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Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:30 pm

I took another look at the E175 after the post "glare" comment. It looks better upon a second look, mainly for the tail compared to the 738.

This is one color scheme where I look at it and it from different angles based on the dimensions and go back and fourth on how I feel about it. Sort of like DL's "Wavy Gravy" scheme or even the recent AA livery by comparison.

It's not an aspiring paint scheme but it's certainly more interesting to look at than the former. I'm wishing to make it's debut soon on a 777 or 757. The 738 was the wrong choice for the release scheme. It just doesn't fit the aircraft in terms of sizing.
 
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Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:44 pm

AVENSAB727 wrote:
SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
The first 737max in the new United livery is now out of the shop, I got pictures of it. It’s not a great picture as I took a photo of the camera screen, I wanted to make sure I was the first to post it. I will make sure to upload a better version tonight, but here it is for now...

https://twitter.com/gerardiaviation/sta ... 5851585536

Looks the the 787 wavy line is a lighter shade of blue?


It looks like it but I really hope not, that’s WAY too much “United Blue”, I think the navy looks better as a) it breaks up the United Blue and b) it blends in better towards the black of the plane when the navy gradient is on the tail.
 
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Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:53 pm

General question- why doesn’t UA repaint all of their already delivered MAX’s while it won’t further interrupt flight scheduling? (Not to say they are moving forward with any other types at a blazing pace either)
 
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Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:56 pm

gregn21 wrote:
General question- why doesn’t UA repaint all of their already delivered MAX’s while it won’t further interrupt flight scheduling? (Not to say they are moving forward with any other types at a blazing pace either)


They would if their goal was a fast repaint, but they said they would do it over the normal course of repaints which is about 7 years. Big waste of money to replace perfectly good paint even if it isn’t the new livery.
 
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Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:41 pm

gregn21 wrote:
General question- why doesn’t UA repaint all of their already delivered MAX’s while it won’t further interrupt flight scheduling? (Not to say they are moving forward with any other types at a blazing pace either)


That would be a wast of money to repaint an already freshly painted aircraft. That’s like buying a brand new car and the following week u want to change the color just because.
 
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Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:03 am

RE: Looks like the 787 wavy line is a lighter shade of blue?

Sure looks like it in the Twitter post of the 737MAX. I like it. The wavy line is the one thing that is bothering me with the new livery. It looks BLACK and the color seems out of place with the rest of the color palette of the UNITED titles, engines and tail. By matching the color of the wavy line with the rest of the lighter blues of the lettering and tail/engines gives it a more cohesive look. I hope this is the new livery going forward. I still wish the wavy line was more like the 787 line though, flowing OVER the wings and gradually widening as it continues toward the rear of the fuselage.
 
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Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:06 am

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RE: Looks like the 787 wavy line is a lighter shade of blue?

Sure looks like it in the Twitter post of the 737MAX. I like it. The wavy line is the one thing that is bothering me with the new livery. It looks BLACK and the color seems out of place with the rest of the color palette of the UNITED titles, engines and tail. By matching the color of the wavy line with the rest of the lighter blues of the lettering and tail/engines gives it a more cohesive look. I hope this is the new livery going forward. I still wish the wavy line was more like the 787 line though, flowing OVER the wings and gradually widening as it continues toward the rear of the fuselage.


I agree, IF the blue line is the same colour as the titles then I think that is a big improvement. The dark blue (almost black) line was too much IMHO and jarred with the rest of the livery. This looks a lot more holistic and flows better.
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Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:08 pm

As I promised, here is the better quality picture of the first 737max in the new United livery.

https://twitter.com/gerardiaviation/sta ... 7196092416

With the better quality one you can clearly see the reg. And also that there is still some gold on the aircraft (look at the inside of the winglets)
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Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:35 pm

Thanks for sharing the photo. Clearly the winglet is from the old livery and for whatever reason it was not repainted. I can’t imagine it will stay like that. As others have pointed out, it’s interesting the wave is a different shade of blue. I wonder if this is a permanent change to the new livery.
 
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Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:23 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
As I promised, here is the better quality picture of the first 737max in the new United livery.

https://twitter.com/gerardiaviation/sta ... 7196092416

With the better quality one you can clearly see the reg. And also that there is still some gold on the aircraft (look at the inside of the winglets)


That would be an error, there is No Gold, expect that will be quickly fixed.
 
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Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:12 pm

Looks like they got rid of the "Blue Rhapsody" shade both in the swoop and in the tail gradient. I don't think that's a good tradeoff.
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Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:47 pm

unitedewr737 wrote:
gregn21 wrote:
General question- why doesn’t UA repaint all of their already delivered MAX’s while it won’t further interrupt flight scheduling? (Not to say they are moving forward with any other types at a blazing pace either)


They would if their goal was a fast repaint, but they said they would do it over the normal course of repaints which is about 7 years. Big waste of money to replace perfectly good paint even if it isn’t the new livery.


7 years? AA was able to do their repaints in 4 years.

intotheair wrote:
Looks like they got rid of the "Blue Rhapsody" shade both in the swoop and in the tail gradient. I don't think that's a good tradeoff.


Or perhaps the paint shop made a mistake given that the winglets are painted in the previous livery.
 
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Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:30 pm

There are many levels of branding in terms of change, depending on the situation with a brand (is business slowing, flat, declining or in a death spiral?). Or, there is “new news, innovation or product improvement and last: have your primary competitors de-positioned you with a fresh bold look (making your brand look old) or someone entered your category in a block buster way that disrupted the ENTIRE category and in one fell swoop wrecked every other brand in the category. Not the case here.

That said aviation brand/branding fundamentals are the same regardless: (ALL brands from Coke vs Pepsi, to M&Ms vs Reese’s Pieces, Mercedes vs BMW, United vs Delta & AA)- at the most fundamental levels, they are all BRANDS, all decent brands represent a promise to a consumer: McDonalds will be MaDonalds: whether it’s the one near where you live in New Jersey, or São Paulo or Budapest. At a higher level, a Park Hyatt, or Four Seasons in San Francisco or booking either someplace you’ve never been before will provide you with a promise of a certain level of consistency and comfort, luxury etc in knowing what your getting when you reserve a room in Hanoi (I don’t know if there is a Four Seasons or Park Hyatt in Hanoi) I just wanted to choose a less obvious city. PanAm created the Intercontinental Hotel, because they wanted to be sure in 1971 that if you flew PanAm to Teheran, or Kenya their American passengers would have the guarantee of a a hotel with American cultural
familiarity.

Again: No, I’m not in love with the new United livery, I personally as a Creative Director would have done a few things differently. But even if the one I created was selected- it would be loved, disappoint or be hated. IT IS UNAVOIDABLE.

The REAL and improving United brand is based solely on how the entire 3600 UA experience is changing. Not because of graphical changes. United is doing well now because so much has improved. (Yet still a few years away from reaching its fullest potential)
Polaris and new check-in process and look, new airport experiences, better gates and seating, on the premium level both the new UC & Polaris Lounges and Premium seats are far better, happier and friendly customer service is improving, the renovated ac plus NEW aircraft are beautiful (more steady and positive PR like their stellar equality programs - what they are doing for women and PRIDE month is making headlines as is are all the new exciting routes and more.) Better record in lost luggage etc, etc. Providing consistently across such a large and complex and expensive category as a major airline is NOT easy!
The new livery doesn’t do much more than signal a freshness, a new refreshed United brand. They were not in a death spiral, but were indeed ranked last. That had to change, and finally they are and the new livery says that enough. (Although I’m a bit surprised about PriestmanGoode as 1: they are not really a branding agency in this way, 2 they skew more upscale, so I’d have assumed the livery would’ve been more premium looking.

I will say this: at the very LEAST, United does look very different than all its closest competitors. United, love or hate the livery, in no way does it look similar to another airline. Differentiation is basically a good thing
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Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:06 am

Is there a repaint tracker thread up yet?
 
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Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:11 am

OB1504 wrote:
unitedewr737 wrote:
gregn21 wrote:
General question- why doesn’t UA repaint all of their already delivered MAX’s while it won’t further interrupt flight scheduling? (Not to say they are moving forward with any other types at a blazing pace either)


They would if their goal was a fast repaint, but they said they would do it over the normal course of repaints which is about 7 years. Big waste of money to replace perfectly good paint even if it isn’t the new livery.


7 years? AA was able to do their repaints in 4 years.

AA also dumped a lot of their older planes without repainting them while receiving a ton of new planes. With fleets the size of the US3, repainting them is going to take a while. UA has 781 (according to Wikipedia) mainline planes. To get that repainted in 4 years means they have to paint ~4 planes a week. That is a lot to ask for, especially as that is not also considering their Express fleet.
 
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Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:41 am

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Is there a repaint tracker thread up yet?

Here you go: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1421137
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Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:33 pm

N649DL wrote:
I took another look at the E175 after the post "glare" comment. It looks better upon a second look, mainly for the tail compared to the 738.

This is one color scheme where I look at it and it from different angles based on the dimensions and go back and fourth on how I feel about it. Sort of like DL's "Wavy Gravy" scheme or even the recent AA livery by comparison.

It's not an aspiring paint scheme but it's certainly more interesting to look at than the former. I'm wishing to make it's debut soon on a 777 or 757. The 738 was the wrong choice for the release scheme. It just doesn't fit the aircraft in terms of sizing.


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Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery released

Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:31 pm

I saw the 737-800 taxiing at EWR as my flight arrived in the other direction on the adjacent taxiway . One thing I will say is that it doesn't hold up well in a sea of the other livery., which surprised me. because I thought I quite liked it in photos. Of course, once it gains a foothold in the repaints then it may make the older livery look as bad as the Battleship grey did after the last repaint, but I don't think so.
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Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:08 pm

BWIAirport wrote:
dfwneedsqf wrote:
Is there a repaint tracker thread up yet?

Here you go: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1421137


You can also check out the united fleet website which is fantastic: https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/home

Another pic of the 737-8 Max is out:https://twitter.com/royalscottking/status/1140686202908991489

And another 737-8 Max with just the vertical stabilizer painted: https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1140121777575616514
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Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:19 pm

jworks158 wrote:
Another pic of the 737-8 Max is out:https://twitter.com/royalscottking/status/1140686202908991489

And another 737-8 Max with just the vertical stabilizer painted: https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1140121777575616514


These are all 737 MAX 9 frames.
 
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Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:19 pm

Saw pic on A.net yesterday of another UA Max 9 in new livery .... looked like it was at RNT or BFI, so I guess we now have
2 Max 9's in full paint and 1 ( 2 ) more at RNT awaiting paint ?
 
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Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:55 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
Saw pic on A.net yesterday of another UA Max 9 in new livery .... looked like it was at RNT or BFI, so I guess we now have
2 Max 9's in full paint and 1 ( 2 ) more at RNT awaiting paint ?


Can you post the link? Can’t find on the website anywhere.
 
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Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:32 pm

jworks158 wrote:
BWIAirport wrote:
dfwneedsqf wrote:
Is there a repaint tracker thread up yet?

Here you go: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1421137


You can also check out the united fleet website which is fantastic: https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/home

Another pic of the 737-8 Max is out:https://twitter.com/royalscottking/status/1140686202908991489

And another 737-8 Max with just the vertical stabilizer painted: https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1140121777575616514


Interestingly enough, the Winglets are the old paint scheme, or at least they appear to be with the gold stripe.
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Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:35 pm

Amwest2United wrote:
jworks158 wrote:
BWIAirport wrote:


You can also check out the united fleet website which is fantastic: https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/home

Another pic of the 737-8 Max is out:https://twitter.com/royalscottking/status/1140686202908991489

And another 737-8 Max with just the vertical stabilizer painted: https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1140121777575616514


Interestingly enough, the Winglets are the old paint scheme, or at least they appear to be with the gold stripe.


They were most likely in the process of painting it in the livery with the gold swoop, and then the new livery came out.
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Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:42 pm

unitedewr737 wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
Saw pic on A.net yesterday of another UA Max 9 in new livery .... looked like it was at RNT or BFI, so I guess we now have
2 Max 9's in full paint and 1 ( 2 ) more at RNT awaiting paint ?


Can you post the link? Can’t find on the website anywhere.


It's in this thread, post 1758 :)
 
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Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:16 pm

seabosdca wrote:
jworks158 wrote:
Another pic of the 737-8 Max is out:https://twitter.com/royalscottking/status/1140686202908991489

And another 737-8 Max with just the vertical stabilizer painted: https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1140121777575616514


These are all 737 MAX 9 frames.

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Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:05 pm

The new livery made its first visit to ROC yesterday. I am amazed by how good the livery looks in person especially in the grey weather we had.

Pictures by me: https://twitter.com/theOrangetechie/status/1141895011560230917
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Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:47 pm

Hopefully the link works.. First CR7 in the new livery..

https://www.instagram.com/p/By-wzcbhmEH ... 1s0vka4t9m
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:38 pm

SXDFC wrote:
Hopefully the link works.. First CR7 in the new livery..

https://www.instagram.com/p/By-wzcbhmEH ... 1s0vka4t9m


Nice ! Really reminds me of Rising Blue.

What surprises me is that the swoosh line seems to be in the darker rhapsody blue on the CR7 and not in United blue like the 737MAX we saw painted.

The swoosh line in United blue is more coherent IMO.
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:54 pm

CDGIAD wrote:
SXDFC wrote:
Hopefully the link works.. First CR7 in the new livery..

https://www.instagram.com/p/By-wzcbhmEH ... 1s0vka4t9m


Nice ! Really reminds me of Rising Blue.

What surprises me is that the swoosh line seems to be in the darker rhapsody blue on the CR7 and not in United blue like the 737MAX we saw painted.

The swoosh line in United blue is more coherent IMO.

and the "swooshiness" for a lack of a better word, seems more pronounced probably due to the shorter fuselage length
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:29 pm

CDGIAD wrote:
SXDFC wrote:
Hopefully the link works.. First CR7 in the new livery..

https://www.instagram.com/p/By-wzcbhmEH ... 1s0vka4t9m


Nice ! Really reminds me of Rising Blue.

What surprises me is that the swoosh line seems to be in the darker rhapsody blue on the CR7 and not in United blue like the 737MAX we saw painted.

The swoosh line in United blue is more coherent IMO.


Yeah... looks like that UA Max 9 might need a return visit to the paint shop to correct that swoosh ,
and paint the winglets properly.
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:50 pm

SXDFC wrote:
Hopefully the link works.. First CR7 in the new livery..

https://www.instagram.com/p/By-wzcbhmEH ... 1s0vka4t9m


Looks incredible!
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