CLTDAL wrote:Ok. Lets get serious here for a minute. JetBlue needs to fix its "identity" problem FIRST before they start flying to Europe. Also, what about the remainder of the US????? What about customers who live in those markets???? If B6 wants to be a FULL SERVICE airline, they must connect the dots in the US and then begin flying to Europe. What airline flies to just a boutique selection of cities in the US and then starts jumping over the pond??? I think its bizarre. They need to realize that their costs are going to RISE-significantly. Everything will NEED to change. They will need to dump the motto " we are in the sweet spot" and become a Full Service Legacy airline. That means: Clubs/ Lounges, Retrofitting their current fleet to have a First Class product. ( Who is going to want to fly them from London to Boston and then hop on a old E190 with no Upgrade to First Class????) They are really jumping the gun here. As I've always said: They have a major problem with who they are and what they want to be. They complain their costs are rising.....well thats because they offer a higher quality product and continue to do so. Now they will need an even "better" product that will cost even more. If you want to be Low Cost- be low cost. B6 needs to finally CROSS OVER and become the Legacy it truly wants to be. Stop living a lie....a fantasy.....being half-way.....in the middle. That is not working and will definately NOT work if you plan to fly to Europe.
They need to fly to places where people from NYC and BOS wants to go. There is far more connection between London with these 2 cities than STL or MCI. Unless you work in NYC, I don't think you really have appreciation of how much business connection there is between London and New York. Imo, LHR is a more important business destination than even LA and SF out of NYC. It's such a huge hole in their network.
As for hoping on E90 with no upgrade to first class, that will be replaced by A220 soon enough. Compared to "first class" in europe, the EMS seat on E90 is much better. Try finding another economy product in Europe that's even comparable to B6 E90. I've done enough flight to LHR and then connecting to a BA A320 to somewhere in Europe. That experience is not pleasant.
As for clubs/lounges, there are 3 lounges you can easily access with priority pass from Terminal C at BOS right now. And with the new terminal planned at JFK, they will definitely have pp lounge there also. Why do they need to invest in lounge access when most people travelling like myself already have priority pass access? And for the infrequent flyers, they are either picking B6 because that's what their company travel policy would force them to do or because they are picking the best value for premium experience. The lack of lounge certainly hasn't stopped mint from dominating the transcon market. From my experience on FT, there are plenty of ff who pick B6 over legacy options even when factoring in lack of lounge access.
If there is anything that will make it tough for them, it will be lack of well timed slots and lack of partners on the other side. We will have to get further details to see what they can do about that.