United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

questions · Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:07 am

DocLightning wrote:
I wonder what it would have looked like on the 744.

Awww... I miss the 744! :cry2:

NearMiss · Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:38 am

Good, an airline that actually paints their engines. Hooray!

lollomz · Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:45 am

Well done, I like it!

Virginblue4 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:47 am

I really like the new livery. Looking forward to seeing it on the 777 and 787! Let’s just hope they paint the engines on the 787.

CDGIAD · Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:00 am

alberchico wrote:
I love it !!!

I REALLY like it except for the color of the swoop.
Should be he same as the title or the globe but not this super dark blue.

scbriml · Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:06 am

Wow, I guess a lot of you fall for telephone scams? How can you not spot when you've been played?

impilot · Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:13 am

scbriml wrote:
Wow, I guess a lot of you fall for telephone scams? How can you not spot when you've been played?

What am I missing here

CarbonFibre · Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:48 am

N649DL · Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:56 am

I posted it earlier but lord, this is not too much different than 30 years ago (minus Peter Cetera doing background vocals): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVlNf4Io2Do

EDIT: Never mind make that Michael McDonald, perfect for the two carriers!

a320fan · Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:11 am

I quite like it. It’s not the best livery I’ve ever seen but it’s a nice refresh. Could it look better with some minor tweaks? Probably, but there’s nothing offensive here.

UAL777UK · Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:19 am

I do like it. It certainly does not blow mw away but it was never going to, being that it was an evolution as opposed to a revolution. Nice work UA. Lets get a 777 and 787 out in there soon as I think they will look much more impressive.

CARST · Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:24 am

#EuroWhite ???

Where is the damn Gold? Oh my. Another uniform livery...

OA940 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:26 am

It's not bad per se, but it's literally the same livery on the 787s and MAXs just blue. I expected more of a new brand. Disappointing but not bad.

Blankbarcode · Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:35 am

CARST wrote:
#EuroWhite ???

Where is the damn Gold? Oh my. Another uniform livery...

About that...

livery
/ˈlɪv(ə)ri/
noun
1.
a special uniform worn by a servant, an official, or a member of a City Company.
"yeomen of the guard wearing a royal red and gold livery"

Blankbarcode · Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:37 am

Notice those who are upset completely missed the point on the *first official message* from the airline itself that it was an evolution rather than a revolution, and that the globe was to stay.

This site is admittedly decent for insider news and leaks, but not much else.

aerokiwi · Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:43 am

Blankbarcode wrote:
Notice those who are upset completely missed the point on the *first official message* from the airline itself that it was an evolution rather than a revolution, and that the globe was to stay.

This site is admittedly decent for insider news and leaks, but not much else.

I think most people got that. It's just that the end result is... bleh. Reckon this will be around in 10 years?

Blankbarcode · Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:47 am

aerokiwi wrote:
Blankbarcode wrote:
Notice those who are upset completely missed the point on the *first official message* from the airline itself that it was an evolution rather than a revolution, and that the globe was to stay.

This site is admittedly decent for insider news and leaks, but not much else.

I think most people got that. It's just that the end result is... bleh. Reckon this will be around in 10 years?

I might be biased! I like it quite a bit and I think I agree with others here that this livery is recapturing what *should* have been done post CO merger, so I definitely see it more as a stepping stone rather than something permanent. Until something truly revolutionary comes along, this does the job just fine and I think I'm more relieved we didn't get a China Eastern 2.0

OzarkD9S · Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:53 am

Love the tail, indifferent about the rest of it. Inoffensive and serviceable.

Lilienthal · Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:13 am

It's ok... could be worse, I guess...

But there's something off about it. The swoop doesn't harmonize with the bold and strong "UNITED" lettering. The globe is refined nicely but it seems kinda outdated to "cut" the tail off when it meets the fuselage. The swoop almost seems like they wanted to put something there and not go all eurowhite. That's great in general but I'm not sure if they succeeded here.

DY789 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:35 am

Must admit. I think it will be a grower. Much like the Lufthansa scheme!

FlyRow · Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:00 am

It's ok.

Not bad, not good, fits United perfectly.

AA737-823 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:03 am

I've got mixed feelings about it.
I like things about it, but other things make me go "oh gosh.... well, it's not as bad as Lufthansa."
The tail is a miss for me. It needed to come down onto the empennage or something; this just kinda looks like someone took the existing tail globe and said "make it look more Microsoft Clipart Library-ish."
I'm fine with the billboard, but I can't figure out when they shifted it aft, so that the D is halfway onto the overwing exit, while the U is nowhere close to the front door.
I'm glad for the gray belly, and I'm glad for the blue engines, but together they kinda.... meh.

So yeah. I'm quietly relieved that there was no eurowhite and no repeat of the Lufthansa abomination.
But I'm not exactly impressed.
And when you consider how United is... we'll probably be looking at this paint job for another thirty years. Which gives me no comfort.

I agree that it looks like what they should have done from the outset at the merger. Which, to me, is part of the problem.
"Look! We've caught up to where we should have been ten years ago!"

Max Q · Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:03 am

The blue is too pale, it will fade and look lousy and the white looks washed out right there in the paint shop

Like its been sitting in the desert for a few years

It’s really terrible, a big step backwards, this is the best they could come up with ?!

flipdewaf · Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:06 am

Looks like they hired the Porsche designers to change the thin end of jack sh1t and claim a revolution.

Fred

dman87 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:31 am

Love all the whining on here with pretty much EVERY new livery a major carrier comes out with! I personally like the new livery, keeps the Continental globe but has the United 2003-2009 colour pallette for the tail. Just how a merged airline should be.

PA101 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:36 am

Actually, I do really like it. :-)

Lightning12 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:37 am

Looks pretty nice actually, but will take a bit of time to get used to it.

micstatic · Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:49 am

I don't know why they picked the ugliest plane in their fleet to display it on. That's my only question

Keith2004 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:07 am

Its.....OK

I like the Bigger letters and shades of blue,

Comparing the reactions here to other livery reveals, they may have accomplished what they set out; path of least resistance, not much love or hate....if neutral was a livery LOL

Croden · Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:49 am

I like it alright it just looks a little mismatched. If I were to look at the tail by itself, I would have a hard time envisioning the rest of the fuselage. That doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense but essentially, I feel like there should’ve been more continuity in the color choices. Just my opinion though. As far as new liveries go, this is one of the better ones and not necessarily a downgrade I think

WeatherPilot · Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:55 am

I don’t get the people who are upset that the paint scheme wasn’t more refined or intricate. Painting planes cost money. The more complex the job the more expensive it is and United has a ~1,000 planes to paint.

jetskipper · Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:02 pm

Wonder if there will be a logo or titling on the belly. I always thought this was underutilized advertising and branding space.

Springbok743 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:18 pm

I've never liked liveries that just seem so boring, sure it's got a swoosh, but I'd have preferred something a bit more like the current KLM swoosh down at the nose. Tail seems fine, although it's
prominent use of the light blue seems a bit out of place.
Nothing very offensive though, I'd say overall still quite indifferent about it all.

Springbok743 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:21 pm

jetskipper wrote:
Wonder if there will be a logo or titling on the belly. I always thought this was underutilized advertising and branding space.

I've talked to a designer who seemed to hate having the write the airlines name facing one side, For example he mentioned he would have had the Virgin Logo painted on the bottom of their planes as viewed if you were standing behind it, rather than the current text you can only read if you're off the one side.

I'd agree I wouldn't mind seeing something underneath though, as they do often look a tad bare.

dmstorm22 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:49 pm

flipdewaf wrote:
Looks like they hired the Porsche designers to change the thin end of jack sh1t and claim a revolution.

Fred

They literally did not claim a 'revolution'

UWPAviation · Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:51 pm

dman87 wrote:
Love all the whining on here with pretty much EVERY new livery a major carrier comes out with! I personally like the new livery, keeps the Continental globe but has the United 2003-2009 colour pallette for the tail. Just how a merged airline should be.

That sums up this website perfect. People clam for something. The second we get something new, we hate it old was better

tjwgrr · Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:55 pm

micstatic wrote:
I don't know why they picked the ugliest plane in their fleet to display it on. That's my only question

Yeah, the 319 would have looked so much better..... :roll:

Kno · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:02 pm

UWPAviation wrote:
dman87 wrote:
Love all the whining on here with pretty much EVERY new livery a major carrier comes out with! I personally like the new livery, keeps the Continental globe but has the United 2003-2009 colour pallette for the tail. Just how a merged airline should be.

That sums up this website perfect. People clam for something. The second we get something new, we hate it old was better

I'd actually say sweeping generalizations like these have gotten more tired than people actually complaining about liveries. In reality most folks here are saying it's mediocre (I agree), most folks said Air Canada was bad (I actually like the new livery much better), and the more iconic liveries like Lufthansa and AA people were sad to see go, understandably, so negative reactions were inevitable on an enthusiast website. Plenty of liveries have been released and well received here as well.

timf · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:04 pm

United did a great job with the new livery. My only regret is that they didn't implement it at the time of the merger since it pays homage to both former liveries while adding the Dreamliner twist. Anything is better than United titles pasted on Continental's livery.

danman132x · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:04 pm

Looks really good, I like it. Much better than their current livery. Pretty professional looking. Painting the engines is nice, Lufthansa could learn a lesson here...

airtrantpa · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:15 pm

At least it doesn’t represent a misspelled “continental”plane. It’ll grow on me I’m sure

baje427 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:23 pm

I think it would look nicer with a good swish instead.

micstatic · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:28 pm

tjwgrr wrote:
micstatic wrote:
I don't know why they picked the ugliest plane in their fleet to display it on. That's my only question

Yeah, the 319 would have looked so much better.....

Even though you are being sarcastic, I totally agree with you. The 737 looks so weird with the stub nose and low sitting engines.

ACCS300 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:30 pm

I guess any hopes of a 'tulip' revival of some-sort are now dashed for good. We all knew an entire re-brand was not in the works so this will due for another decade I guess.

mikegigs · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:34 pm

The livery looks fine honestly. Wish there was at least one other color in there (like purple), but it would have been worse...

What I'm really impressed by is the ability of the members of this site to have so accurately predicted this. The real livery looks SO CLOSE to what people had been producing on here! Well done A-netters !

Junction · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:37 pm

LOVE IT!

JayWings · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:40 pm

I’m glad it’s not their “slap a United name on a Continental plane” livery but it doesn’t feel cohesive to me. Maybe if the engines had a gradient to them like the tail... I don’t know. I wasn’t expecting United to reinvent the wheel, but I was hoping for a bit more finesse. I’m sure when seen in real life it will be more impactful.

USAavdork · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:41 pm

I like the bigger font and the wavy line... but I wish the tail had another color... maybe purple or teal like the new uniforms. The only thing that really I don’t like is the shade of blue on the engines. I feel like it cheapens the look of the brand... had it been a darker blue or purple it would have been much better.

United787 · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:46 pm

I have mixed feelings. It certainly met the expectations set by Oscar. I was hoping for something more. I think those that summarized this saying this should have been the livery at the time of the merger nailed it. 10 years later, this should be an evolution to something better. All that said, I like it a lot better than the existing and will look nice over the whole fleet.

Unfortunately, the tulip is dead and I don't advocate bringing it back. I said this before but I think the idea of the globe is sophomoric. Yes, they are a global airline but they don't need a globe to prove it. Just because you have a presence on the world wide web, doesn't mean you need to add a www. or .com to your company name.

But, like VC10er said earlier, the globe is so engrained in their brand, it would be hard to get rid of it now... but I would have rather seen it evolve into something more abstract kind of like they did with the tulip for the blue rising livery...

Where is VC10er when you need him?

I look forward to seeing it in daylight, the colors will be more evident. It is sunny right now downtown...

UWPAviation · Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:48 pm

What is UA going to do with the express fleet? Do you think they are going to still stick with the billboard letters on a CRJ-200? Also, what do you guys think about the engines on the Y-tails, do you think they stick with the blue or they go the DL route and stick with white engines?

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