at STN and BHX. It will fly from DEL and BLR to STN and from ATQ to BHX


Do they still have LGW slots?

They do, but they did not get same time slots on all 7 days, so they're unlikely to go ahead with it
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:24 pm

Vistara gets Jet landing and take-off slots for Delhi-Raipur flights

https://theprimetime.in/vistara-gets-je ... r-flights/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:45 pm

Is there no longer a free shuttle connecting T3-T1 at DEL? I find the terminal transfer process so infuriating at Indian airports. Even T3 is very poorly signposted for passengers transiting between domestic arrivals and intl departures.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:08 pm

From the article in the link below, it appears that Indigo has NOT started its second flight from Delhi to Istanbul that was due to be started from March 25 onwards.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 642411.cms
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:12 pm

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Is there no longer a free shuttle connecting T3-T1 at DEL? I find the terminal transfer process so infuriating at Indian airports. Even T3 is very poorly signposted for passengers transiting between domestic arrivals and intl departures.

I think it still exists but it's frequency is very poor. Taxi turns out to be the only option if you have a tight connection.

edealinfo wrote:
From the article in the link below, it appears that Indigo has NOT started its second flight from Delhi to Istanbul that was due to be started from March 25 onwards.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 642411.cms


They have also downgraded their existing flight to A320neo. 6E probably realising People don't want to be treated like cattle.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:18 pm

anshabhi wrote:
9w748capt wrote:

They have also downgraded their existing flight to A320neo. 6E probably realising People don't want to be treated like cattle.


But, doesn't the A320neo offer even less leg room than their international A321?

Regardless, is the underlying issue bad customer comfort or just plain ole lack of demand?

I could never understand Indigo starting 2 flights to IST. That just didn't make sense to begin with.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:50 pm

It seems like Vistara's fleet has been stuck at 22 planes. {the last plane they received was in August 2018}
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Vistara

Does anyone know when their next plane is scheduled to arrive???? The reason I ask is that with Jet's schedule severely curtailed, it might be a great opportunity for Vistara to grab Jet's slots......as long as they have the available planes!

For the information below, based on the order they placed, 8 to 10 Airbus planes were expected to be delivered in 2019. Can someone indicate the delivery schedule of these 8- 10 aircraft?

"Vistara plans to add 50 Airbus A320neo family aircraft (13 firm orders {of A320 and A321}, 37 to be taken from leasing companies) and 6 Boeing 787-9 aircraft. Vistara has also retained options for seven more aircraft from the A320neo family and four more aircraft from the 787 family.

Deliveries for the A320neo and A321neo aircraft will be between 2019 and 2023.The airline will get 8-10 of the leased Airbus planes in 2019, while deliveries from the purchases start a year after and continue till 2023.

For the B787-9s, delivery will be scheduled between 2020 and 2021."

Do any of India's aviation journalists visit this forum? If so, could you do a story on Vistara's plans for the current year, specifically, and try to find out their delivery schedule for 2019? The story could be in the context of Vistara's international flying plans and in expanding its presence domestically to fill in Jet's "shortfall" in capacity.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - March 2019

Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:22 am

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Lightsaber


Lightsaber, you had earlier said you refrained from commenting on Vistara and filling in any gaps caused by Jet because of lack of information. So, I researched their orders and deliveries and below is what I discovered which will only add to their existing fleet of 22 aircraft:

V I S T A R A

NEW Orders: 56 orders to be delivered over 5 years from 2019 to 2023 + 11 options for a total of 67 aircraft

50 Airbus A320neo family aircraft
- 13 firm orders {of A320 and A321} purchased by Vistara (deliveries from 2020 to 2023)
- 37 to be taken from leasing companies
o 15 (A320neo) from Avalon (to be delivered from June 2019 and continue up to August 2021)
o 15 (9 A320neo + 6 A321neo) from Air Lease Corporation (ALC)
 The 9 A320neos from ALC to be delivered from first quarter of 2021 through 2022
 The 6 A321 neo to be delivered from first quarter of 2020 through 2021
o 7 (A320 neo) from GECAS (deliveries in the latter part of 2019 and continuing to 2020)

6 Boeing 787-9 aircraft[/b] purchased by Vistara (delivery will be scheduled between 2020 and 2021).

Options:
7 more aircraft from the A320neo
4 more aircraft from the 787 family

Note: Vistara will get 8-10 of the leased Airbus planes in 2019 [so it looks from the delivery schedule above that the Year 2019 aircraft will come from Avalon and GECAS with the first aircraft of the 8 – 10 Year 2019 deliveries to arrive in June 2019.]
 
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