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Qatar Airways announces 7 new destinations

Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:02 pm

Qatar Airways has announced 7 new destinations for 2018. The announcement was made during ITB Berlin

Izmir, Turkey - 3 weekly A320 flights - 23MAY19

Malta - Daily A320 - 23MAY19

Rabat, Morocco - 3 weekly B787 - 29MAY19

Davao, Philippines - 1 weekly B787 - 18JUN19 (currently at 1 weekly due to aircraft availability. Planned to increase to 3 weekly)

Lisbon, Portugal - daily B787 - 24JUN19

Mogadishu, Somalia - 3 weekly A320 - 01JUL19

Langkawi, Malaysia - 5 weekly B787 - 15OCT19

Another 7 new destinations will be announced soon

Source: https://thepointsguy.com/news/qatar-7-n ... ce=TWITTER
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:30 pm

Not sure what happened to LAS which announced a while back, anyway a good get for QR with some of these if they come to fruition :)

RBA should give EY a run for its (minimal) money too!
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:06 pm

I am surprised Davao is announced instead of Cebu
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:07 pm

Interesting that they are launching Mogadishu, that's going to be quite a detour. I guess they hope yields would be good due to lack of competition.
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:08 pm

They have announced more new routes, yet a destination like TLL, which they announced last year still hasn't been launched (if ever?).
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:25 pm

Wow, another destination in Turkey. They are covering quite a few cities: IST, SAW, ESB, ADA, BJV, AYT, HTY and now also ADB. Did I miss any?
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:28 pm

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They have announced more new routes, yet a destination like TLL, which they announced last year still hasn't been launched (if ever?).


the importance of launching a route is the important piece, its the flashy press conferences that are of importance!!
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:34 pm

And the secondary destinations in SEA continue... those 787 are coming in handy and I can only imagine these places are happy to get attention from european tourists seeking more and more exotic places now that Bangkok and Phuket are so "mainstream"
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:13 pm

Still waiting on that LAS launch.
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:14 pm

Maybe the next 7 will include DTW, LAS and SFO
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Re: Qatar Airways announces 7 new destinations

Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:21 pm

Along with LIS Akbar also mentioned two other Portuguese cities to be announced in the second half of 2019: FAO? FNC? OPO?
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:26 pm

Surprising that with the new EU-QR agreement and the location in Germany they haven't announced further expansion into Germany, Hamburg and Dusseldorf should work
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Re: Qatar Airways announces 7 new destinations

Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:26 pm

According to ThePointsGuy, LGK will be served 3x daily.
Can't imagine this route will last for long time.
 
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Re: Qatar Airways announces 7 new destinations

Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:31 pm

Let see, I was searching an old article and saw this:

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ns-in-s18/

"The airline also plans to offer service Cebu, Da Nang, Davao, Langkawi, Lisbon, Luxembourg, Malta and Tallinn at a later date."

Out of those, QR start flying to DAD in W18, DVO, LGK, LIS, and MLA are now annouced. This leaves CEB in SE Asia (Maybe lack of aircraft?) along with LUX and TLL over in Europe.

dsfad wrote:
Along with LIS Akbar also mentioned two other Portuguese cities to be announced in the second half of 2019: FAO? FNC? OPO?


You can probably take FNC out - can that airport even handle a widebody? (At 3565nmi from DOH to FNC, before accounting for the detour that QR has to take, I don't think a A320/321neo have the leg).

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nipkow wrote:
According to ThePointsGuy, LGK will be served 3x daily.
Can't imagine this route will last for long time.


3x weekly.
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:33 pm

Wonder if QR is going to pass TK for the most destinations in the world.
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Re: Qatar Airways announces 7 new destinations

Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:41 pm

zakuivcustom wrote:
Let see, I was searching an old article and saw this:

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... ns-in-s18/

"The airline also plans to offer service Cebu, Da Nang, Davao, Langkawi, Lisbon, Luxembourg, Malta and Tallinn at a later date."

Out of those, QR start flying to DAD in W18, DVO, LGK, LIS, and MLA are now annouced. This leaves CEB in SE Asia (Maybe lack of aircraft?) along with LUX and TLL over in Europe.

dsfad wrote:
Along with LIS Akbar also mentioned two other Portuguese cities to be announced in the second half of 2019: FAO? FNC? OPO?


You can probably take FNC out - can that airport even handle a widebody? (At 3565nmi from DOH to FNC, before accounting for the detour that QR has to take, I don't think a A320/321neo have the leg).


I would bet OPO and FAO but Madeira (FNC) or Azores (PDL) can be a very good surprise.

Regarding FNC yes it can handle a widebody, a few years ago TAP Portugal performed LIS-FNC-CCS-FNC-LIS with A332.
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:42 pm

You can probably take FNC out - can that airport even handle a widebody? (At 3565nmi from DOH to FNC, before accounting for the detour that QR has to take, I don't think a A320/321neo have the leg)


Interesting - surely that only leaves FAO and OPO?
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:45 pm

What the heck, LGK 3x daily? Who would fly through QR to go visit Langkawi? Absolute craziness.
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:50 pm

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According to ThePointsGuy, LGK will be served 3x daily.
Can't imagine this route will last for long time.


I think it's 3 weekly. LGK actually use to have a MH flight to LHR so there was some kind of demand.
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:54 pm

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What the heck, LGK 3x daily? Who would fly through QR to go visit Langkawi? Absolute craziness.


It makes perfect sense for any European to fly to Langkawi through Doha. And the planned flight is 3xWeekly, so nothing too extravagant.
LGK is a pretty amazing destination island - it did have direct flights from several European hubs for a short while.
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:55 pm

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Regarding FNC yes it can handle a widebody, a few years ago TAP Portugal performed LIS-FNC-CCS-FNC-LIS with A332.


Didn't realized that. But yeah, I doubt they'll fly to FNC vs. FAO and OPO.

tphuang wrote:
What the heck, LGK 3x daily? Who would fly through QR to go visit Langkawi? Absolute craziness.


Again, 3x weekly, which makes a lot more sense anyway.

LGK definitely fell off the radar as a resort destination, though.
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:59 pm

zakuivcustom wrote:
AECM wrote:
Regarding FNC yes it can handle a widebody, a few years ago TAP Portugal performed LIS-FNC-CCS-FNC-LIS with A332.


Didn't realized that. But yeah, I doubt they'll fly to FNC vs. FAO and OPO.

tphuang wrote:
What the heck, LGK 3x daily? Who would fly through QR to go visit Langkawi? Absolute craziness.


Again, 3x weekly, which makes a lot more sense anyway.

LGK definitely fell off the radar as a resort destination, though.


My bad. I meant 3x weekly, not daily. The initial post stats it is 5 times weekly.
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:00 pm

At long last, LIS. That's going to be interesting for us. FAO, 15 mins from me, would be unbelievable.
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:30 pm

Could Qatar look at other UK destinations? I heard they were looking at Belfast International (BFS) but don't know what happened...that was just before the Cardiff launch
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:36 pm

zakuivcustom wrote:
AECM wrote:
Regarding FNC yes it can handle a widebody, a few years ago TAP Portugal performed LIS-FNC-CCS-FNC-LIS with A332.


Didn't realized that. But yeah, I doubt they'll fly to FNC vs. FAO and OPO.

tphuang wrote:
What the heck, LGK 3x daily? Who would fly through QR to go visit Langkawi? Absolute craziness.


Again, 3x weekly, which makes a lot more sense anyway.

LGK definitely fell off the radar as a resort destination, though.


I had the pleasure of visiting LGK last year and loved it. All the tropical island scenes from the Crazy Rich Asians movie were filmed there, I've heard numerous people talk about Langkawi as a destination in the last few months because of it.
 
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:45 pm

I was hoping for DUS to become QR destination very soon as part of the recently signed deal between EU and QR. Any idea by when DUS will be added soonest?
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Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:59 pm

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Interesting that they are launching Mogadishu, that's going to be quite a detour. I guess they hope yields would be good due to lack of competition.


Well the main competition is for international NGO traffic (although all yields in general seem high) and right now TK and ET fly there. Although both airlines don't really time their flights around North American connections so maybe there's a niche that QR can fill if the flights are timed correctly.

I'm always curious how much ground handling and airport operation costs are in a place like Mogadishu. Even with the high yields, the operational costs must be astronomical.
 
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:07 am

AlexA340B777 wrote:
I was hoping for DUS to become QR destination very soon as part of the recently signed deal between EU and QR. Any idea by when DUS will be added soonest?


The EU-Qatar deal was initiated recently; however it will get into effect once the parliaments/governing bodies in both entities sign the document, which is a few months.
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:11 am

I don't envy the pilots and Cabin Crew scheduled into Mogadishu, I predict an increase in sick-calls coming soon.
 
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:21 am

xwb777 wrote:
Mogadishu, Somalia - 3 weekly A320 - 01JUL19

Source: https://thepointsguy.com/news/qatar-7-n ... ce=TWITTER


Somalia will go via Djibouti I think as a way to avoid crew overnighting in the dangerous country.
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:52 am

I hope it's PHX, the valley of the sun is growing and more people from the middle east are moving there. Should have a population of 6 million by 2030. Also PHX being an AA hub helps.
 
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:19 am

Davao and Langkawi.....interesting.....can there be some extra US destinations next?
 
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 7:38 am

Well i think LAS was announced before the Qatar air space block etc, I guess the route was aimed at not just hauling tourist from Far East Asia, but also from Saudi Arabia, UAE, and etc.
 
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I am surprised Davao is announced instead of Cebu


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Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:15 am

FNC saw a 747 land as part of the then-new runway certification process.

I do not see QR flying there anytime soon though..

Good additions though. Seven is pretty significant.

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FNC saw a 747 land as part of the then-new runway certification process.

I do not see QR flying there anytime soon though..

Good additions though. Seven is pretty significant.

Regards.

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I remember the 747 Cpt. that landed in Funchal was questioned on the challenge to land such a large aircraft in FNC due to known operational issues (wind) and he responded something like "much more stable than an A320 or B37".

TAP also flew with the A340-300 for the certification process and a couple commercial flights. It still flies the A330 regularly in peak season.

Air Luxor had a few regular flights in the L-1011 Tristar.

Austrian Airlines flew the B777-200 to FNC for quite a long period on regular flights from Vienna. Same with SBA with CCS-FNC on the B767.

Thomas Cook and Thomson occasionaly fly with the B767.

Of course, I can not think of a reason why FNC would be part of Qatar plans. But the airport or runway is not a limitation it self.
 
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:18 pm

Pretty sure the next 7 destinations include two german cities.
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:08 pm

amdflight wrote:
B8887 wrote:
FNC saw a 747 land as part of the then-new runway certification process.

I do not see QR flying there anytime soon though..

Good additions though. Seven is pretty significant.

Regards.

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I remember the 747 Cpt. that landed in Funchal was questioned on the challenge to land such a large aircraft in FNC due to known operational issues (wind) and he responded something like "much more stable than an A320 or B37".

TAP also flew with the A340-300 for the certification process and a couple commercial flights. It still flies the A330 regularly in peak season.

Air Luxor had a few regular flights in the L-1011 Tristar.

Austrian Airlines flew the B777-200 to FNC for quite a long period on regular flights from Vienna. Same with SBA with CCS-FNC on the B767.

Thomas Cook and Thomson occasionaly fly with the B767.

Of course, I can not think of a reason why FNC would be part of Qatar plans. But the airport or runway is not a limitation it self.


I wouldn't say the airport does not present any limitations, as the apron is quite tight, with limited parking spots, and there is (was?) no proper taxiway, so widebody operations cause a bit of a hindrance in the rest of the traffic. However, as you mentioned, it can be and is done, if you time it right, and the runway itself is not an issue.

FNC to Qatar does not make much sense, but then again neither does FAO to Qatar (OPO is a no-brainer, as much as it will make certain members of this forum mad). Yes, FAO has a lot of traffic, but it is almost all inbound, for the beaches in the Algarve, and low-yielding short-haul traffic from Northern Europe. There are a few wealthy Middle Easterners with mansions and hotels there, but I imagine they can travel private (and would in any case be loathe to connect through Qatar in the current political environment).
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:41 pm

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J343 wrote:
I am surprised Davao is announced instead of Cebu


Your not alone.


Isn't Davao home of a large Muslim population (Mindanao)? That would fuel some workers' traffic to Qatar and some tourism there + connections to Europe. A pity about Qatar being closed to the GCC, otherwise connections to JED/MED would be a no brainer for religious traffic, and additional workers to Saudi/UAE.

As for Portugal, I can't think of a third airport there. FAO? PDL? FNC? Those are all extremely leisure oriented (and PDL a bit VFR to North America). As for the second airport, that would obviously be OPO. With QR getting in DOH-OPO that would only help the Porto bubble to make it bigger until it explodes :).
 
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PR77W wrote:
J343 wrote:
I am surprised Davao is announced instead of Cebu


Your not alone.


Isn't Davao home of a large Muslim population (Mindanao)? That would fuel some workers' traffic to Qatar and some tourism there + connections to Europe. A pity about Qatar being closed to the GCC, otherwise connections to JED/MED would be a no brainer for religious traffic, and additional workers to Saudi/UAE.

As for Portugal, I can't think of a third airport there. FAO? PDL? FNC? Those are all extremely leisure oriented (and PDL a bit VFR to North America). As for the second airport, that would obviously be OPO. With QR getting in DOH-OPO that would only help the Porto bubble to make it bigger until it explodes :).

But nowadays Qatar cannot connect to Saudi Arabia which make it pretty useless to attract Muslim tourism?
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:50 pm

LGK is on the upwards trend, since it is the PM's favourite place. During his first administration he spent a lot to develop the island, and now he's back, get ready for the island to receive a turbocharged upgrade.

On another note, I would think that a flight from LGK to DOH would be a great option for PEN folks to go anywhere without having to backtrack to KUL. The flight from PEN to LGK is like less than one hour.
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:56 pm

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FNC to Qatar does not make much sense, but then again neither does FAO to Qatar (OPO is a no-brainer, as much as it will make certain members of this forum mad). Yes, FAO has a lot of traffic, but it is almost all inbound, for the beaches in the Algarve, and low-yielding short-haul traffic from Northern Europe. There are a few wealthy Middle Easterners with mansions and hotels there, but I imagine they can travel private (and would in any case be loathe to connect through Qatar in the current political environment).

I agree 100%. Only way I could see them serve a 3rd city in Portugal would be via another European city.
 
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I would think that a flight from LGK to DOH would be a great option for PEN folks to go anywhere without having to backtrack to KUL. The flight from PEN to LGK is like less than one hour.


QR launched PEN only recently.
 
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Pyrex wrote:
amdflight wrote:
B8887 wrote:
FNC saw a 747 land as part of the then-new runway certification process.

I do not see QR flying there anytime soon though..

Good additions though. Seven is pretty significant.

Regards.

B8887


I remember the 747 Cpt. that landed in Funchal was questioned on the challenge to land such a large aircraft in FNC due to known operational issues (wind) and he responded something like "much more stable than an A320 or B37".

TAP also flew with the A340-300 for the certification process and a couple commercial flights. It still flies the A330 regularly in peak season.

Air Luxor had a few regular flights in the L-1011 Tristar.

Austrian Airlines flew the B777-200 to FNC for quite a long period on regular flights from Vienna. Same with SBA with CCS-FNC on the B767.

Thomas Cook and Thomson occasionaly fly with the B767.

Of course, I can not think of a reason why FNC would be part of Qatar plans. But the airport or runway is not a limitation it self.


I wouldn't say the airport does not present any limitations, as the apron is quite tight, with limited parking spots, and there is (was?) no proper taxiway, so widebody operations cause a bit of a hindrance in the rest of the traffic. However, as you mentioned, it can be and is done, if you time it right, and the runway itself is not an issue.

FNC to Qatar does not make much sense, but then again neither does FAO to Qatar (OPO is a no-brainer, as much as it will make certain members of this forum mad). Yes, FAO has a lot of traffic, but it is almost all inbound, for the beaches in the Algarve, and low-yielding short-haul traffic from Northern Europe. There are a few wealthy Middle Easterners with mansions and hotels there, but I imagine they can travel private (and would in any case be loathe to connect through Qatar in the current political environment).


I don´t think that is an issue either. Apron taxilane in FNC is limited to 65m wingspan (most WB fit that criteria, like B787) so any taxiway B or C can be used, and there are 4 spaces dedicated to WB which rarely are occupied.

I believe the most "exotic" visits we have seen at FNC has been the A310 from BOS (charter flights) and the A340-300 (from JNB). I don´t think we´ll ever have something as exotic as Qatar flight.
 
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Pretty sure the next 7 destinations include two german cities.


Do you have source which says which 7 you think they are?
 
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:32 pm

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But nowadays Qatar cannot connect to Saudi Arabia which make it pretty useless to attract Muslim tourism?


I meant they can always target Davao to local Qatar traffic (VFR from Philippines in QA + tourism from Qataris or Qatar-based residents in a Muslim SE Asia area) + whatever connections to Europe there might be (mainly European tourists).

I suspect some of the new destinations in Turkey like Bodrum or Antalya must be quite targeted towards local traffic. Maybe somebody has figures.
 
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How about EWR?
 
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SeanM1997 wrote:
DLHAM wrote:
Pretty sure the next 7 destinations include two german cities.


Do you have source which says which 7 you think they are?


I dont know, but after Qatar just got more acess to the german market after years I am pretty sure they will use this opportunity. They want to serve DUS and HAM for years ...
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Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:27 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
c933103 wrote:
But nowadays Qatar cannot connect to Saudi Arabia which make it pretty useless to attract Muslim tourism?


I meant they can always target Davao to local Qatar traffic (VFR from Philippines in QA + tourism from Qataris or Qatar-based residents in a Muslim SE Asia area) + whatever connections to Europe there might be (mainly European tourists).

I suspect some of the new destinations in Turkey like Bodrum or Antalya must be quite targeted towards local traffic. Maybe somebody has figures.


I am sure there is some demand but not as much as CEB. I am sure tourism in Cebu and surrounding areas is bigger than Davao. CX alone already serves CEB with 12x weekly using a mixture of A330 and their B777-300.
 
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SCQ83 wrote:
c933103 wrote:
But nowadays Qatar cannot connect to Saudi Arabia which make it pretty useless to attract Muslim tourism?


I meant they can always target Davao to local Qatar traffic (VFR from Philippines in QA + tourism from Qataris or Qatar-based residents in a Muslim SE Asia area) + whatever connections to Europe there might be (mainly European tourists).

I suspect some of the new destinations in Turkey like Bodrum or Antalya must be quite targeted towards local traffic. Maybe somebody has figures.

I don't think there are that many VFR/tourism connection/demand between the two places just because they are both religiously Islamic... That's like saying there will be a demand for a route flying between Panama and Kenya because both of them are Christian...
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