I agree this is a training problem in the end. Physical training specifically. If the pilots were strong enough, they could have saved the plane by using the manual trim wheels as they are supposed to do as final backup when all the automation and electrical systems have failed.
It's so much not a training problem
It's a design problem where training is the last chance to prevent it becoming an accident
It's so wrong to focus on training
It's like saying cancer is all about the treatment rather than prevention in the first place
It's incredible how this thread has had so much focus on the pilots and training rather than the far bigger issues which is how we ended up with a plane design like this to start with
We are discussing training issues we now have to solve that need never have existed with a more safely designed plane
That's like saying we should totally focus on eradicating all forms of cancer and Doctors don't need to go Med School to learn how to manage cancer until we have a cure. Screw the people that already have cancer - if we lose a few so what that's wasted resources.
We will eventually be able to build the perfect airplane and be able to take the Pilot out of the equation with AI - which should be better than an Pilot as they should have perfect memory. But until the perfect airplane can be built - training is needed.
Find me a fatal crash in the last 20 years where the pilots did everything right and the plane still crashed.
You are also not accounting for the fact that parts can fail in a perfectly designed aircraft or Metal Fatigue leading to loss of control surfaces, dual flameouts due to bird strikes or all out engine failure, Uncontained Engine failures leading to control surface damage. The list goes on and on.
Certain procedures need to be understood, practiced and memorized as the time to respond to most emergencies is not long enough to go look up the proper procedure in the manuals.
If you are comfortable with the current state of training fine. How confident would you be of being on a flight with 150 Hour Wonder pilots out of the current training system and an uncontained engine failure caused the loss of some control surfaces on one side of the plane? It has almost happened a few times in the past few years.
Due to automation Piloting has gotten a lot simpler in the past 30 years. They should have the time to practice unusual situations for when things happen - for even in a perfectly designed airplane parts can fail.
Yes - Boeing's botched design were responsible for these terrible tragedies. But you cannot blame them 100% and ignore the other factors.
Would you let the FAA off the hook or the other Safety agencies worldwide who rubber stamped the FAA's certification of the MAX?
There are always multiple factors to crashes and shame on us if we don't look at all of them and do what we can to improve every part.
Is it boring not just bashing on Boeing 100% - yes I can see that as People are always looking for that one thing to pin it on.
Airplane crashes however a lot more complicated.