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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:10 pm

Carlos01 wrote:
Well, I saw one in Jordan last year, by the airport, waiting for... god knows what:

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That's N300AW, in Jordan, had many great flights on her.
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:21 pm

I am wondering about the fate of MSN 193B-1221.
She was 9L-LDN when I last saw her, back in 2005.
Anybody?
 
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:31 pm

There is an L1011 preserved at the Royal Saudi Air Force museum in Riyadh, it is in great condition along with a Saudi B707-300.

Also a single L1011 is still stored at Tehran THR sporting former Delta colours with Air Universal titles.
 
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:36 pm

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But according to airfleets.net, the Orbital Science L1011 still has the RB-211-22 engines. How can this airplane still fly if the engines are decertified?
The Orbital Science L-1011 -22b engines were converted to -524's many years ago, the Tristar Experience L-1011 still has -22b engines and was ferried from Tuscon to Kansas City with them. Nothing beats the unique sounds that the -22b makes from start up, to taxi, applying power etc!

Did they get a waiver from the FAA to ferry the aircraft?
They were able to obtain a special ferry permit from the FAA.
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:23 am

northstardc4m wrote:
Sadly the decertification of the RB.211-22 engine pretty much ended the viability of the L1011... Even the 524 powered portion of the fleet just isn't viable to support... So this was the certain fate :'(

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What is the difference between the -22 and the -524?
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 1:01 am

SEPilot wrote:
What is the difference between the -22 and the -524?


The -524 was a newer engine with much more power. Externally, the -22B has a metallic nosecone spinner while the -524 has a composite nosecone with a rubber tip.

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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 5:17 am

TriniA340 wrote:
After BWIA retired all theirs, 9Y-TJN was stored at the local military museum here in Trinidad & Tobago, but they neglected to properly take care of//preserve it, resulting in the sad state it is in now. (Search #9ytgn on IG for some pics at the museum).


I have some photos of this plane from my visit in 2010, it was in terrible shape even back then. When I visited in 2017 I wasn't surprised to see it in worse condition.
 
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:03 am

So why was the -22 decertified and the -524 not?
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:20 pm

SEPilot wrote:
So why was the -22 decertified and the -524 not?


The RB.211-524 is also on the 747 and 767, even with updates it's still the same basic engine and still economically viable to support for RR. The RB.211-22 on the other hand was only on the L1011-1 and 100 (and 50 and 150) which were already dropping in numbers.
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:54 pm

There is one at Stansted UK and one in the Saudi air museum Riyadh
 
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:21 pm

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There is one at Stansted UK and one in the Saudi air museum Riyadh


Which one do you think is at Stansted? I can't find any record of one there and there's certainly no sign of one on Google Earth (image dated June 2018).
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:07 pm

There's one at LYS Lyons Airport too quite close to the runway down the side of a building. Had a real surprise when I saw it.

It's an old classic too formerly C-FTNA 1019 (Air Canada'so first Tristar in the day) damaged by hail in 2001 whilst flying Air Transat.

It was part of guided tour (there's a YouTube file and info on Google in French) but that was a few years ago and she's not in such good condition now so don't know what the plans are for her.
 
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:41 pm

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It was definitely Air Canada.

Nonstop between YYZ and YVR in the early 1980s, Air Canada flew both the 747 and L1011. (The DC-8-60 as well, but you'd likely remember that!).

Starting from the winter of 1982/1983, the 767 replaced the DC-8 on trans-cons. So on a wide-body and depending on when in the early 1980s, you could have been on either a 747, L1011 or 767!
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:59 pm

SEPilot wrote:
northstardc4m wrote:
Sadly the decertification of the RB.211-22 engine pretty much ended the viability of the L1011... Even the 524 powered portion of the fleet just isn't viable to support... So this was the certain fate :'(

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What is the difference between the -22 and the -524?

Amazingly the 22B and 524B are very similar. They are the same dimensions and except for that nosecone look the same. They fit in the same mountings on the pylon, and it is possible to fit the wrong one. The components have the same size, with different pt nbrs. (I once fitted a 22B FFR to a 524B by mistake. It fitted but we were short of power!!!) BUT the 22B has 42000 lbf and the 524B had 52000lbf.
We at Gulf Air replaced our 22B on the -100 Tristars for 524B in a 24hr input at LHR and really improved the performance of the aircraft.
Note that the 524G/H is quite different as fitted to the B767 and B744. It has a clapperless fan and is much more electronically controlled, It is really a different beast.
 
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:54 am

Loran wrote:
Is this one in NBO still around? You can see it 0:38 in the background.
https://youtu.be/IP05DjM0vFk


I just transited through NBO 2 weeks ago and there was an L-1011 with a blue tail sitting derelict amongst some other airframes. I was only able to glimpse it as we landed - I was on the opposite side of the aircraft so I couldn't make out any other info or get a picture unfortunately.
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:26 am

dennypayne wrote:
Loran wrote:
Is this one in NBO still around? You can see it 0:38 in the background.
https://youtu.be/IP05DjM0vFk


I just transited through NBO 2 weeks ago and there was an L-1011 with a blue tail sitting derelict amongst some other airframes. I was only able to glimpse it as we landed - I was on the opposite side of the aircraft so I couldn't make out any other info or get a picture unfortunately.

Could it be this one?
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:37 am

Ahhh, that brings back nice memories.
Had the pleasure to fly this beautify aircraft 15 times with Saudia (7), Gulf Air (3), Delta (4) and TAP (1).
Bring them back ;)
 
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:14 am

goosebayguy wrote:
There is one at Stansted UK and one in the Saudi air museum Riyadh


The L1011 that had been at Stansted for many years was broken up last year, it no longer exists!
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:55 pm

My favorite plane. I was lucky enough to fly on the last DL employee flight to VCV. Wish there was one still flying around to catch another ride.
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:58 pm

Cunard wrote:
goosebayguy wrote:
There is one at Stansted UK and one in the Saudi air museum Riyadh


The L1011 that had been at Stansted for many years was broken up last year, it no longer exists!


After few years stored for towing training, it bid farewell last year.
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:59 pm

To thread starter, you may have a read of this old thread...some information are still relevant

TriStar L-1011 Last Passenger Operators & Flights?
viewtopic.php?t=576625
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:54 pm

I would think the Sands Corp would have to be near the top of the list. I know they had the one aircraft lost in the Bangkok floods a few years back, and the other one was put in storage a couple of years later. They were not traditional airline operations, but none the less maintained a Part 125 operation for several years after the airlines ceased using this aircraft.
 
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:30 pm

ILNFlyer wrote:
MEA-707 wrote:
On airlinerlist.com we count 60 extant L1011s. I think that's closer to reality. It includes partially existing frames like the nose at Delta's museum in Atlanta, the wrecks in Thailand, Jordan, Kenya, France, Kansa City, Roswell and other things mentioned above etc.


Very sad. My first flight ever was on an L1011, Eastern Air lines 1979. It was also the only flight I ever had on the type.


Not my first flight but one of my first after a very long break. Air travel was a microscopic part of my life until after I was all-grown and married. Flew once in the early 60's as a very young child and then didn't fly again until my honeymoon on a Wardair 747 in 1984 and the next year on an AC L1011.
 
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:31 pm

juliuswong wrote:
dennypayne wrote:
I just transited through NBO 2 weeks ago and there was an L-1011 with a blue tail sitting derelict amongst some other airframes. I was only able to glimpse it as we landed - I was on the opposite side of the aircraft so I couldn't make out any other info or get a picture unfortunately.

Could it be this one?


Most likely yes. It looked like it had been there a while.
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Re: Surviving L1011 Numbers?

Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:37 pm

dennypayne wrote:
Loran wrote:
Is this one in NBO still around? You can see it 0:38 in the background.
https://youtu.be/IP05DjM0vFk


I just transited through NBO 2 weeks ago and there was an L-1011 with a blue tail sitting derelict amongst some other airframes. I was only able to glimpse it as we landed - I was on the opposite side of the aircraft so I couldn't make out any other info or get a picture unfortunately.


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