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CONTACREW wrote:From CALTECH in the fleet/network thread:
“From sources, the Gold Stripe and the Gold On The Globe is staying. Smaller logo on the fuselage.”
So if true looks like gold stripe and gold globe is staying addition of smaller globe on fuselage. Only a few more days till we see the unveiling.
InnsbruckFlyer wrote:VC10er wrote:Perhaps someone would know how much the following would cost:
23 or so years ago I flew VARIG from Paris to Rio nonstop. It was an MD-11. I was in Economy, over night flight.
The FA handed me something I never ever got before and never again after. An Economy style amenity kit!
Basically, It was a frosted blue transparent envelope about 6 inches tall and about 3 inches wide with VARIG Brazil & Compass Rose branding printed in a darker blue, folded over top that tucked into a slit. Inside was a nice toothbrush (the kind where brush is upside down in a tube (blue tube and RG yellow top) then you flip it and the tube becomes the handle, small toothpaste, ear plugs, eyeshades and 2 mints.
If United gave something like that to E+ international passengers, especially to Europe overnight or ULH, ABOUT how much would that cost a year? Because I’m sure they could get them for and extremely low unit price. Especially if it was the POLARIS toothbrush- which has to be the cheapest one available.
Point being: 23 years later, although poor VARIG is gone...I remember it as if it was in my hand now. I bet it would be under $1 each with UA volume!
No offense, but what does this have to do with the topic at hand? While admittedly an interesting question (why not post it as a topic?), we are talking about United’s new livery, not United’s on board amenities...
DL717 wrote:United needs to get past its unmerger. I’ve never seen such a ridiculous display of stupid over a merger, to the point where it’s actually hurting the brand. They’ve held on to this CO livery to pacify the CO crowd at the airline. Get the hell over it. There are still workgroups to this day that don’t get a long. It’s been an effing decade. You’re not going back to being two separate airlines so get it together. Be glad you both didn’t fold and still have jobs. Now rebrand because your livery looks like two pissed off marketing reps couldn’t make a decision over which airline you want to be and go with it, then get your shit together on product. Your product is just as schizophrenic as your livery. . rant.
ual763 wrote:the Tulip will only live on in the form of a possible retro livery.
LAX772LR wrote:ual763 wrote:the Tulip will only live on in the form of a possible retro livery.
...and it only took 9yrs for some to finally figure that out.
CONTACREW wrote:From CALTECH in the fleet/network thread:
“From sources, the Gold Stripe and the Gold On The Globe is staying. Smaller logo on the fuselage.”
So if true looks like gold stripe and gold globe is staying addition of smaller globe on fuselage. Only a few more days till we see the unveiling.
alfa164 wrote:LAX772LR wrote:ual763 wrote:the Tulip will only live on in the form of a possible retro livery.
...and it only took 9yrs for some to finally figure that out.
And some still haven't figured it out.
LAX772LR wrote:Though for the sake of STFUitude, I sorta wish they did just scrap the whole thing and go for something totally fresh, particularly seeing as both DL (2007) and AA (2013) have done just that.
strfyr51 wrote:DL717 wrote:United needs to get past its unmerger. I’ve never seen such a ridiculous display of stupid over a merger, to the point where it’s actually hurting the brand. They’ve held on to this CO livery to pacify the CO crowd at the airline. Get the hell over it. There are still workgroups to this day that don’t get a long. It’s been an effing decade. You’re not going back to being two separate airlines so get it together. Be glad you both didn’t fold and still have jobs. Now rebrand because your livery looks like two pissed off marketing reps couldn’t make a decision over which airline you want to be and go with it, then get your shit together on product. Your product is just as schizophrenic as your livery. . rant.
Unfortunately? You're more right than wrong! Especially since now that very few S-CO's are still at United in senior management positions.. What they wanted to do?
Just didn't work on a global scale. The way we're going is seen with fresh eyes.
DocLightning wrote:My husband just flew UA today and at the gate there is this symbol on the display. Note the lavender, which I believe is UA's "Dusk" color
Not sure what to make of it, but I like it.
DocLightning wrote:My husband just flew UA today and at the gate there is this symbol on the display. Note the lavender, which I believe is UA's "Dusk" color
Not sure what to make of it, but I like it.
N766UA wrote:DocLightning wrote:My husband just flew UA today and at the gate there is this symbol on the display. Note the lavender, which I believe is UA's "Dusk" color
Not sure what to make of it, but I like it.
It’s the global services logo; previously mentioned.
ual763 wrote:N766UA wrote:DocLightning wrote:My husband just flew UA today and at the gate there is this symbol on the display. Note the lavender, which I believe is UA's "Dusk" color
Not sure what to make of it, but I like it.
It’s the global services logo; previously mentioned.
Guess I’ve never really noticed it before.
N766UA wrote:
Been around for a little while
DocLightning wrote:N766UA wrote:
Been around for a little while
Oh, poop. I liked it.
In spite of living in SF, I don't fly UA that much. Although they seem to be finally getting their act together, so that might change.
N766UA wrote:DocLightning wrote:N766UA wrote:
Been around for a little while
Oh, poop. I liked it.
In spite of living in SF, I don't fly UA that much. Although they seem to be finally getting their act together, so that might change.
The irony is that the Global Services "globe" actually pre-dates the merger, so seeing it crop up as a "new logo" candidate is kind of funny.
airzim wrote:strfyr51 wrote:DL717 wrote:United needs to get past its unmerger. I’ve never seen such a ridiculous display of stupid over a merger, to the point where it’s actually hurting the brand. They’ve held on to this CO livery to pacify the CO crowd at the airline. Get the hell over it. There are still workgroups to this day that don’t get a long. It’s been an effing decade. You’re not going back to being two separate airlines so get it together. Be glad you both didn’t fold and still have jobs. Now rebrand because your livery looks like two pissed off marketing reps couldn’t make a decision over which airline you want to be and go with it, then get your shit together on product. Your product is just as schizophrenic as your livery. . rant.
Unfortunately? You're more right than wrong! Especially since now that very few S-CO's are still at United in senior management positions.. What they wanted to do?
Just didn't work on a global scale. The way we're going is seen with fresh eyes.
Let’s be fair, very few sUA too.
Lots of new blood at Willis
LAX772LR wrote:ual763 wrote:the Tulip will only live on in the form of a possible retro livery.
...and it only took 9yrs for some to finally figure that out.
strfyr51 wrote:DL717 wrote:United needs to get past its unmerger. I’ve never seen such a ridiculous display of stupid over a merger, to the point where it’s actually hurting the brand. They’ve held on to this CO livery to pacify the CO crowd at the airline. Get the hell over it. There are still workgroups to this day that don’t get a long. It’s been an effing decade. You’re not going back to being two separate airlines so get it together. Be glad you both didn’t fold and still have jobs. Now rebrand because your livery looks like two pissed off marketing reps couldn’t make a decision over which airline you want to be and go with it, then get your shit together on product. Your product is just as schizophrenic as your livery. . rant.
Unfortunately? You're more right than wrong! Especially since now that very few S-CO's are still at United in senior management positions.. What they wanted to do?
Just didn't work on a global scale. The way we're going is seen with fresh eyes.
lollomz wrote:https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnYHxZtkd0o3TjjKvyBOoxUZTMYGOTt75P-zto8ZBQjrIdWOBsMw
This is a first clue....
qf789 wrote:Nordstar 737MAX8 VQ-BXX and SunExpress 737MAX9 D-ASMB position BFI-PAE for storage
https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/11 ... 04993?s=20
VirginFlyer wrote:lollomz wrote:https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnYHxZtkd0o3TjjKvyBOoxUZTMYGOTt75P-zto8ZBQjrIdWOBsMw
This is a first clue....
No, it’s not.qf789 wrote:Nordstar 737MAX8 VQ-BXX and SunExpress 737MAX9 D-ASMB position BFI-PAE for storage
https://twitter.com/JenSchuld/status/11 ... 04993?s=20
lollomz wrote:https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnYHxZtkd0o3TjjKvyBOoxUZTMYGOTt75P-zto8ZBQjrIdWOBsMw
This is a first clue....
KVH68 wrote:Painting of N37267 (737-800) at Amarillo is complete. The next thing they need to do is a test flight because they removed both tabs on the aileron and both tabs on the elevators. If the test flight is performed in the cover of darkness, then we can assume this aircraft is wearing the new livery. This aircraft was in Amarillo for a warranty paint job. It had paint coming off the vertical stabilizer and the fuselage.
CALTECH wrote:Test flight scheduled for the middle of the night. 'Manual Reversion Test Hop' for the Flight Controls being removed for paint.
lollomz wrote:https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnYHxZtkd0o3TjjKvyBOoxUZTMYGOTt75P-zto8ZBQjrIdWOBsMw
This is a first clue....
N292UX wrote:I'm starting to think that the changes will be somewhat negative and will be worse than the current one.
N292UX wrote:I'm expecting a letdown on this one. For one, I'm starting to believe that the livery may not change that much overall. And second, I'm starting to think that the changes will be somewhat negative and will be worse than the current one.
Fingers crossed that I am wrong, though.
N415XJ wrote:Here is a still from the video showing, presumably, the reference image the painters used.
My guess:
1) Tail stays the same, save for the removal of gold from the globe
2) Billboard titles on the fuselage (based on the Her Art Here and Star Wars schemes we've seen)
3) A blue dreamliner swoop across the whole fleet
max999 wrote:COEWRMSY wrote:Purple (featured on employee tie) and aqua seem to be part of it. The wave appears several times and seems to be part of the branding, so perhaps the aqua wave will replace the gold cheat line (old livery) or gold Boeing wave (787), which would also suggest that aqua might replace gold on the globe. That makes more sense to me than purple on the tail (if the main background color remains blue), since purple and blue would just look dark, especially in low light. I'm curious where the purple will go - perhaps accent under the wave?
Does applying the Boeing wave (aqua or gold) mean United is going to dump all of their Airbuses in the near future? United can't apply the Boeing wave on an Airbus; that would be like Airbus painting their fleet with the Boeing house livery.
N415XJ wrote:My guess:
1) Tail stays the same, save for the removal of gold from the globe
2) Billboard titles on the fuselage (based on the Her Art Here and Star Wars schemes we've seen)
3) A blue dreamliner swoop across the whole fleet
VC10er wrote:I don’t think that revealing a new livery on a 737 is a good idea. While UA one day may have hundreds of them, they have the bragging rights to being a very global airline with some nice large new wide bodies. They don’t really have a “flagship” aircraft like the glory days of a 747, but rolling out a 787 or 77W would be FAR more impressive and further underscore their global reach. It would be tantamount to Lufthansa unveiling their new livery on an A321.
Also, rolling it out on a 737MAX (a grounded airplane for the moment) makes it even a bit more silly.
I find a lot of the guessing of what it will be is also a bit useless because it we know that from a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being a very far out design) I think we all know it will be a 3 to a 5. Therefore a let down to most.
Strategically, I do not think they would want to do much more than modernize a now very familiar and recognizable livery.